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#1 Nolis

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 03:23 PM

First of all it's for ROTWK.Some of you might have seen the other post of the mod, now that we have finished with the techtrees of both factions I'll show them to you:

HEAVEN


Ring Hero: Metatron

Heroes:
Gabriel
Michael
Uriel
Angel of Destiny
Angel of Purity

Units:
Heaven Guard (Basic Swordsmen)
Semi-Angels (Elite Swordsmen)
Holy Riders (Basic Horsemen)
White Riders (Elite Horsemen)
White Mages (Basic Ranged using magic)
WhiteLighters (Elite Ranged using magic)

Special Units:
Angels (flying)
Archangels

Siege Units:
Gryphons

Ships:
Heaven Transport
White Battleship
Light ray ship (Long ranged)

Buildings:
Fortress
Church (money)
Heaven Barracks
Holy Stables
Gates to Paradise (Special Units)
Divine Weaponry (upgrades & siege)
Blessed Well (healing)
Angel Statue
Arrow Tower
Wall hub

Upgrades:
Holy Blades
Heaven Armour
White Magic
Heaven Banner

Powers:

5: Holy Healing
5: Heaven's Power (powers up allies)
5: Long Sight (Reveals Hidden areas)
10: Holy field (powers up allies in an area)
10: Purification (Gain control of a lair)
10: Holy Blesses (More money)
10: Summon Heaven units (1 horde White mages, 1 h. Heaven Guards, 1 h. Holy riders)
15: Heaven Power (White beams fall from Heaven)
15: Light (50%Speed)
15: Spirit of Light (Passive: Speeds up training of units)
25: Divine Argonar (Summons a holy creature)
25: Holy (Like FFXII)



HELL

Ring Hero: Lucifer

Heroes:
White death
Archlich Lord
Daemon Lord
Death Rider
War Rider
Famine Rider
Pestilence Rider

Units:
Zombie horde(low atk High def)
skeleton horde(high atk low def)
Half-demon Swordsmen (elite)
Demon Horde
Black Mages(basic ranged)
Lich horde (Elite ranged)
Skeleton Riders(basic)
Riders of Death(elite)
Gargoyle Horde(flying)

Special Units:
Shadow Demons (fast, stealthed while moving)
Archlich horde
Soldiers of Doom

Siege Units:
Siege Dragons

BUILDINGS:
Fortress
Hell Gate (special units)
Dead trees (money)
Graveyard (barracks)
Mages' Cemetery
Magic tower (arrow tower)
Evil workshop (Upgrades)
Wall hub
Unholy water (heal),
Gargoyle statue.

UPGRADES:
Flaming blades
Death Armor
Hell banner
Black Magic.

Powers:
5: Lucifer’s Call
5: Hell Sight
5: (Devil’s heal)
10: Hell Ground
10: Hell arrows
10: Summon Demons
10: Hell Speed
15: Darkness
15: Underground tunnel
15: Shadow Ball Barrage
25: Hellfire
25: Summon Cursed souls

Other features:
Grim Reaper as neutral unit (will be recruited by a neutral building)
New Campaign
Units will cost less cp to make bigger armies
New team colours
The rest of the factions are gonna change.

Team so far:

Mod Leader/Mapper/Coder: Nolis
Mod Leader/Mapper: Deathbringer
Mapper:{IP}Lascar
2d Artist: Taralom
Modeller: Ed of the 3rd Kind
Modeller/skinner: Guess Who

Need:
Any help we can find...

Edited by Nolis, 19 November 2007 - 08:36 AM.

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#2 Taralom

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 03:27 PM

Nolis,
i'm slowly learning how to code. And i'm starting to understand INI coding. I think i can do some stuff but not all yet.

New factions = new to me :p
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#3 Nolis

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 03:31 PM

i'm slowly learning how to code. And i'm starting to understand INI coding. I think i can do some stuff but not all yet.


I have learned lots of stuff but I still need a lot more!
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#4 Deathbringer

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 03:50 PM

Hi everyone, hope you like the ideas.I had thought most of them but Nolis change a looooooooot of things to better.I hope.

Edited by Deathbringer, 08 October 2007 - 05:32 PM.


#5 Grizzlez

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 04:23 PM

have you started it yet? i havent seen any ingame or real progress yet
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#6 Deathbringer

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 04:29 PM

We just started.The fact that we have nothing to show is because there are no modelers and skinners yet.If anyone wants to join for any reason, he can.You can consider it has started.

Edited by Deathbringer, 08 October 2007 - 05:33 PM.


