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#41 Aircraftkiller

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:34 PM

You'll eventually come to realize that I don't care about what you think if I don't care about you, so however many supporters you can conjure up means very little to me. I know who I am and that's all I need to get through life unlike those who require constant validation from others to wake up in the morning.

I've never broken my forum rules. I make sure to word them so that there's no way that I would violate them. I ban people that show no remorse for their actions, only after they've been given many chances to stop what it is that they were doing.

Furthermore, you're not going to get me to stop posting what I think of your work. If I see it on the Den and I see that it's not like RA, I will respond and make sure you hear about it. If you don't like that, ignore what I write.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:40 PM

If you don't care about what we think about you, then why do you insist on posting your opinion, even if no one cares what YOU think of US either?

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:46 PM

That's a reasoning loop, you shouldn't have asked that question because you just said you don't care, so you wouldn't have had to ask it anyway.

I never said I didn't care about you. I said I care very little for you earlier; the post above your own was "you" as in you in general, not targeting anyone in particular.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:52 PM

Aircraftkiller.

It's obvious to pretty much everyone that you intented to start a fight the minute you posted your first comment on CNCDEN. Let's take a look at it, shall we?

'The SAM Site had a tripod that it sat on. Not a "quadpod", it was three legs that propped up the launcher.'

This was a totally acceptable statement. Constructive, yes, no harm done. However, you decided to add:

'Even the in-game sprite shows this. You know why? Because the 3D models used in the movies were used to make the sprites.'

This sort of says, 'Hey, you're wrong and I'll prove it' in a rather cocky way. This isn't very acceptable. There was absolutely no point in you posting that statement; it has been no benefit to anyone, not even you; you've wasted your own time typing it.

Now, if you had have left it at the first paragraph, I'm sure Immo would have considered what you had to say, and fixed the problem, even, for the mod release.

But you had to go and fuck it up. Why? You WANT the attention, you need to annoy people, there's something missing in your life that obviously isn't filling that gap.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:54 PM

I never said I didn't care about you. I said I care very little for you earlier; the post above your own was "you" as in you in general, not targeting anyone in particular.

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I never said you didn't care about us, I said you don't care about what we think of you. And stop trying to evade the point at hand by pointing out semantic mistakes. The point at hand here is that we have had enough of your flame-provoking posts in the CnCDen comments. And in general, we have had enough of the double standards you often seem to have. Set rules, then break them yourself. You can say what you like, but that is what happens. I've seen plenty of evidence of that in the forums I looked through.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:55 PM

The problem is rather then point out problems and say how you think they should be rectified you instantly flame the work as being retarded. You don't point out the features which are good and what bits you think could be imporved upon you brush the whole thing off as crap because it isn't 100% true to red alert.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:01 PM

To add on to that: The problem is also that you haven't actually helped us, ever. What you do is not pointing out mistakes like you say it is. You say it in an attempt to ridicule and degrade our work, or so it seems to most of the people I directed to the CnCDen comment threads. I'd be more inclined to listen to your comments with an open mind if you also provided positive comments. But I've yet to encounter any. Sure you have the right to say we're not making it look like Red Alert. But here's the big news:

We KNOW you think our work doesn't look like Red Alert! If you keep saying it and even if you insist that it's not meant as an insult, the fact that you keep repeating yourself is just as much an insult to our state of mind. We are very well capable of remembering that you don't like the way we recreate Red Alert. But there's no need to post that again everytime we're in CnCDen's news.

Edited by ImmoMan, 12 April 2005 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:04 PM

Aircraftkiller.

It's obvious to pretty much everyone that you intented to start a fight the minute you posted your first comment on CNCDEN.  Let's take a look at it, shall we?

'The SAM Site had a tripod that it sat on. Not a "quadpod", it was three legs that propped up the launcher.'

This was a totally acceptable statement.  Constructive, yes, no harm done.  However, you decided to add:

'Even the in-game sprite shows this. You know why? Because the 3D models used in the movies were used to make the sprites.'

This sort of says, 'Hey, you're wrong and I'll prove it' in a rather cocky way.  This isn't very acceptable.  There was absolutely no point in you posting that statement; it has been no benefit to anyone, not even you; you've wasted your own time typing it.

