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[Radspakr Wolfbane]

A topic to post various stills and images from the Hobbit Trilogy.
This way it can act as a handy resource for those looking for inspiration.

(Will add stuff later and index)

Heirsofdurin has a gallery.
http://thorinoakensh...gallery/#scenes

Running Lip has one also.
http://runninglip.co...pected-journey/

[Bashkuga]

A northern Warg and a southern Warg:

[attachment=31734:Northern Warg.jpg][attachment=31735:Southern Warg.jpg]

I think they did a great job, they are two different kinds of races, but still they share some kind of similarity.

[Lauri]

Looks like a cross of a bat and a wolf, but it's still a warg. I like it.

[njm1983]

Does seem to have bat-like features.

[Mathijs]

Is it me or does the CGI on the warg from LotR seem far superior, even though it's ten years older?

[Lauri]

That, I believe, applies to all CGI in The Hobbit.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

It could also be the difference in video quality it's easier to get away with CGI when the image isn't as good but the visual quality of the Hobbit was really good.

[Bashkuga]

Yeah it's probably that, I watched the movie online but it's not super high quality yet, though still a bit high quality .

[njm1983]

Gonna agree with rad as well. I dont think the cgi is holding well with the lotr, i have the dvds and on my hd tv the cgi looks dated. The mumakil scene with frodo and sam in ithilien. Portions of the cave troll in moria, legolas killing the mumak, the crumbling of the black gate and towers combined with orcs scattering and falling into the chasm.

[MattTheLegoman]

It seems like WETA's strongest point is their real models and the old Bigatures. They did not make Bigatures for The Hobbit. :(

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

You can also really tell the CGI/Matte paintings with the Bluray movies when you take a screenshot.
One scene in particular is the scene where look out over Caras Galadhon in Fellowship when you pause it the shot looks very obviously like a green screen matte painting.
But even with the tech available it's never going to be perfect.

[njm1983]

No bigatures! Thats gonna make places really hard to replicate. Poo!

[Bashkuga]

Next comparison, this time between a Hill Troll and a Cave Troll:

[attachment=31743:Hill Troll.jpg][attachment=31744:Cave Troll.jpg]

The Hill Troll has a totally different nose, more humanoid-like, while the Cave Troll has a flat nose. Both their noses are between their eyes. Also the ears of the Cave Troll lay lower than the ones from a Hill Troll. The most noticable difference is ofcourse the skin-color, the Hill Troll have a light-brownish color, while the Cave Troll has a stone-grey color. The Hill Troll also has a short beard.

[njm1983]

Good notations.... In the film Thorin refers to them as mountain trolls though. lol.

Its safe to assume he was just generalizing.

Hill Troll

Cave Troll

Mountain Troll


Olog Hai?

[Bashkuga]

Yeah, the last one is probably an Ologh-hai, so are the ones who attacked the gates at Minas Tirith.

Your pics remind me on another major difference I forgot, a Cave Troll has three fingers, while a Hill/Mountain Troll has four .

[njm1983]

You mean these guys:



Another difference is the feet. the Hills trolls have more human-like feet

Edited by njm1983, 15 January 2013 - 03:17 AM.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

Although from what I remember Bill, Bert and Tom are supposed to be Stone Trolls which are the most intelligent behind Olog Hai.
Hill Troll is supposedly either the same as a Mountain Troll or Olog Hai because in the books Pippin kills one (which always bugged me that they left that out of the movies it was supposed to even out Merry's deed.

[Bashkuga]

Searched wiki for it, and it appears a Hill Troll is closely related to Cave Trolls and Mountain Trolls: http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Hill-troll

[Bofur]

Olog-Hai are any kind of troll- doesn't their name mean "Troll-Folk"?

Edited by Bofur01, 15 January 2013 - 05:18 PM.

[njm1983]

From what ive gathered olog-hai are an improved troll capable of withstanding the sun.

good reference:
http://thainsbook.ne...res.html#Trolls

Edited by njm1983, 15 January 2013 - 05:34 PM.