any thoughts about what will happen now? will the democrats totally pwn the republicans now? will michael j. fox get his cure for parkinson? or will the republicans turn the election around with some good old fashioned holier than thou speeches?
so, americans are voting again
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 06:03 PM
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 08:49 PM
No doubt in my mind the democrats have got it.
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 09:27 PM
Democrats have it in the bag this time around, due to unkept promises by our President. Oh, and because monkey-faced, homosexual Republicans are apparently a turn-off to the rest of our country. 
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When history witnesses a great change Razgriz reveals itself,
first as a dark demon. As a demon it uses it power to rain death upon the land,
and then it dies. However after a period of slumber Razgriz returns
As the demon sleeps, man turns on man.
Its own blood, and madness soon cover the earth.
From the depths of despair awaken the Razgriz.
Its raven wings ablaze in majestic light.
Amidst the eternal waves of time
From a ripple of change shall the storm rise
Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon
Behold the Razgriz, its wings of black sheath
The demon soars through the dark skies
Fear and Death trail its shadow beneath
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 09:48 PM
Seeing the ridiculous advert from the republicans i hope people realise that they are not worth voting this election. Its not until november the 7th. I don't support voting the democrats either because they will not be much different if they dominated the senate.
As far as i know even if the democrats got alot of votes, the republicans would still have a majority in the senate, that might be incorrect however. I think the 2008 presidential election will be more interesting.
As far as i know even if the democrats got alot of votes, the republicans would still have a majority in the senate, that might be incorrect however. I think the 2008 presidential election will be more interesting.
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 09:52 PM
No, Democrats will most likely have majority in all of Congress. Well, according to CNN, Fox News, ABC, NBC, and CBS, at least.
OLD SIG
When history witnesses a great change Razgriz reveals itself,
first as a dark demon. As a demon it uses it power to rain death upon the land,
and then it dies. However after a period of slumber Razgriz returns
As the demon sleeps, man turns on man.
Its own blood, and madness soon cover the earth.
From the depths of despair awaken the Razgriz.
Its raven wings ablaze in majestic light.
Amidst the eternal waves of time
From a ripple of change shall the storm rise
Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon
Behold the Razgriz, its wings of black sheath
The demon soars through the dark skies
Fear and Death trail its shadow beneath
Until Men united wield a hallowed sabre
In Final Reckoning, the beast is slain.
Razgriz intrerpretation
<-This stays up there for you, buddy!
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 09:54 PM
It still won't change much imo. Both parties are mainly owned/sponsored by corporations etc.
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 10:05 PM
Well, here's an old Japanese saying for you, in poem form, to convey how I think this will possibly affect the country for the Republicans:
For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost.
For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost.
For want of a horse, the messenger was lost.
For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered.
For need of the message, the war was lost.
~Japanese saying, anonymous
I personally like that saying. Mainly, it shows that even with only the change of the houses of Congress, it could change the way our country handles everything, from foreign policy to the war in Iraq (plus, lots of other current issues). Whether this change is for the better or worse, remains to be seen.OLD SIG
When history witnesses a great change Razgriz reveals itself,
first as a dark demon. As a demon it uses it power to rain death upon the land,
and then it dies. However after a period of slumber Razgriz returns
As the demon sleeps, man turns on man.
Its own blood, and madness soon cover the earth.
From the depths of despair awaken the Razgriz.
Its raven wings ablaze in majestic light.
Amidst the eternal waves of time
From a ripple of change shall the storm rise
Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon
Behold the Razgriz, its wings of black sheath
The demon soars through the dark skies
Fear and Death trail its shadow beneath
Until Men united wield a hallowed sabre
In Final Reckoning, the beast is slain.
Razgriz intrerpretation
<-This stays up there for you, buddy!
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Posted 28 October 2006 - 12:09 AM
after what i reckon. if congress is totally pwned by democrats its not alot of stuff that the republicans will be through there. and i believe that most laws and such things has to go through congress...
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Posted 28 October 2006 - 02:18 AM
The Democrats won't win some incredible victory. The Republicans, without fail, will dredge up some newly created threat of homosexuality overtaking the world to drag out the super-fundamentalist evangelical righties hiding in Utah to come vote for them, just like they did in 2004. Fox News loves the prospect, and were somehow able to do a quick replacement of the (R-FL) next to Mark Foley's name with (D-FL), in another attempt to subvert the elections process and destroy the democratic party. Unfortunately, that's pretty much true.
In a country with the greatest scientific minds, the most powerful industry in the world, and the most academic institutions, elections come down to a contest over some deeply held views which are paramount to a religion. More people register to vote for American Idol than for the national elections, and people do not care who they elect. Ignorance, unfortunately, still reigns supreme as people drink in the media agendas and run out and vote for anyone who opposes the other guy, who apparently, according to Fox News, is all for aborting live babies in the nursery with a pistol.
Yes, American politics is real fun. Real, real fun. So much fun I want to shoot myself in absolute amazement at the willful ignorance of a large proportion of people in the United States.
