Jump to content


Photo

July 12th Update: Gondor Spellbook


  • Please log in to reply
127 replies to this topic

#1 Nertea

Nertea

    ...lo sa raptor!

  • Hosted
  • 3,349 posts
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Projects:Star Villains and Space heroes, The Dwarf Holds
  •  T3A Chamber Member
  • Division:BFME/Unity

Posted 12 July 2011 - 07:40 PM

We've made a number of changes to Gondor's arsenal of spellbook powers, removing duplicates and some of the others.

Posted Image


First, Elven Wood has been replaced with a new power called Remnants of Numenor. This power similarly creates an area of overgrown ruins for your troops to fight in. However, instead of giving a large bonus to armor, it gives a large bonus to experience gain rate and a small one to armor. This lets you level your troops quickly in the early game, reducing the money you might spend on Banners.

Posted ImagePosted Image


Rohan Allies has been replaced by Fealty of Dol Amroth. This new power is similar, summoning cavalry, but instead calls on Prince Imrahil and two units of powerful Knights of Dol Amroth. Besides giving generally potent units, Prince Imrahil can use Righteous Fury - a single target damage power to prey on monsters or heroes. He also comes with two passive abilities - Prince of Dol Amroth for leadership and Imrahil the Unscathed, which passively reduces the damage of all enemies attacking him in melee by 40%. Use these units wisely though, as they're only around for two minutes.

Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image


Elven Allies is gone as well, replaced by a passive spell called Light the Beacons. To explain this I'll need to tell you about the new building Gondor has acquired: the Beacon. The Beacon is built on economy plots like the Farm, and passively provides a bonus to armor and fear resistance. When you purchase Light the Beacons, they become lit and now you're in business. Each beacon can purchase Call for Aid for 500 resources, summoning a random unit from Rohan or the Southern Fiefdoms to your aid. These units are permanent and can all use formations and be upgraded with Banners. You might get Knights of Dol Amroth, a unit of Rohirrim Archers, some Spearmen from Pelargir - or one of many more possibilities.

Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image


The last major change is to the Army of the Dead. No longer does the green tide eat armies for breakfast - it functions in a slightly more interesting fashion. They don't do any damage, but instead apply a massive reduction in armor, fear resistance and damage whenever they attack an enemy. In addition, they also broadcast uncontrollable terror. Alongside the reduction in fear resistance, this means that often even high-ranked units will run away! During this time, your enemy's army is completely vulnerable to a charge by Gondor's finest.

This about concludes the changes to Gondor. I'll get on to Isengard changes in a week or so.

sig.png
I really don't do requests and my Arnor Soldier is not fit for BFME. Don't ask me for either.


#2 {IP}Solstice

{IP}Solstice

    The Relayer

  • Project Team
  • 461 posts
  • Location:Kentucky, United States

Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:37 PM

Good job nertea, finally no more green brocolli elven woods :good:
my political compass: http://www.political...-4.75&soc=-5.69
my website: http://future4.weebly.com/ (out of date)

#3 Fudge

Fudge

    title available

  • Project Team
  • 531 posts
  • Location:Devon, England
  • Projects:Luckily AotR Mapping

Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:57 PM

AMAZING :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :thumbsupsmiley:

#4 Yarrum

Yarrum

    Kahuna

  • Project Team
  • 461 posts
  • Location:New York City

Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:29 PM

That's awesome. Just curious though; while I can see that they've been edited, why are you using your OSP Knights instead of the ones made specifically for the mod? Yours look great, but I've always felt that they look a bit too Total War-ish for Battle for Middle Earth.

KotW%20Left%20Morgul%20Banner.jpg
KotW Beta Tester
frodo_sam.jpg


#5 Námo

Námo

    ***

  • Project Team
  • 1,291 posts
  • Projects:Middle-earth Lore, Cartography & Linguistics
  •  ...

Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:32 PM

The last major change is to the Army of the Dead. No longer does the green tide eat armies for breakfast - it functions in a slightly more interesting fashion. They don't do any damage, but instead apply a massive reduction in armor, fear resistance and damage whenever they attack an enemy. In addition, they also broadcast uncontrollable terror. Alongside the reduction in fear resistance, this means that often even high-ranked units will run away! During this time, your enemy's army is completely vulnerable to a charge by Gondor's finest.

Spot on. Beautiful implementation. :good:

Will the terror emanating from AotD also affect some of the Gondorian troops and their allies?
... elen síla lúmenn´ ómentielvo ...
... a star shines on the hour of our meeting ...
Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

#6 Nertea

Nertea

    ...lo sa raptor!

  • Hosted
  • 3,349 posts
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Projects:Star Villains and Space heroes, The Dwarf Holds
  •  T3A Chamber Member
  • Division:BFME/Unity

Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:16 PM

Old knights, new knights. These ones are better and have lost the immaculate TW-style textures.

Will the terror emanating from AotD also affect some of the Gondorian troops and their allies

I don't think that's even possible, and would be rather bad for gameplay if it was.

sig.png
I really don't do requests and my Arnor Soldier is not fit for BFME. Don't ask me for either.


#7 Námo

Námo

    ***

  • Project Team
  • 1,291 posts
  • Projects:Middle-earth Lore, Cartography & Linguistics
  •  ...

Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:41 PM

So, negative leadership isn't possible? Could have been fun in some cases.

