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I really liked dojob's idea of upgrading orcs. My slightly varied idea would be:
-Orcs (Level One)
-Orc Archers (Level One)
-Orc Pikemen (Level Two)
-Upgrade to Morgul - change to Morgul orc skin, slight boost is stats, maybe cost 1000 - 2000 (Level Two)
-Upgrade to "Black Orcs" - better name? changes to Black orc skin, upgrades stats a bit more, enables forged blades and heavy armour to be purchased (Level Three) 2000 - 3000
-Morannon Orcs (Level One) - Stronger armor and health than Morgul orcs but not much more powerful, with chance of knockback
-Orc Trackers (Level One) - fast archers
-Hero Horde if we are leaving them in (Level Three)
I realise there is a bit of a hole in the Orc Tent but I'm running out of ideas for orcs
For the hero horde I would make them Captains of Mordor:
This is where I would put snaga-like units, rather than having them as heros.
They would each have one power, and be a very strong orc that can kill units easily, but that struggles against heros
You reseave a random mini hero, to a max of 3. Obviously numbers are limited by which you already have
1 Shagrat - the corruption power or something similar (he came as close to being smart as an orc can), strong attack and armour but low health
2 Gorbag - some attack booster, a tank with high armour and health but not as good as the others at attack
3 Grishnak - summon 2 hordes of orcs, similar to Shagrat but maybe with more health and less armour, or faster
The one problem with this is they would be more helpful early game than late, which is when hero hordes are availible. Of course, these also might make good inn heros if hero hordes are removed or if others are in favour of a strong orc hero horde and keeping snaga.
Anyways thats my idea. Rebuttal time
You might say that the ring has not had many owners, but I think that Saruman would have gone the wrong way about taking it from any Uruk hai and just made them want to give it up less. He would demand it, and maybe then realise his mistake, but I don't think even Saruman's powers of persuation could convince him to give up the ring. It took a relationship of complete and utter trust for Bilbo to give up the ring, and no orc, not even the uruk hai, had a deeper loyalty than "I'll serve him for as long as he's treating me better than I could get elsewhere."
Granted, the uruk hai would have been promtly destroyed and Saruman would end up with the ring anyways, but I agree with mike in that I don't think any creature of the dark would give up the ring willingly.
four-tonne, ten-metres long beastie of an ox, with a ten-foot hornspread and a three-inch thick hide, as well as a mind to rival the Mereas
Is quite an accomplishment.
I think a dragon emperor would work very well for Rhun, though I would make him completely new rather than a blue wizard (Then the MOTE heroes would be balanced - Mumak Chief/Captain, Khamul/Ji Indur, Romestamo/Morinehtar, Black Serpent/Dragon Emperor, maybe a neutral corsair- Sulayhr or otherwise). Perhaps a slight twist to the storyline could be one of the sons of the old Emperor helped by Morinehtar to stage the dragon episode and "slay" it, in return he allied himself with mordor and gave Morinehtar a advisitory role (of course then Talara would be a desendant). It would explain why the sorcerors belong to rhun rather than harad as Morinehtar would have the power to make it happen. Seeing as he would then not be a wizard, perhaps he would be a damage/summoner hero as the Captain has support powers, Morinehtar covers magic/illusions, and Khamul is a hero/unit killer.
Just my opinion though. Great job with Talara!
After pausing 50 times to atcually look at what's going on in the trailer, I think you fight at Weathertop with mumakil, have a balrog that's only about twice the height of a man, catapults and lots of wildmen at Helm's Deep, and there is the grond in pelenor fields. At least the orcs look a little better.
Well, The weathertop thing is wierd but there were many more wildmen in saruman's armies than the movies show (battering ram was dunlandish) and the size of the balrog is ALOT smaller in the books. Originally when he wrote the chapter it was said to be of man-height, which changed to it was man height but felt bigger than it was, and finally in the published version it is of man-shape but greater. Besides which, the balrog is at least 5 times the size of the men its fighting. What's wrong with grond at pelennor? However, I agree with the fact that its probably going to have some wierd stuff. Mages? And the evil campaign will have to be rather non-linear, as it was never written by Tolkien. Doesn't seem that much worse than alot of things in the movies/BFME/LOTRO/etc games though. I'm looking forward to playing it.
radagast gets his eagle summon power recharged when switching from foot to eagle and I think he gets full heal
radagast can have the ring on his eagle and has glitchy flight patterns when he does
rohan axriders are not affected by summon rohirrim
Elrond and Celeborn/Galadrial hate each other, you know... And Elrond divorced Celebrian and made her die of a broken heart (not literally speaking for either one).
I'm pretty sure youve got your lore mixed up as Galadriel and Elrond certainly dont hate each other . And Celebrian didnt even die. She was captured and poisoned by orcs, and elladan and Elohir rescued her from them. Elrond healed her, but Middle earth had lost all beauty to her and so she traveled over the sea. (EDIT: this is in appendix B: tale of years, year 2509 of the third age)
There are other mirrors around, and I was tempted not to post with your demands, but in case anyone else is interested here is another place to download:
Why is it on filefront? I'm looking for more places for download for other options for installers and more, but the main reason is I did not want to put a strain on revora's bandwidth. With more than 1000 a week downloads when it came out at the file size I didn't want to touch the generousity of revora/t3a for hosting me.
I'm looking for more options for mirrors, but lordoftherings.filefront.net is what I went for in 1.05.06. It will still be available there for 1.06, but also elsewhere for those that don't care for filefront.
This was a responce to another person with the same problem I believe
Edit: Although in the last battle legend, I believe Turin returns to be the one to kill Morgoth, as he was the one who suffered the most from him, so obviously at least Iluvutar knows where they go and can bring them back
Elves are a different matter. Their gift as the the firstborn is that they cannot die in the conventional means. Of course their body can die in war or grief or diease, but their spirits are gathered in the halls of Mandos in Valinor. They cannot leave the world. They, unlike the Maiar, have no power to shapeshift/form a new body, and can be reimbodied only if the Valar do it for them. This is what would have happened to Glorfindel. A powerful elven lord innocent of the Kinslaying was sent back to aid the elves remaining in Middle Earth. I would suspect Glorfindel would be one of few like that. Certainly none of the royal line of the Noldor were innocent of the Kinslaying, and I doubt other heros of the first age, such as Ecthelion, were either.
Only men have the gift of death, the only race to be able to be released from the circles of the world, and elves envy them for that freedom, though the men themselves view it as more of a curse
Also, it cant effect everyone because monsters/siege cant get banner carriers. But I guess thats probably what you meant.
Generally, if this is impletemented, I just want there to be a reasonable counter for spam factions (like drummer trolls cancel out its affects for Mordor and something along those lines for goblins). Even for Isengard this is a big disadvantage, but at least then by the time your oppenent gets the upgrade most of your troops are upgraded and survive to level 2 or you use banner carriers to keep them alive.
Perhaps a few other factions should get unique upgrades to counterbalance all these upgrades (gondor and arnor building upgrades, dwarves and isengard unit upgrades, mordor and goblins and dwarves siege/monsters, rohan horses. But not all the factions should have acsess to them)
Edit: I think there was talk about adding the Black Serpent Chief, in which case the heros would be:
Harad: Corsair-Mumak-Ji Indur-Black Serpent Chief-Blue Wizard
Rhun: Corsair-Captain-(wain or assasin heros were discussed)-Khamul-Blue Wizard
Does anyone from the 'inner circle' (by which i mean yoda/shikari/robnkarla) know for sure whats planned?