Replying to Vengeance-class Star Destroyer
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Tropical Bob
Posted 05 August 2008 - 01:11 AM
The Empire was not completely logical, but was also not illogical. The Empire was, at least, rather cost effective (For the most part...).
Kaleb Graff
Posted 03 August 2008 - 08:13 PM
Phoenix Rising
Posted 03 August 2008 - 03:08 AM
Hence the overuse of the incredibly descriptive terms "star destroyer" and "super star destroyer" in the EU.And I think that to call it an Executor-class is wielding a large amount of ignorance around with no control. Any ship that's in any large way/s different from another design does not go by the same class. You might as well call all the Sovereigns and Eclipses Executor-class, because, "well they're big, triangular-ish, and have lotsa guns." And hey, the Imperial-class line is triangular! Let's call it an Executor-class too!
The Vengeance in Saga SotG is almost an afterthought in the "SSD" article (not the Executor-class article). They didn't even bother to come up with a unique stat block for it, they just basically said use the Executor stats if you want to play a DF2:JK campaign.
Assume for a moment that it is a heavy modification. Why would they bother? It gains nothing statistically and would probably take just as long to complete as building from scratch. It just doesn't add up.
keraunos
Posted 03 August 2008 - 02:46 AM
El Danny
Posted 03 August 2008 - 12:09 AM
Does thst book class as a acurate sorce? Its the sorce for the armament acording to wookiepedia.
anakinskysolo
Posted 02 August 2008 - 05:44 PM
Tropical Bob
Posted 02 August 2008 - 06:52 AM
And I think that to call it an Executor-class is wielding a large amount of ignorance around with no control. Any ship that's in any large way/s different from another design does not go by the same class. You might as well call all the Sovereigns and Eclipses Executor-class, because, "well they're big, triangular-ish, and have lotsa guns." And hey, the Imperial-class line is triangular! Let's call it an Executor-class too!
This is exactly why no one wants to mod it. It appeared once or twice, and therefore are no ACCURATE stats for it.
anakinskysolo
Posted 02 August 2008 - 02:31 AM
El Danny
Posted 01 August 2008 - 10:54 PM
I believe there are not accurate stats on the Vengeance.
No one has accurate stats on the Vengeance (Dare we call it the Vengeance-class?). The most anyone's ever dragged up on it is that it's basically a modified Executor-class that's faster, and with similar armaments. Based on a picture I've seen of it, it looks around the same size as the Executor-class, but doesn't have the same surface area, so it would have less weapons. It looks to me like someone valued speed over strength in their really really really big ship for some reason (Like it goes very fast anyway, being that big), so they stripped away armament and defense, and maybe upgraded the engines.
So this could go to the PR Enhanced Ship Pack project, if they can find a model. I'd say for weapons, give it around 60-70% of the Executor-class's weapons, 50% of its fighters, 60-75% hull/shield rating, and add somewhere around 50-75% speed.
http://starwars.wiki...Star_Destroyer)
I shouldn't have to post this twice, its pretty much a Executor with a diffrent hull design.
Kaleb Graff
Posted 01 August 2008 - 05:12 PM
Theoretically, based on the latest Starships of the Galaxy, it's an Executor, but with a different design.No one has accurate stats on the Vengeance (Dare we call it the Vengeance-class?). The most anyone's ever dragged up on it is that it's basically a modified Executor-class that's faster, and with similar armaments. Based on a picture I've seen of it, it looks around the same size as the Executor-class, but doesn't have the same surface area, so it would have less weapons. It looks to me like someone valued speed over strength in their really really really big ship for some reason (Like it goes very fast anyway, being that big), so they stripped away armament and defense, and maybe upgraded the engines.
So this could go to the PR Enhanced Ship Pack project, if they can find a model. I'd say for weapons, give it around 60-70% of the Executor-class's weapons, 50% of its fighters, 60-75% hull/shield rating, and add somewhere around 50-75% speed.