school shootings in the states again
#21
Posted 19 April 2007 - 12:42 AM
The underlying problem is that if you legalise it completely, you encourage people to buy. However if you disallow it, the black market is going to go wild. The solution as usual lies in between: have guns available for purchase, but instead of encouraging it by western culture and capitalist lies - inform people of what guns really are and what are the consequences of using guns. Same thing goes for drugs, really.
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#22
Posted 19 April 2007 - 10:19 AM
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#24
Posted 19 April 2007 - 12:11 PM
you practically have to be a cop too be allowed to carry one or have it in your car. hell, cops arent even allowed to have pistols/shotguns on them unless they are in a bad situation, and even then the guns are usually locked into a safebox in the back of the car or at the station.
we´ve had like 3 cop killings since the war, and i can guarantee you that any criminal who kills a cop over here is doomed as it will be blown up in the media as if it was 9/11. there was a bank robbery two years back where a cop got killed. all people connected to the bank robbery got busted, which was like 9 doing the robbery and 5-8 indirectly helping out by renting out buildings for them and stuff like that.
naturally, the fact that we only have 5 million in this place makes it easier to control. but even if you multiply that with 60 to get US populations, its around 200 cops dead since the war. i think thats what gets lost every year over there...
Edited by duke_Qa, 19 April 2007 - 12:20 PM.
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#25
Posted 19 April 2007 - 03:05 PM
You are absolutely wrong in your stereotypes of Americans. That's like me saying that everyone in Germany is actually anti - semetic and fascist.
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#26
Posted 19 April 2007 - 04:25 PM
The idea of guns being a consitutional right in the states is based on the fact that if a government becomes tyrannical then the population (or at least the resisting part of the population) have a means of defending themselves.
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Personally at this time I think disarming the US population would be dangerous in the long term.
Is the american government really THAT dangerous!
2 more points to consider
- Strangely enough, government officials don't really have any intention of disarming the poplulation. There would be a good reason for disarmament. The people would be less afraid of being shot on the streets. But being part of the government incidentally has the advantage of being protected to the neck by bodyguards. They don't have to fear any of it. Maybe this protection should simply be removed to let them know the feeling.
- The government and other officials in power receive SO MUCH money from the arms industry, they have a hard time saying no. Besides, if they don't take it, their rivals will. No who will win an election? All other reasons for NOT abolishing weapons are reason proclaimed to hide what the availability of weapons (and their sale - think big business) really is about.
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#27
Posted 19 April 2007 - 05:10 PM
That is why I said "pretty much". That doesn't mean "all". If you live in a suburb, it's less so but it is increasingly visible in the counties and in the big cities apparently.That's what we'd love to have in the US up here in the north! As far as I can tell, the south may as well be its own country. The political attitudes are completely different. Blodo, you are really going pretty far with the generalizing. There is not a single gun owned on my street, the street next to it, and so on for about 5 streets until you reach this Irish guy who has I'm pretty confident has mob connections. Yeah, we've got burglar alarms, but that's just a precaution. Rather have one and have a communist I've never met that lives half the world away think I'm paranoid than end up with a thief in my house and not know it.
They aren't?You are absolutely wrong in your stereotypes of Americans. That's like me saying that everyone in Germany is actually anti - semetic and fascist.
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#28
Posted 19 April 2007 - 06:04 PM
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#29
Posted 20 April 2007 - 08:21 PM
How?
Simple. He is the man who introduced massive illegal tax-cuts to the rich.
Who is the richest man in America?
Bill Gates.
Bill Gates is the owner of Microsoft.
Microsoft is the platform on which 99% of PC games are played.
Also Microsoft employees founded Valve which created Counter-strike. A Microsoft company, XBox Live, sells millions of copies of Counter-strike.
The growth in popularity of Counter-strike coincides exactly with Bush's term of office.
Cho Seung Hui was pathologically addicted to Counter-strike. Counter-strike desensitized him to violence taught him how to kill.
Counter-strike is a Mass Murder Simulator which turns normal people into monsters and George Bush is a terrorist worse than Bin Laden.
#31
Posted 21 April 2007 - 12:26 AM
i understand you are joking, but i hate when people say video games/movies cause violence. If they cause violence, the person playing shouldnt have been playing in the first place.Cho Seung Hui was pathologically addicted to Counter-strike. Counter-strike desensitized him to violence taught him how to kill.
#32
Posted 21 April 2007 - 12:39 AM
Guns suprisingly aren't the main issue here. Banning wouldn't really work because Canada and Switzerland allow gun ownage but shooting sprees are very rare occurences, one in UK, a few in Germany thats about it. Even with a gun ban there would be some form of resistance/riots or otherwise a increase in knife crime.
The laws and response in USA is very wierd. They can overreact in invading peoples privacy, patriot act etc but when a gunman is on campus, there is no massive alarm of evacuation procedure, just a simple email and carry on with lessons.
The guys issue was a lack of socialisation due to bullying. He retreated into the world of violence, sexual pervesion (taking knicker shots of girls) most likely influenced by nilhism culture (he did like death songs) and the extremely violent Korean film Old Boy (very disturbed but a very brillant film in many respects) Basically the guy was a attention seeking whore and the media took the bait and there will probably be some ignorant backlash against Koreans and violent films/games/music.
Basically some individuals overreact badly to outside negative influences e.g. suicide/killing sprees
Edited by Allied General, 21 April 2007 - 12:41 AM.
#34
Posted 03 May 2007 - 12:40 AM
The majority of gun owners in the US are responsible with them. I'd say atleast 90%. Note that everytime a school shooting happens, its never some 60 year old redneck whos always owned guns, its always some pissed off punk kid/kids with mental problems who acquire/steal/buy the guns three days before the shooting. What needs to be done is mental screenings for firearms, to prevent psychos from getting them.
Also...I guarantee you. I said that the majority of gun owners are responsible and safe, that is until...the government attempts to take their guns away. I guarantee you that the moment that happens, the VTech massacre will be nothing compared to the carnage that will envelop much of the south. My gun freak friend swears she'll kill numerous people before they take her guns away, most likely by prying it from her cold dead fingers...
I've never touched a real gun IRL, btw.
Edited by Kacen, 03 May 2007 - 12:42 AM.
#35
Posted 03 May 2007 - 08:53 PM
i agree with you on the mental screening, but none the less there needs to be a lot tougher law enforcement on guns in the US, maybe more background history cheacks and medical checks etc. so they can see who wants one to shoot targets such as cans, paper or birds and who wants one to massacare innocent people.
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#36
Posted 03 May 2007 - 08:54 PM
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#37
Posted 06 May 2007 - 03:21 PM
#39
Posted 06 May 2007 - 05:25 PM
#40
Posted 06 May 2007 - 06:07 PM
This is the place where all the junkies go, where time gets fast but everything gets slow.
I'll get to the moon if I have to crawl.
The problem with any government is that it eventually attracts politicians.
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