However, I concur on the the gameplay aspect.
... elen síla lúmenn´ ómentielvo ...
... a star shines on the hour of our meeting ...
Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

#8 Spartan184

Spartan184

    :)

  • Project Team
  • 1,592 posts
  • Location:Moon
  • Projects:Random Modding Projects
  •  Coder, Map.ini Coder, Mapper, and Beta Tester

Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:44 PM

Negative leadership is possible, thought I'm not sure what Nertea means.

Edited by Spartan184, 13 July 2011 - 06:45 PM.


 

safsignature.png

 


#9 Nertea

Nertea

    ...lo sa raptor!

  • Hosted
  • 3,349 posts
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Projects:Star Villains and Space heroes, The Dwarf Holds
  •  T3A Chamber Member
  • Division:BFME/Unity

Posted 13 July 2011 - 07:30 PM

I assumed you meant the uncontrollable terror aspect, sorry.

sig.png
I really don't do requests and my Arnor Soldier is not fit for BFME. Don't ask me for either.


#10 {IP}Solstice

{IP}Solstice

    The Relayer

  • Project Team
  • 461 posts
  • Location:Kentucky, United States

Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:04 PM

I like what you did to the army of the dead so now everything is less op'd, now we'll just have to wait and see what isengard gets :shiftee:
my political compass: http://www.political...-4.75&soc=-5.69
my website: http://future4.weebly.com/ (out of date)

#11 Arthadan

Arthadan
  • Members
  • 215 posts

Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:24 PM

Another inspired update. You have carefully thought the improvements and it pays off. Most fitting new spellbok and the implementation of the Army of the Dead is just ace.

however, I heartly agree about the Total War look of Dol Amroth knights. I think is the closed helm with neck protection and the hand guard of the lance. Having them fighting side by side with the Dark Ages-looking Rohirrim would be quite strange.

Have you considered a helm closer to Games Workshop's version (less pointy and with smaller wings)?

Posted Image
Posted Image

Posted Image

#12 Legs

Legs

    Shipwright of The Teleri

  • Members
  • 181 posts
  • Location:Sweden

Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:36 PM

Are those Blackroot Vale bowmen?

Posted Image
Posted Image

Utúlie'n Aurë! Aiya Eldalië Ar Atanatarni, Utúlie'n Aurë!


#13 Guest_ACDC_*

Guest_ACDC_*
  • Guests

Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:14 PM

As always best looking mod for BFME keep up the great work :good:

#14 Swan_Knight93

Swan_Knight93
  • Members
  • 14 posts

Posted 13 July 2011 - 11:06 PM

First of all I would like to say that this mod is absolutely amazing. Defiantly the best one out there.
But I really think that the swan knights should be designed to look like the Games Workshop Swan Knights. They would fit better in the overall look of the Gondor army because of the similar design concepts of their helms and armor.
Your knights look good but they also look like they would fit better in medieval Europe than in the world of middle earth as depicted in the New Line movies.
I know you guys will continue to do really great stuff
Great Job and keep up the good work.

#15 Guest_Der Eremit_*

Guest_Der Eremit_*
  • Guests

Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:50 PM

This is so amazing, your mod is the best one for bfme1, for sure. But I don't like the idea of a random unit you get from a beacon. Random powers in RTS-games seem unatrractive to me.

#16 Lauri

Lauri

    Old man Lauri

  • Hosted
  • 10,436 posts
  • Location:Norway
  • Projects:The 4th Age
  •  The very worst T3A Team Chamber Member

Posted 14 July 2011 - 04:04 PM

So, how many of you are acctually looking at the screenshots when making remarks about the Knights of Dol Amroth? Instead of the renders I mean ;)

Because I see nothing wrong with them on the screenshots. Yes, they're very medieval'ish on the renders, but they are too awesome any way :p

Edited by Lauri, 14 July 2011 - 04:07 PM.

T4A_Logo_-_article.png

The 4th Age version 0.8 has been released: Link


#17 Swan_Knight93

Swan_Knight93
  • Members
  • 14 posts

Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:57 PM

I'm not saying that the current knights look bad. I'm simply saying they don't look like the design look like it would have been created by the same culture. The culture of Gondor.

#18 Yarrum

Yarrum

    Kahuna

  • Project Team
  • 461 posts
  • Location:New York City

Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:26 PM

I think that the biggest issue with Nertea's Swan Knights is the fact that their helmets are closed. While the helmets look great, they break from the visual continuity set by WETA in giving good characters open-faced helmets and giving closed ones to orcs and other assorted baddies. That, and the fact that, in my opinion, the horse barding on the old Rhovanion Alliance knights looked much better. The current ones look like an almost exact copy of the Scottish faction's general's bodyguard in Medieval 2 Total War.

KotW%20Left%20Morgul%20Banner.jpg
KotW Beta Tester
frodo_sam.jpg


#19 Lauri

Lauri

    Old man Lauri

  • Hosted
  • 10,436 posts
  • Location:Norway
  • Projects:The 4th Age
  •  The very worst T3A Team Chamber Member

Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:27 PM

Ah, so the Archers of Blackroot Vale designs are okay?

Good to know

T4A_Logo_-_article.png

The 4th Age version 0.8 has been released: Link


#20 Spartan184

Spartan184

    :)

  • Project Team
  • 1,592 posts
  • Location:Moon
  • Projects:Random Modding Projects
  •  Coder, Map.ini Coder, Mapper, and Beta Tester

Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:33 PM

Whats the big deal? Who cares they look awesome.


 

safsignature.png

 





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users