#7 Guess Who

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:29 AM

We just started.The fact that we have nothing to show is because there are no modelers and skinners yet.If anyone wants to join for any reason, he can.

What about if he was a she. :p
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#8 Deathbringer

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:17 AM

Yeah.Anything else?

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:43 AM

Maybe try to learn modelling and skinning(few people know).
So you would be lucky to get a modeller and skinner.
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#10 Deathbringer

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 11:19 AM

I have tried for modelling but i didnot have any success.For skinning i do not have a program that i know how to use it.

#11 Nolis

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 12:09 PM

You can always learn something new...
I tried modelling but I had some problems and now I am focused on mapping and coding...

Edited by Nolis, 09 October 2007 - 12:10 PM.

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#12 Deathbringer

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:34 PM

Since noone joins we decided to make some changes on the existed fanctions.(I hate that, it is usual, but if this is what it takes to make the mod more famous, ok)

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:50 PM

What? You mean Elves/Mordor/Isengard etc? If so, then you really need to read the news posts and threads about new mods etc because you are completely missing the point.

Why is it that because no one has joined, you have to make the mod bigger? People haven't joined because the mod is no more than a concept. Get some work done (other than palentir art) and in game and soon people will be interested. You can't expect to get a huge team together because you showed them a techtree and a banner. Very few mods have big teams, you can't keep relying on others.

Edited by mh_gollum, 10 October 2007 - 05:53 PM.

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#14 Deathbringer

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:58 PM

Yeah we know that.We do not have modelers and skinners that is why we decided that.If we start modelling now it will take us very long to do something good for this mod.We should had found some before we started it.But anyway time will show.We have also decided to code for the units of this mod.Nolis and maybe Taralom will do it.I will code for the existed ones.

Edited by Deathbringer, 10 October 2007 - 06:02 PM.


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Posted 10 October 2007 - 06:21 PM

Yeah we know that.We do not have modelers and skinners that is why we decided that.If we start modelling now it will take us very long to do something good for this mod.We should had found some before we started it.But anyway time will show.We have also decided to code for the units of this mod.Nolis and maybe Taralom will do it.I will code for the existed ones.

I really should just keep myself out of this specific forum because everytime I read it there are posts like these that just get me frustrated and very annoyed...
Really come on do you think that mod like this would be like months job even if you would have started modeling months ago ? And do you really think that everybody who knows how to model has started long ago ? You learn in the process you know too :p
But if you just think that "Oh no, I didnt start modeling before I started a mod. Well what a heck, better just keep on complaining and trying to do a TC mod with no intention to learn new things", can you really manage to make something out of this ?
Also better now than never like people say. Sorry if it sounds little offending but thats just how I want to put it...Im trying to keep it as polite as I can but can you just please start learning instead of changing plans just because you dont get anybody to join with one techtree ?
Im sure I could go on lot more but I have other things to do.

#16 Deathbringer

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 06:28 PM

I know you are right, sorry for all these confusing posts.I guess i will have to give another try on modelling.

#17 Nolis

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 06:41 PM

Juissi if you see the first post you'll notice that it was already in our plans to change the existing factions, I don't know why he posted this:

Since noone joins we decided to make some changes on the existed fanctions.(I hate that, it is usual, but if this is what it takes to make the mod more famous, ok)

. He might have forgotten we had decided that...And I'm feeling a bit insulted about the last sentence... And Mh_gollum I've already started making work and the same I can't understand the reason he posted that! :p :D

Also except that I wanted the mod to be done I made it to learn and I believe he did it also for the same reason...

Edited by Nolis, 10 October 2007 - 06:44 PM.

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#18 Deathbringer

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 07:17 PM

Forgot ok?Anyway i think i will make it this time with modelling.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 07:51 PM

Nolis,

so what that you haven't got moddelers. Let's say that this mod is to learn how to skin, model and all other stuff.
I'll do what i can, so you both do that as well.

btw, how do you (deathbringer & Nolis) know each other? Because i've got the feeling that communication isn't usual with the two of you :p . (because of the confusing posts and all)
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 08:38 PM

We are friends for many years and he lives about 100m. away from me.And yes you are right.Now i do not only care for this mod to be done but also to learn many other things.By the way i will make the changes to existed fanctions for coding.Everyone will be stronger.i hope you agree with that cause this is the only thing i know about coding till now.I hope this post is not confusing and Nolis check out my signature if you haven't yet.

Edited by Deathbringer, 10 October 2007 - 08:40 PM.





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