Edited by Rider of Rohan, 07 February 2013 - 05:37 PM.
The Horse Lords - Campaign Plan [ Ideas or Advice Welcome ]
#1
Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:04 AM
#2
Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:30 AM
#3
Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:37 AM
Meaning I didn't put it as a mission ?
EIDT :Sorry if i misunderstood. Do you mean add that mission into it ? I think it was only 7 missions you can fit ? Since the Campaign was 7 Missions not sure though.
Edited by Rider of Rohan, 05 February 2013 - 01:49 AM.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:01 AM
#5
Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:02 AM
The Battle at the Fords of Isen. Some great stuff in Unfinished Tales for that particularly epic part in Middle-earth's history by the Horse Lords (I just finished reading that book for the second time). I'm looking forward to it.
Looks like a great list.
Will you be using the original Helms Deep map for your campaign?
Also, I am almost sure that Aragorn and the Lords of the West did not encounter any resistance until the Black Gate.
Remember that all worlds draw to an end and that noble death is a treasure which no one is too poor to buy. - C.S. Lewis
There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. That will be the beginning. - Louis L'Amour
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#6
Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:40 PM
There can be more than 7, AFAIK, as there are tutorials on how to add the Angmar and normal ones together?
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#7
Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:00 PM
@Matt I'll be also using ideas from the Movie so Theodred won't be struck down and killed but he will be wounded enough so he cannot fight during the mission. The Helms Deep Map will be revisited and cleaned up to look Movie's Fight like so the Mission will seem improved and not a total copy of the original. Also I didn't realized the Men of the West had encountered no resistance on the way to the Black Gate.
@Bofur that tutorial was for 'replacing' the original levels also learned there are 8 slots so I'll be fitting in the Eaves of Fangorn Mission Naugrim
Any Ideas of what 'Could' replace the Ithilien Mission guys.
#10
Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:16 PM
Interesting idea, I'd like to see how this turns out
AFAIK you can make the list of missions as long as you want (No guarantees though, I have not tried myself )
#13
Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:37 PM
I'm thinking of a lore-appropriate replacement.
Also, are you really going to present the Black Gate, one of the most epic combat sequences in the books and films, as an unplayable cinematic? I think there are some really good ways to recreate that feeling and still have it fun and playable...
- Reshape the Black Gate map to have the actual gate be all the way in the back, not passable, and, during the battle, keep orcs entering the map from that direction, endlessly, while a timer ticks away.
- Start off with Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Éomer, Gandalf and Pippin facing the Mouth of Sauron. The map is not fully revealed. No hero but Aragorn is controllable. Kill the Mouth.
- The entire map is revealed, showing an army of combined Gondor and Rohan units, all rank 5, all melee, all fully upgraded. Increase the leadership granted by Aragorn and Gandalf. Everything is now under your control.
- Orcs start pouring in.
- Olog Hai start appearing.
- Eagles would be summonable as reinforcements, similar to how you summon reinforcements in BFME1 missions. The Nazgul would appear 3/4's into the battle, after about 12 minutes, after which you can summon the eagles.
Hell, maybe Sauron himself could show up eventually. Another good idea would be to follow the book and create a large, flat elevation for your troops to form up on.
Edited by Mathijs, 06 February 2013 - 07:46 PM.
No fuel left for the pilgrims
#14
Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:45 PM
That is actually not bad. Or we could have the Heavy Troll Come Out to Fight Aragorn sometime after the Eagles appear.
I did some research : March 11, 15, and 22 were the Seige dates for (Mirkwood on the 15th and) Lorien. So perhaps we could include the Elves in the Campaign .
#15
Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:46 PM
Sounds very fun indeed.
In regards to the whole "pre-black-gate resistance thing", someone of greater lore than me can probably correct me but I recall resistance in Ithillien as you say.
Didn't a group of "MOTE" attempt to ambush Aragorn's posse in pretty much the same spot as Faramir's rangers ambushed a bunch of them in the Two Towers?
I think that their scouts caught them out though and they just sent calvary round the back to pincer them.
... Actually that could make for a SWEET battle if you did it right haha.
#16
Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:19 AM
Duke is correct.
The Return of the King - The Black Gate Opens
It was near the end of the second day of their march from the Cross-roads that they first met any offer of battle. For a strong force of Orcs and Easterlings attempted to take their leading companies in an ambush..."It is but a feint," said Aragorn; "and its chief purpose, I deem, was rather to draw us on by a false guess of our Enemy's weakness..."
Edited by MattTheLegoman, 07 February 2013 - 08:20 AM.
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Remember that all worlds draw to an end and that noble death is a treasure which no one is too poor to buy. - C.S. Lewis
There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. That will be the beginning. - Louis L'Amour
What will matter then will be people. If relationships will matter most then, shouldn't they matter most now? - Max Lucado
#17
Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:49 PM
Well then I guess that settles that. But since the Campaign is "Unlimited" I can still include the Elves in One Mission and the Dwarves also since it is the "Good" Campaign I don't see any harm. During March 17-27 was the Battle of Dale, and the Battle of the Black Gates was held on the 25th. By my beard, I think we've got ourselves a bonus mission .
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