Consoles = useless.
So who's getting the Wii?
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 04:23 PM
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 05:18 PM
Not really ,, I've had (and still have) lot's of fun with my PS2Consoles = useless.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 06:09 PM
I'll only buy Wii if I go to US. The price of this videogame in Brazil will be far too much expensive. I prefer to not imagine PS3's price.
I'm a Nintendo fan. I think their games are original, although some of them are not (Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart and this kind of thing is ported to every platform). The best thing in a Nintendo console, is that Nintendo games usually receive some hard work to provide the best gameplay factor. Fast and fluid response and some insanity assured in their games. PS usually doesn't have that fast fluid from Nintendo... and I never tried XBox, but if it's from Microsoft, I assure you that its games will have a shitload of bugs
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I'm a Nintendo fan. I think their games are original, although some of them are not (Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart and this kind of thing is ported to every platform). The best thing in a Nintendo console, is that Nintendo games usually receive some hard work to provide the best gameplay factor. Fast and fluid response and some insanity assured in their games. PS usually doesn't have that fast fluid from Nintendo... and I never tried XBox, but if it's from Microsoft, I assure you that its games will have a shitload of bugs
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 06:36 PM
I'll only buy Wii if I go to US. The price of this videogame in Brazil will be far too much expensive. I prefer to not imagine PS3's price.
I'm a Nintendo fan. I think their games are original, although some of them are not (Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart and this kind of thing is ported to every platform). The best thing in a Nintendo console, is that Nintendo games usually receive some hard work to provide the best gameplay factor. Fast and fluid response and some insanity assured in their games. PS usually doesn't have that fast fluid from Nintendo... and I never tried XBox, but if it's from Microsoft, I assure you that its games will have a shitload of bugs
Zelda... Every platform? What planet are you on.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 06:56 PM
Every Nintendo plaaform...
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 07:01 PM
Nintendo make games for fun and enjoyment, Sony and Microsoft make them for the graphics and gameplay.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 07:14 PM
No Ali, they all make them for money.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 07:22 PM
lol.
There's a few old Zelda games for the CD-I, but those are different (they are very good imo though). Console games usually are much more expensive. The only games I'm really interested in is some of the Final Fantasy series (maybe Zelda but the Zelda from the N64 was kinda different than from the CD-I ones.. I've never been able / allowed to play it myself though). Hopefully my brother will buy a PS3 or him and me can split the price. There's a few PS2 games that I like and play on his PS2 now and then (FFX, FFX-2, Ratchet & Clank 1,2,3, Jak & Dexter1,..) .. but tbh I prefer to be in my room on my pc with a mouse and keyboard and not in the living room where I hear a vacuum cleaner now and then (of course if I had a TV and console that'd be partially solved.. but a TV without cable is honestly useless, not that I watch TV anymore though. Alternatively I can also play it, with either left or right speaker sound, on my pc with monitor). It's too bad you can't play those games on the pc really (other than that). Anyway, to return to the topic question, I won't be buying it.
There's a few old Zelda games for the CD-I, but those are different (they are very good imo though). Console games usually are much more expensive. The only games I'm really interested in is some of the Final Fantasy series (maybe Zelda but the Zelda from the N64 was kinda different than from the CD-I ones.. I've never been able / allowed to play it myself though). Hopefully my brother will buy a PS3 or him and me can split the price. There's a few PS2 games that I like and play on his PS2 now and then (FFX, FFX-2, Ratchet & Clank 1,2,3, Jak & Dexter1,..) .. but tbh I prefer to be in my room on my pc with a mouse and keyboard and not in the living room where I hear a vacuum cleaner now and then (of course if I had a TV and console that'd be partially solved.. but a TV without cable is honestly useless, not that I watch TV anymore though. Alternatively I can also play it, with either left or right speaker sound, on my pc with monitor). It's too bad you can't play those games on the pc really (other than that). Anyway, to return to the topic question, I won't be buying it.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 07:23 PM
No I'm saying at the way they create their consoles and games. Silly kopackle.....
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 07:50 PM
Wait - so gameplay and enjoyment are different concepts?
They're the same, and nintendo games always have been, and always will be, much more fun and with much better gameplay than any other console.
They're the same, and nintendo games always have been, and always will be, much more fun and with much better gameplay than any other console.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 08:17 PM
Well when you make the same game over and over again, I would hope they would get better with each incarnation.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 08:25 PM
This is only the 2nd 3d Zelda game, 3rd if you count Wind Waker. Also, totally different. The only good exclusive the PS3 has is MGS, and that's the last game in the series before the guy who does it starts making stuff for nintendo. Apart from that, you've nothing at all, it's an empty shell of a console. Even PES and GTA, your other two saving graces, are going to be made for nintendo now.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 09:12 PM
Kal: 4th actually: you forgot Majora's Mask (though it was on a modified OoT engine). But yeah, each of them plays as a new one.
And GTA IV is only confirmed for PC, PS3 and 360 afaik. PES is even exclusive to 360 this year.
Blaat: the CDi Zelda's should not be compared to the console versions, as they are not made by Nintendo. And I told my opinion on consoles before. They often have much nicer games in certain genres (RPG, Action Adventure, Platform)
As for PS3 vs 360 vs Wii: Well though I have a 360 which really interests me the most for bringing me games within multiple genres and multiple franchises. PlayStation never interested me. I dont like much japanese games (Save for Nintendo and Team Ninja games) and on American games PS only have crappy titles IMO (Jak doesnt interest me, Id rather play a Zelda or something) Nintendo, like I said earlier, only interest me with its own stuff, and among those only Zelda really stands out for me (and perhaps Metroid). 3rd party from Nintendo tends to suck. Plus, im not to sure on the Wii mote.. its new and original, but Im not sold yet. Perhaps in due time. 360 got my interest because of good experiences with my Xbox and quite some interesting games (Mass Effect, Halo3, Viva Pinata and GoW for example). Oh and Banshee, it hardly crashes
And GTA IV is only confirmed for PC, PS3 and 360 afaik. PES is even exclusive to 360 this year.
