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Mathijs : (23 May 2013 - 07:14 AM) And Irene, yes, indeed, but the reason they wish to benefit from the 'pro's of their belief' is because they are afraid to see that there might not be anything otherwise, and they would have to deal with finality.
MattTheLegoman : (23 May 2013 - 07:34 AM) In how we create, we are more than simply a need to survive. You use language as well as I do. What should I fear? That all things must pass away. I am waiting for the answer in hope. Nihilists force hope out of them. I have said all I can, I am better at helping than debating, so I wonder why you have walled yourself in. And of course I am crazy. Is it not that best people are? ;p
{IP}Pasidon : (23 May 2013 - 08:29 AM) Hurry up and start calling each-other mean names...
MattTheLegoman : (23 May 2013 - 09:44 AM) Well I did call him a nihilist, that is pretty mean. ;p But I guess we are worlds apart. :p
{IP}Pasidon : (23 May 2013 - 10:24 AM) Yes... yes.... now insult his unborn children and white friends...
Radspakr : (23 May 2013 - 12:21 PM) Christianity always creep me out, having ghost men inside you without knowing, zombie carpenter Shepard kings it's all very bizarre
The Best Guest : (23 May 2013 - 01:01 PM) By the way many christians believe non-christians can go to heaven, more recently the pope http://www.huffingto..._n_3320757.html
Radspakr : (23 May 2013 - 01:14 PM) I'd hope not Heaven sounds awful.
Mathijs : (23 May 2013 - 03:26 PM) Yeah, see, this is why I miss the old debates. It's hard to debate someone who hides his claims behind vague platitudes. As to the mean name you called me... going by Ivan Toergenjev's protagonist Basarov, a nihilist is "a man who does not bow before any authority whatever, who does not accept a single principle on faith"... doesn't sound too bad to me. Better than claiming to know the inner workings of the universe based on 0 evidence other than the fickle, deceptive workings of the brain.
Radspakr : (23 May 2013 - 03:54 PM) should we move this to an actual topic? shoutbox isn't the best place for a ideological debate which in Revora terms means mentioning your ideology.
Irenė Hawnetyne : (23 May 2013 - 04:23 PM) I'm with Mathijs except for finality, in a slight sense aside from my defiance. Also, not to be rude but quite honestly accurate, TBG, but the Pope is a liar, his office is lies, and his faith is, once again, lies. Hypocrisy. Hypocrisy everywhere. I mean, this is pretty damn self-explanatory: http://goo.gl/l3wnY. And Rad, why not?
Radspakr : (23 May 2013 - 05:00 PM) Catholics and the Vatican especially don't represent all Christians the Vatican doesn't even really represent the views of all Catholics.
Radspakr : (23 May 2013 - 05:03 PM) I'm creating a new topic but this discussion doesn't really seem to have a focus. Is it just the usual atheism vs christianity?
Radspakr : (23 May 2013 - 05:07 PM) http://forums.revora...ligious-debate/
Mathijs : (23 May 2013 - 05:14 PM) Nah. More of a reason vs. faith thing for me.
Radspakr : (23 May 2013 - 05:17 PM) well how about we pick a specific element of the debate like is Morality a godsend?
Mathijs : (23 May 2013 - 05:26 PM) Yeesh. Sure, but I (hopefully) doubt there are many who agree to that. But it's a fun thing to debate.
duke_Qa : (23 May 2013 - 10:19 PM) I put a curse on Americans and their aged imperial standard of 9/16 and 3/4 inches, wasted a perfectly good evening trying to repair a Mustang 2040 with no replacement parts in such arcane sizes :(
Graion Dilach : (23 May 2013 - 10:30 PM) Finally moved oput the religios wall'o'shouts!
Graion Dilach : (23 May 2013 - 10:31 PM) OK, where's the fun which disappeared from this box?

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