Now, if you had have left it at the first paragraph, I'm sure Immo would have considered what you had to say, and fixed the problem, even, for the mod release.

But you had to go and fuck it up.  Why?  You WANT the attention, you need to annoy people, there's something missing in your life that obviously isn't filling that gap.

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Are you certain that I intended to start a fight? I don't like to bullshit people with smiley graemlins and tell them nice things to get stuff out of them. I just tell you what I think, or know. And I know for a fact that the artwork in-game was done by 3D Studio Max.

Don't blame me for the lack of self-control that others have. I could say you're trying to pick an Internet fight with me because of what you wrote, but should I haul out the insult box and start picking apart what you wrote because there's a possibility that you were actually trying to do so? I know you weren't, so I don't have a reason to...

How others percieve my writing is their problem, not mine. Do not blame their actions upon me because they cannot control themselves. You (again, in general) are responsible for yourself, and no one makes you respond to anything, or see something in a certain way. You're more than able to think what you want and do what you want, so saying their reactions are somehow my fault is misleading at best.

There is nothing missing in my life. If I want to pick a fight for amusement, I'll do it in a simpler way so that they will be provoked into responding in a humorous manner... I'm not going to do it by supporting evidence in the first response.

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We KNOW you think our work doesn't look like Red Alert! If you keep saying it and even if you insist that it's not meant as an insult, the fact that you keep repeating yourself is just as much an insult to our state of mind. We are very well capable of remembering that you don't like the way we recreate Red Alert. But there's no need to post that again everytime we're in CnCDen's news.


As I said, you can ignore it... Or you can try a different approach and actually use the comments given to improve your work. I get lots of people that bash my work on a daily basis, and lots that don't... Everyone sees things differently and that's a given. But the problem here is that there's no way you can look at the source material for Red Alert and tell me that you're actually making it based on RA. The only resemblance it has to it so far are the names for buildings and units, and possibly the gameplay.

Seems odd to me that you let my opinions bother you so much. You have those two options... I'm not going to compromise with you on the comment parts, because I refuse to restrict my ability to speak my mind because someone might be offended.

Edited by Aircraftkiller, 12 April 2005 - 08:13 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:23 PM

As I said, you can ignore it... Or you can try a different approach and actually use the comments given to improve your work. I get lots of people that bash my work on a daily basis, and lots that don't... Everyone sees things differently and that's a given. But the problem here is that there's no way you can look at the source material for Red Alert and tell me that you're actually making it based on RA. The only resemblance it has to it so far are the names for buildings and units, and possibly the gameplay.

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How about you using the comments people make on your work to improve it then? Any time anyone makes a suggestion about your work you seem to manage to find a way to brush that off as retarded, or coming from someone who knows nothing about what they are talking about. Or, is this another case of do as I say, not as I do? I'd find you some examples, but it's so easy, anyone should be able to do a bit of research like I did.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:23 PM

Are you certain that I intended to start a fight? I don't like to bullshit people with smiley graemlins and tell them nice things to get stuff out of them. I just tell you what I think, or know. And I know for a fact that the artwork in-game was done by 3D Studio Max.

Don't blame me for the lack of self-control that others have. I could say you're trying to pick an Internet fight with me because of what you wrote, but should I haul out the insult box and start picking apart what you wrote because there's a possibility that you were actually trying to do so? I know you weren't, so I don't have a reason to...

How others percieve my writing is their problem, not mine. Do not blame their actions upon me because they cannot control themselves. You (again, in general) are responsible for yourself, and no one makes you respond to anything, or see something in a certain way. You're more than able to think what you want and do what you want, so saying their reactions are somehow my fault is misleading at best.

There is nothing missing in my life. If I want to pick a fight for amusement, I'll do it in a simpler way so that they will be provoked into responding in a humorous manner... I'm not going to do it by supporting evidence in the first response.

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You don't need to bullshit people. But being cold towards them isn't going to get you anywhere. A little courtesy here and there never hurt anyone.