In a country with the greatest scientific minds, the most powerful industry in the world, and the most academic institutions, elections come down to a contest over some deeply held views which are paramount to a religion. More people register to vote for American Idol than for the national elections, and people do not care who they elect. Ignorance, unfortunately, still reigns supreme as people drink in the media agendas and run out and vote for anyone who opposes the other guy, who apparently, according to Fox News, is all for aborting live babies in the nursery with a pistol.
Yes, American politics is real fun. Real, real fun. So much fun I want to shoot myself in absolute amazement at the willful ignorance of a large proportion of people in the United States.
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Posted 28 October 2006 - 07:38 AM
I agree Spencer.
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Posted 28 October 2006 - 07:39 AM
I think it really is up to the Democrats to win this race, just as it was last election. Hopefully they don't fuck up and actually provide a plan this time instead of trying to ride out the Anti-Bushism again.
Not that it makes much of a difference who wins anyways... but oh well
Not that it makes much of a difference who wins anyways... but oh well
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Posted 28 October 2006 - 07:48 AM
Yea, it makes no real difference who wins. They both have the same secret agenda.
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Posted 28 October 2006 - 03:46 PM
There are no secret agendas.
Stop licking the mercury off the floors.
The only way a change would ever be effected is if the Democrats controlled, by a large majority, both houses, the Supreme Court, and the Presidency, as well as most states. That's why things will never change, they can't. It's not because Ted Kennedy's secret agenda is that he wants to dominate the world.
Stop licking the mercury off the floors.
The only way a change would ever be effected is if the Democrats controlled, by a large majority, both houses, the Supreme Court, and the Presidency, as well as most states. That's why things will never change, they can't. It's not because Ted Kennedy's secret agenda is that he wants to dominate the world.
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Posted 28 October 2006 - 09:43 PM
lol...
Meh, I agree that there's no "secret" agenda, but there is an agenda. The democrats aren't really that much different from Republicans, most of the restrictions on bussiness they create only hurt small bussiness and amazingly leave massive loopholes for the people that fund their party. The agenda is a simple one, and that's to make a profit.
Meh, I agree that there's no "secret" agenda, but there is an agenda. The democrats aren't really that much different from Republicans, most of the restrictions on bussiness they create only hurt small bussiness and amazingly leave massive loopholes for the people that fund their party. The agenda is a simple one, and that's to make a profit.
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"You sleep safe in your beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do you harm." -George Orwell
Economic Left/Right: 6.88
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 01:26 AM
Ugh, I never said the secret agenda was to take over the world. You assumed that.
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 02:52 AM
There is so much crazy hipocrisy with the democrats/liberals.
Take energy for one: they protested about nuclear power plants, now we haven't built a new one in decades, they bitch about coal and pollution. They protest and stop us from finding new sources of oil on our own soil in Alaska.
They are now protesting a new natural gas terminal 14 miles off the coast of California. Natural gas being one of the cleanest methods.
So what are we supposed to power our economy with? Potato juice or just foreign oil? Windmills in Utah and solar panels in Texas isn't gonna get my car to work or heat my home in DC.
Take energy for one: they protested about nuclear power plants, now we haven't built a new one in decades, they bitch about coal and pollution. They protest and stop us from finding new sources of oil on our own soil in Alaska.
They are now protesting a new natural gas terminal 14 miles off the coast of California. Natural gas being one of the cleanest methods.
So what are we supposed to power our economy with? Potato juice or just foreign oil? Windmills in Utah and solar panels in Texas isn't gonna get my car to work or heat my home in DC.
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 03:38 AM
Oil drilling in Alaska would completely destroy the ecosystem. I would think that would perhaps have some sort of effect on you.
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 05:44 AM
So why not figure out a way to do it without destroying the environment. We build causeways in the Alaskan pipeline for migrating animals to follow thier natural paths, surelly we can solve this.
We build interstate highways that run through the Rocky Mountains right? We build nuclear bombs? We sent a man to the moon, we sent remote vehicles to Mars?
I'm sure we can figure out how to get some oil from the ground without destroying everything around it. It's not like the oil companies don't have enough money to "make it profitable and eco-friendly"
We build interstate highways that run through the Rocky Mountains right? We build nuclear bombs? We sent a man to the moon, we sent remote vehicles to Mars?
I'm sure we can figure out how to get some oil from the ground without destroying everything around it. It's not like the oil companies don't have enough money to "make it profitable and eco-friendly"
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 09:44 AM
Either way it's gonna get drilled out sooner or later when everybody starts to realise that oil is actually running out and prices will catapult through the roof. Regardless of the ecosystem.
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 01:28 PM
It's the actual discovery process which is destructive. And there's no real way to make drilling platforms look like ice sculptures.So why not figure out a way to do it without destroying the environment. We build causeways in the Alaskan pipeline for migrating animals to follow thier natural paths, surelly we can solve this.
We build interstate highways that run through the Rocky Mountains right? We build nuclear bombs? We sent a man to the moon, we sent remote vehicles to Mars?
I'm sure we can figure out how to get some oil from the ground without destroying everything around it. It's not like the oil companies don't have enough money to "make it profitable and eco-friendly"
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