Balance Thread 1.05.06
#21
Posted 23 March 2008 - 07:48 PM
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#22
Posted 23 March 2008 - 07:56 PM
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
#23
Posted 24 March 2008 - 12:39 AM
Saruman had some regular orcs around to begin with, so I wouldn't think it'd be out of line to give Isen some weak ones. Just an idea anyway.
#24
Posted 24 March 2008 - 01:45 PM
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#25
Posted 24 March 2008 - 02:43 PM
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#26
Posted 24 March 2008 - 07:43 PM
#27
Posted 24 March 2008 - 10:11 PM
Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt. We do not. It is wisdom to recognize necessity, when all other courses have been weighed, though as folly it may appear to those who cling to false hope. Well, let folly be our cloak, a veil before the eyes of the Enemy! For he is very wise, and weighs all things to a nicety in the scales of his malice. But the only measure that he knows is desire, desire for power; and so he judges all hearts. Into his heart the thought will not enter that any will refuse it, that having the Ring we may seek to destroy it. If we seek this, we shall put him out of reckoning.
-Gandalf
#29
Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:53 AM
I like the idea of lowering the cost of the steading . Perhaps lower the cost of the clan steading and add a very weak but large mob of dunlendings (like those sent against rohan settlements, but not the trained ones he used in battle in the books), perhaps with the current model of dunledings and no upgrades or just torches (no heavy armor), and make the current dunlending stats, with perhaps a bit more health and a more organised looking model (not so wild, more like the powerful warriors described at helms deep in the books), as a tier 2 fighters, as they would be pretty op as early game spam units.
well said, i personally use the current barbarians of dunland pretty often ( they are wery usefull against enemy buildings, with torches even more, . . . well thats the purpose of this unit anyway ). But adding one more, spammable and cheap dunland unit, is a goo idea, no upgrades maybe just banners and torches, and weaker than normal barbarians. ( but if ya, then please let the axe throwers get the heavy armor upgrade )
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
#30
Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:41 AM
Imo gondor are a bit underpriced, but the other uruk units are overpriced so i think it balances out. 400 I think for crossbows and 450 for pikes is insane for basic units. And you wont win a game using just normal soldiers, a decent cav charge and some archer backup would devastate that army.
Only thing is that uruk pikes are still ridiculously good with heavy armor there as strong as any of the other pike units and plus there is more of them.
I totally agree with the idea of having more expensive Gondor units because they are to cheap.
But i still think something really needs to be done with the Isengard units because yes they were very strong, but for game sake i think something needs to be done
#31
Posted 25 March 2008 - 12:38 PM
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
#32
Posted 25 March 2008 - 01:37 PM
#33
Posted 25 March 2008 - 06:48 PM
Isen:
Strong expensive infantry.
Weak cavalry
Weak heroes, and few in number.
Weak ballista.
Looks fine to me. There are other factions that need work towards balance, however. Mostly the new ones.
#34
Posted 25 March 2008 - 07:37 PM
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#35
Posted 25 March 2008 - 07:49 PM
But maybe its because we have been comparing them to Gondor (a faction with strong cheep units)
Now take elves and dwarves, against a horde of uruk hai, Guardians or swordsmen get clobbered
So maybe the answer is adjust nothing because isnegard i suppose do have some weaker areas but someone said about wargs being weak there they are horribly wrong.
#36
Posted 25 March 2008 - 08:00 PM
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#37
Posted 25 March 2008 - 08:24 PM
#38
Posted 25 March 2008 - 08:25 PM
"If it's not broken, then don't fix it"
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#39
Posted 25 March 2008 - 08:29 PM
Crossbows are said to be immune to arrows ! no they are not the building tool tip is just a lot of talk no reall efect. They dont have to be immune as immune, but they should have like 90% resistacne to ( 90% from 100% soo only 10% dmg taken ) arrows, well if you think ALL uruks ( no berserkers ) were hard arrmored, when they were sent to Helms Deep. Soo for the price of crossbows, at least increase the resistance against arrows, Crossbows cost too much, and arent really that big match for other archer units ( they are Isens only long range unit, barbaians have Slash damage as infantry and low range ).
And Shinoby, reconsider this, Isen is the only faction that doesnt have late game units ( no hero hordes now ), soo basically Full Up. pikeman horde cowers for it ( even though they are weaker then they originally were, they had 400 hp now they got just 300 !!! omg ). And to full up a bat or two isnt easy at all, when Heavy armor is at tier 3 armory. soo in multiplayer, it takes loong till you upgrade then.
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
#40
Posted 25 March 2008 - 08:39 PM
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