Blaat: the CDi Zelda's should not be compared to the console versions, as they are not made by Nintendo. And I told my opinion on consoles before. They often have much nicer games in certain genres (RPG, Action Adventure, Platform)
As for PS3 vs 360 vs Wii: Well though I have a 360 which really interests me the most for bringing me games within multiple genres and multiple franchises. PlayStation never interested me. I dont like much japanese games (Save for Nintendo and Team Ninja games) and on American games PS only have crappy titles IMO (Jak doesnt interest me, Id rather play a Zelda or something) Nintendo, like I said earlier, only interest me with its own stuff, and among those only Zelda really stands out for me (and perhaps Metroid). 3rd party from Nintendo tends to suck. Plus, im not to sure on the Wii mote.. its new and original, but Im not sold yet. Perhaps in due time. 360 got my interest because of good experiences with my Xbox and quite some interesting games (Mass Effect, Halo3, Viva Pinata and GoW for example). Oh and Banshee, it hardly crashes
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 09:20 PM
Well yeah, I saw it as more of an expansion pack if anything.
Also, PES is being brought to nintendo after this version - there's even a version currently in development for the DS.
Also, Rockstar have said they are working with Nintendo in the future.
Also, PES is being brought to nintendo after this version - there's even a version currently in development for the DS.
Also, Rockstar have said they are working with Nintendo in the future.
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Posted 07 November 2006 - 09:55 PM
Consoles = useless.
When you can get peripherals and games which support the motion sensing and touchscreen stuff that the DS and the Wii have, that'll be the day that they'll be redundant. For now, they're far from useless.
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 12:29 AM
0_o If you really want to know I think there was a motion pistol for thos shoot'em up games available on PC some 10 years ago Being serious though: WTF? I cannot imagine myself playing a game on touchscreen even moreso on a pc. The same goes for all those motion gizmos. To me it's all useless, especially Nintendo's with all their peripherals which look to me as yet another way to drag the money off morons.
But that's just me and I may be wrong. Then again, I'm probably not.
Being serious though: WTF? I cannot imagine myself playing a game on touchscreen even moreso on a pc. The same goes for all those motion gizmos. To me it's all useless, especially Nintendo's with all their peripherals which look to me as yet another way to drag the money off morons.But that's just me and I may be wrong. Then again, I'm probably not.
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Wii will make gaming innovative and new with it's new controller. I really think that after playing Wii I will not be interested in the 360 and PS3, they are just the same as the Xbox and the PS2, but with better graphics and that stuff... Even the games are the same, I mean, there isn't a single good game for PS3, just like in PS2, and Xbox just had some good games (Halo mainly), which will probably be the same deal with the 360...
Nintendo realized that they were doing the same thing for a long time, and they decided to come up with an idea to make videogaming look new, and they did: Making the player control the character by it's own movement makes videogaming intuitive and more inmersive, which will boost the entertainment you have by tons.
Nintendo realized that they were doing the same thing for a long time, and they decided to come up with an idea to make videogaming look new, and they did: Making the player control the character by it's own movement makes videogaming intuitive and more inmersive, which will boost the entertainment you have by tons.
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 07:26 AM
@Kal: Rockstar makes more than just GTA, so wouldnt count on it just yet
@Mr. Graffitty: Well the Wii and PS3/360 go into a different direction. Motion sensing can either be gimmicky (much like it will be on PS3) or it can bring new options. But even Nintendo knows that some things wont work on Wii (SSB and Fire Emblem have been confirmed to not support the Wiimote)
Though most might say processingpower only brings better looking games clearly hasnt watched at announced next-gen games. Better processing power doesnt just bring new graphics, it also brings better ways to calculate AI, put more stuff on screen or just have an enourmously large world. BioWare will publish Mass Effect sometime next year, an RPG where you dont just have a small country to walk through.. you have a completely moddeled Galaxy to explore. The Wii wont be able to handle that, its just not strong enough for it. That being said, the Wii will inded bring some new experiences to gaming, though I still wonder how long it will stay fun AND if it isnt just mostly usable for party games. But time will tell.
@Mr. Graffitty: Well the Wii and PS3/360 go into a different direction. Motion sensing can either be gimmicky (much like it will be on PS3) or it can bring new options. But even Nintendo knows that some things wont work on Wii (SSB and Fire Emblem have been confirmed to not support the Wiimote)
Though most might say processingpower only brings better looking games clearly hasnt watched at announced next-gen games. Better processing power doesnt just bring new graphics, it also brings better ways to calculate AI, put more stuff on screen or just have an enourmously large world. BioWare will publish Mass Effect sometime next year, an RPG where you dont just have a small country to walk through.. you have a completely moddeled Galaxy to explore. The Wii wont be able to handle that, its just not strong enough for it. That being said, the Wii will inded bring some new experiences to gaming, though I still wonder how long it will stay fun AND if it isnt just mostly usable for party games. But time will tell.
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:23 AM
Unfortunately for the Ps3, you'll find most of its games to be a little object sparse because of unusual hardware constrictions - so that isn't necessarily true
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 10:43 AM
true, but 360 is easier to program for and could easily do it
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