I think you're the one with the lack of self control my friend.... no matter where I look, all I can see is you being harsh towards other's work. For example, you registered on CGEN and done nothing but flame Seaman and Commando. Nothing constructive in there, you did it for your own entertainment. Either that, or you have too much time on your hands.

It IS your fault how others perceive your writing. I mean, are you really ignorant enough to believe that mocking people's hard work isn't going to get you some sort of negative feedback? You could have easily said your opinion, commented on the GOOD features as well as the bad, then left. But no... you had to provoke hundreds of others into flaming you. You know damn well how people are going to react, you've been in this community damn-long enough.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:31 PM

Indeed it is your fault. There's things called slander and libel, ACK. People can be sued for what they say about others. I've seen it happen. It is your responsibility alone to ensure that the chances of someone interpreting your comments as malicious are as slim as possible. If you're not even capable of making sure we understand what you're trying to say to us, then why even say it?

Edited by ImmoMan, 12 April 2005 - 08:31 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:32 PM

You don't look very hard then, nor do you ever look for the underlying reasons why I do particular things.

SeaMan is a whining liar, who squanders things. I got sick of him after he would tell me one thing and do another every day. So I decided there was no reason to hold back on his "work" that still looks bad to this day. Contrary to what you think, I type really fast and this only takes me a few moments to do at a time. So I'm not wasting more than a few seconds per reply.

Sorry dude, no, it's not my fault if someone sees my writing as anything but a collection of symbols as with anyone else's writing. You apply a meaning to it, and associate it with something... I don't. I just put it there. You're the one who has to react and respond.

I find it amusing when people act like that, so if they want to ignore it they can remove a small source of entertainment online.

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ROFL>.. you're comparing Internet arguments to slander and libel?

Edited by Aircraftkiller, 12 April 2005 - 08:34 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:37 PM

Sorry dude, no, it's not my fault if someone sees my writing as anything but a collection of symbols as with anyone else's writing. You apply a meaning to it, and associate it with something... I don't. I just put it there. You're the one who has to react and respond.

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So, why do you bother writing it then? If it's just a collection of symbols, why does it matter? If most people "misinterpret" what you say, maybe you are phrasing it poorly? Langauge can be formed in such a way that it is obviously intended to be offensive, or obviously intended to be gentle criticism. Since you don't bother acknowledging that others are capable of doing something worth praise, all your statements are interpreted as flames. The only time I've ever seen you say anything good about any work is when it is yours, or your teams.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:48 PM

You're building a straw man, the subject isn't about why I write what I do; it's about your reactions to it and why you think I should be tailoring my responses to fit your emotional status at the time.

This is getting redundant now. Unless someone has something new to offer by way of an argument, I'm going to focus on something else.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:52 PM

You're missing the point here. We'd like you to think more about what you post, so we can avoid future conflicts. All we're doing now is blaming each other. But fact proves that you're the cause of these flame wars, since the threads are fine if you don't post in them. So if you could either change the tone of your posts, or not post at all, then everyone will be happy since there is probably no more flaming.

Edited by ImmoMan, 12 April 2005 - 08:53 PM.


#56 Aircraftkiller

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:53 PM

That's why this thread was full of hate and insults before I came, right? Take some personal responsibility and stop blaming your actions on me.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:54 PM

You're building a straw man, the subject isn't about why I write what I do; it's about your reactions to it and why you think I should be tailoring my responses to fit your emotional status at the time.

This is getting redundant now. Unless someone has something new to offer by way of an argument, I'm going to focus on something else.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 08:55 PM

Take some personal responsibility and stop blaming your actions on me.

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We wouldn't be arguing if you hadn't annoyed us in the first place. So take some personal responsibility and stop blaming your actions on me.

Edited by ImmoMan, 12 April 2005 - 08:56 PM.


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Posted 12 April 2005 - 09:03 PM

Look ACK, im sure you are i nice guy, otherwise Lion wouldn't like you, but what makes you reply in such a negative fashion? Are you jealous of this mod? generally hate others? What??

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 09:04 PM

...Yeah okay. While you may have earned some of my respect for not editing out everything I wrote to look like I can't argue worth a damn; you're still incapable of discussing things without resorting to circular logic.

I'm out of this thread, served its purpose.




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