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#1
Posted 20 April 2007 - 07:06 PM
Hmm...
So..... high.........
Smoked 2 ounces already, have about 1.5 ounces left.
#2
Posted 20 April 2007 - 07:11 PM
I just think we should legalize it so that the governmetn can tax it. Right now, so many people smoke pot and dont get caught that it's practically legal anyways, so why shouldn't the government make some money off of it?
#3
Posted 20 April 2007 - 07:29 PM
At least that way drug use can be monitored legally and easily, and the prospect of 'harm minimisation' can be properly implemented without police looking as if they're not doing anything to combat the problem. Also, at least those who use the drugs know what they're getting is actually what they think it is, and not flour or rat poison or something.
It also stops the fuckers breaking into houses and stealing stuff to fuel their habits as they won't have records for drug use and so can actually get jobs.
And what's more? It all but puts the current slew of unscrupulous dealers out of business!
Naturally, I don't agree with them being sold to kids (although I have, when at school, seen children as young as 11 smoking on a regular basis, and have heard of kids as young as 9 doing so). But if you're old enough to smoke, drink, have kids and do all those other wonderful things to/with yourself, what right does the government have to dictate what you can/cannot do with your own body?
If I want to snort coke, then who'm I hurting by doing so except myself?
Note to you all that my one and only poison is alcohol. I don't smoke and I hate it. But if you want to smoke I don't care and I wouldn't want to stop you, any more than I'd want to stop you snorting coke, smoking weed or jabbing needles in your arm. Good luck to you. Enjoy. Have fun. No, I don't want any. Just pass me another beer!
On the flip side, I don't believe medical assistance should be rendered to long-term (ab)users of any substance we would define as a drug. Smokers get lung cancer? That's your luck out. Cirrhosis of the liver from alcoholism? Sorry. 'Just one more' was the last one to put ya over the edge.
Okay, tell you what. First time, okay, you get treatment. Then you must stop. Any future recurrences due to use of the substance will not even be looked at; you only get one liver transplant, and even then you're bottom of the list. Poor kid whose liver failed needs it more.
Edited by Paradox, 20 April 2007 - 07:34 PM.
#5
Posted 21 April 2007 - 02:04 AM
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#7
Posted 21 April 2007 - 12:51 PM
To be honest in order to legalise or decriminalise drugs in any of our countries, we should at least do a 10 year education program at schools so the next generation of children understand drugs, know about their effects and either choose consciously not to use them, or use them responsibly and in moderation.
Problem is everyone there is no real drug or sex education in our countries, hence why we are so backwards and have a childish attitude towards both.
#8
Posted 21 April 2007 - 01:54 PM
Again, totally agree with you on the medical care thing there. Smokers shouldn't be given medical care more than once, smoking is bad. THEY WRITE ON THE BLOODY BOXES: SMOKING KILLS!
I also don't touch anything but alcohol, and I don't drink masses of the stuff, it isn't damaging my body because I don't abuse it. I drink beer because I like the taste, not to get so drunk I pass out/vomit/wake up 3 days later in a ditch in New Zealand. Smoking is a really horrid habit, can't wait for the smoking in public places ban!
Hybrid: yes, we definitely need a good does of proper education. People need to know exactly what these chemicals can do.
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#9
Posted 21 April 2007 - 02:12 PM
#10
Posted 22 April 2007 - 04:43 AM
This is the place where all the junkies go, where time gets fast but everything gets slow.
I'll get to the moon if I have to crawl.
The problem with any government is that it eventually attracts politicians.
#11
Posted 25 April 2007 - 11:46 AM
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#12
Posted 25 April 2007 - 12:11 PM
No higher than any other drug, I should think.Good points there Paradox, I suppose if they were legalised then the age limit would have to be high...
The damage a car going at 40mph can do to a person's body is staggering.but still, some of these drugs are really really horrible. They might not harm others directly, but the damage they can do to a persons body is staggering. That's why some should be illegal, and should remain illegal, they are terrible, unpleasant things.
I don't believe the government should have any right to tell me what substances I can or cannot put into my own body, no matter HOW damaging they are. I don't like living in a nanny state, although I already do.
The flip side of the coin is why do they bother to have tobacco smoking as legal? As people have already said, it's more addictive and more damaging in the long-term than heroin and cocaine. If it's so dangerous, why don't they make it illegal? Fucking double-standard hypocritical nanny states, that's why. The government makes exorbitant tax out of every single pack of cigs that is sold. So too would they on any mind-altering substance that was sold if they made them legal and simply stuck tax on them. Either way, everyone loses, government wins.
I don't take most drugs or smoke as a choice thing, not because the government says I can't. If I wanted to score some E's, I'm sure I could get hold of them. I go to fucking uni, for christ's sake.
I do agree that people should be properly educated - "drugs are bad mmkay" is not sufficient education. Telling people what each drug actually does to your body is. If you do that at a fairly young age and then a 'booster' course at secondary, then the actual number of drug abusers if you retailed them would actually remain no different than they are today, if not would decline.
#13
Posted 25 April 2007 - 05:28 PM
Nuff said. its just becaause alcohol and smoking is considered socially acceptable.
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#14
Posted 25 April 2007 - 09:08 PM
Things like cigarettes are so deeply ingrained in our culture that they can't be removed. It wouldn't work. Cigarettes aren't illegal for all the reasons pot shouldn't be, as well. I'm generally not that big a fan of the governments, but I don't think that the main reason cigs aren't legal is for the tax money. And prohibition of alcohol has failed in every single country it has ever been tried in. The only country I know it's still active is Saudi Arabia. When my dad was there for a business trip, he was offered alcohol at every household.
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#15
Posted 25 April 2007 - 11:10 PM
#16
Posted 25 April 2007 - 11:54 PM
Living in a small college/arts town, there is a hell load of pot around. Most people I know have smoked it, and a bunch smoke it regularly. It's never seemed like that big a deal to me, less so than drinking.
This is the place where all the junkies go, where time gets fast but everything gets slow.
I'll get to the moon if I have to crawl.
The problem with any government is that it eventually attracts politicians.
#17
Posted 27 April 2007 - 07:54 AM
What other reason can there be? Cigs are as harmful if not more so than any other drug you can think of. When other drugs have been an issue in the past, they just made 'em illegal. Think cocaine. At one point less than 200 years ago, coke was legal, gin was not.I'm generally not that big a fan of the governments, but I don't think that the main reason cigs aren't legal is for the tax money
In ten years this had changed.
So, I really don't see what argument you can put against any of those drugs being legal (because at one point they have been - Queen Victoria was a known pothead).
Let it be said that I don't condone the USE of the drugs - I just believe people should have freedom to choose how they ruin their bodies.
#18
Posted 27 April 2007 - 10:56 AM
BTW, i dont smoke, i dont have enough money for that
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 12:15 PM
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#20
Posted 27 April 2007 - 07:14 PM
This is the place where all the junkies go, where time gets fast but everything gets slow.
I'll get to the moon if I have to crawl.
The problem with any government is that it eventually attracts politicians.
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