N(u)K(e) test?
#41
Posted 16 October 2006 - 01:58 AM
Yes, because we all know that overglorified jeeps, a few aircraft, and ten tanks, y'know, the only things we have in Europe right now, will make a world of difference against... say... thirty Motor Rifle divisions.
#42
Posted 16 October 2006 - 02:06 AM
It's not really an insult when it is a fact.It stands to reason that unless someone has significant experience in the field of international relations, they cannot definitely say that something will happen. I can state with some certainty that the United States does not have the resources to fight a war in Europe, but we might anyway. I can't stand seeing posts by someone ignorant of the facts who thinks, literally, that the United States can beat Russia in the morning and have the soldiers home in time for tea.
Hey man, I may not have a PHD in anything, but I sure as hell can type up what I think is right. Also, you calling me 'ignorant' is starting to show me that that's all you can say, and you need to stop woth those insults. Did I ever say they would be back later in the day? No. So don't twist what I say.
Anyways, We can kick the Russiann's behinds if they try to invade us or our allies. Rgose A10s can mow down tanks, raptors for aircraft, abrams for tanks, humvees for running over infantry, and marines to make sure the job is done.And that's not all, folks.
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#43
Posted 16 October 2006 - 05:56 AM
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#44
Posted 16 October 2006 - 10:02 AM
Basically, mainland Europe would be doomed if there was an invasion, they would head straight through Germany, with NATO forces devestated after loosing divisions in West Germany the Russians would march through the low countrys into France before proberly begining to bomb the UK with long range bombers.
At the same time, Russian forces would invade the US via Alaska or Canada. Any event would cause a nuclear exchange.
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#45
Posted 16 October 2006 - 11:25 AM
#46
Posted 16 October 2006 - 01:09 PM
its not about technology all the time, its about manpower and willpower.
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#47
Posted 16 October 2006 - 01:28 PM
Also even in a MAD situation no one would win cos the USA may obliterate the military capabilities of russia but they would have obliterated most if not all of the usa cities with there giant nukes.
Sounds like history repeating itself but instead of communism its terrorism.
Russia simply has the numbers and sheer numbers of allies against "imperialism"
If the OPEC nations also sided with the Russians then economy is ruined for the US.
Today we are increasingly dependent on a few lines of oil.
Also I thought Russia has a operational ABM system?
Edited by Allied General, 16 October 2006 - 01:36 PM.
#48
Posted 16 October 2006 - 06:16 PM
Too cute! | Server Status: If you can read this, it's up |Well, when it comes to writing an expository essay about counter-insurgent tactics, I'm of the old school. First you tell them how you're going to kill them. Then you kill them. Then you tell them how you just killed them.
#49
Posted 16 October 2006 - 08:37 PM
You should probably note that that was well before Rumsfeld decreased US troop deployment in Germany significantly. Similarly, the enlistment rate has dropped significantly, and the troops in Afghanistan are almost now wholly reservists who should be close to retirement and pension age. Additionally, tensions between former USSR members and Russia have decreased, and the RF seems to be increasingly opposed to Western Europe in its increasingly fascist policies.Its quite interesting how MSpencers stance on global conventional war and USA not winning, I remember him ages ago saying it would be like a duck shooting gallery well at least against chinese forces yet now he admits that in terms of manpower and resources East would beat West?
Although I do maintain that if the United States were ever involved in a mainly continental or island war with China, it would really be no contest. The United States has the naval assets to effectively destroy the Chinese Navy, and the allies and support to hold the Pacific resource areas indefinitely. China would be trapped in its own territory with no means of force projection, and an invasion would not even be required. Devastation would come on the scale of Japan in 1945, that is pretty much the only way the United States can fight Pacific wars, just like land offensives are the only option in Europe.
#51
Posted 16 October 2006 - 09:51 PM
#52
Posted 16 October 2006 - 09:54 PM
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#53
Posted 16 October 2006 - 09:58 PM
if they felt like it they would probably drop a nuke on you just to mess with texas. Russia would most likely have the possibility to invade Europe, but i don't see any reasons for taking mainland Europe. theres not really anything of importance there. northern europe and specifically Norway with our oil-reserves on the other hand...
Russia have their own all, its the British you want to look out for!
Edited by chemical ali, 16 October 2006 - 09:59 PM.
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“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
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#54
Posted 16 October 2006 - 10:12 PM
#55
Posted 16 October 2006 - 11:36 PM
England wouldnt even need to invade, they get most of the gas these days anyway. if anything they would probably be invited over to defend the northern borders if Russia started getting troublesome. how is the Russian Navy doing these days anyway?
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#56
Posted 17 October 2006 - 02:20 AM
Also, when you really look at things, the US has a great deal more military manpower fit for service in comparison to Russia (about 55,000,000 to 21,000,000). Now, if Russia declared war on the world tomorrow, I'd at least assume there would be a draft. Along with the fact that the government would most likely take over most of the US industry and convert them into arms factories as in WW II.
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"Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of the government." -Pierre Joseph Proudhon
"You sleep safe in your beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do you harm." -George Orwell
#57
Posted 17 October 2006 - 02:53 AM
#59
Posted 17 October 2006 - 04:34 AM
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#60
Posted 17 October 2006 - 04:45 AM
But what if the point? To kick peoples asses, that's the kinds mentality of a little school kid in the schoolyard.What we have to do to counter the commies:
1. Blow thier asses to peices with our superior troops, armor, and aircraft. Yes, we would suffer heavy losses, but we have been up against the odds before. We can conquer them.
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