The "Prime" Subject.

Right... i'm sure alot of you probably would never of expected a thread like this from the likes of this me. Especially because of alot of the bullshit that was involved in the past conserning Prime was quite offencive to me and other people such as Mad. However due to recent events i feel that he should get ONE last chance... and i emphasise the "ONE".

I don't expect him to be given any special treatment, but i feel that the C&C community could use a little kick up the arse atm and Prime should be able to assist with that. I think that it will benifit people such as Hogo if Prime wasn't as restricted here conserning guest post. It's bad enough having Guest randomly posting in the Editing area as it is

The first sign of any insulting or slipups then that would be it for him... no more chances, no more help and he can burn in some lava type stuff after i have personally broken his legs.



I will leave this up to you to decide. But i feel that this should be looked at.

This subject has been discussed recently among the staff of the network. Prime got banned again recently for evading a ban. Honestly, I don't care if he is banned or not, but there are other people here who still wants him banned. We gave him a lot of chances already. On all of these chances, he said he was changed and he would behave better. It usually took few hours or one day until his mask falls.

This Doesnt seem to be looking good Sigh Looks like this isn't going to happen

The problem with Prime is that he comes here for his own interests, at the expense of everyone else's. He promises he'll be good, then breaks the promise a few days later after he got what he came for. Then the process just repeats itself, and it has already done so a few times. It's pretty obvious he's up to no good but his own, as he clearly shows a disregard for the feelings of everyone else. 'Love me or hate me, I'm here to stay.' is pretty clear in that aspect - he stays because he wants to get his fix, not because anyone else wants him here.

Just don't ever unban Prime. He's a jerk and no one likes him or enjoys his company.

Actually... i honestly didn't know most of this information. Infact the only the only real indepth thing i really knew about was the cancer comment that he made towards me, several Pre-RA2 moments and a few things that had been said behind closed doors.

And i am... i dunno very appauled and quite disgusted at myself for even thinking about giving him another fucking chance But yet again i've only had part of the information delivered to me... so i'm sorry for even touching this subject people :(

It seems i must of been sympathetic or something towards the little prick, but after reading that information i can assure you that i totally retract that bloody request... no bastard should have another chance after saying things like that and he'd better not come across me in what little or long lifetime i do have left cause i can assure you that he will lose his legs


Hmm... all i can say really is soz to you all, especially you MadHQ I feel somewhat two-face now which was the last thing i wanted to be...



So might i suggest that we lock this topic and NOT speak of this little bastard anymore. And Hogo, might i suggest that you too avoid him. Now you see what sort of prick he can be, i'll bloody teach you what little i know rather than you hang around or associate with that "thing".

Edited by Xeno, 12 June 2007 - 06:12 PM.

And on that note. +1

Actually... i honestly didn't know most of this information. Infact the only the only real indepth thing i really knew about was the cancer comment that he made towards me, several Pre-RA2 moments and a few things that had been said behind closed doors.

And i am... i dunno very appauled and quite disgusted at myself for even thinking about giving him another fucking chance But yet again i've only had part of the information delivered to me... so i'm sorry for even touching this subject people :(

It seems i must of been sympathetic or something towards the little prick, but after reading that information i can assure you that i totally retract that bloody request... no bastard should have another chance after saying things like that and he'd better not come across me in what little or long lifetime i do have left cause i can assure you that he will lose his legs


Hmm... all i can say really is soz to you all, especially you MadHQ I feel somewhat two-face now which was the last thing i wanted to be...



So might i suggest that we lock this topic and NOT speak of this little bastard anymore. And Hogo, might i suggest that you too avoid him. Now you see what sort of prick he can be, i'll bloody teach you what little i know rather than you hang around or associate with that "thing".

I would rather not you waste your time on me i am not worth your remaining time Xeno.

Whoa, nevermind, don't unban the fucker, he must stay in the pits of hell. Anyone who calls Xeno a tumor deserves to get a tumor themselves. Had I known that Prime/Legion/BrianPrime were the same person, I wouldn't have asked for his unbanning.

Dude, Hogo, don't talk like that, he might as well teach you, so he passes on his knowledge, in the unlikely event that he does not beat cancer's ass with an uglystick again.

Edited by Nology5890, 12 June 2007 - 07:06 PM.

Dunno why it was that Xeno thought to see fit to unban him but hey. Let's all remain calm - the momentary lapse of reason has ended now. =)

I thought of unbanning Prime because of my forgetfulness to take my pills that day, combined with his voluntary multiple-personality disorder.

I understand that but he has many more important things to do that teach a kid to do something Get my point Even if he was to pass it on he should choose someone a lot better than me.

Edited by hogo, 12 June 2007 - 07:48 PM.

You know, to be truly great at something, someone should stop thinking that their own work is mediocre. Heck, I couldn't voxel worth a crap, and I made a pretty faithful recreation of a POW truck from Generals, by hand (Though a copy of said voxel is no longer in existence, I believe)! Even if you think you aren't worthy, you have to leave that up to the mentor to determine.

You know, to be truly great at something, someone should stop thinking that their own work is mediocre. Heck, I couldn't voxel worth a crap, and I made a pretty faithful recreation of a POW truck from Generals, by hand (Though a copy of said voxel is no longer in existence, I believe)! Even if you think you aren't worthy, you have to leave that up to the mentor to determine.

Wise words

You know what, I'm on Prime's side and I agree we do need to be kicked up the arse. Despite the fact he may have been an asshole previously and in many cases still us, he can contribute to the community and maybe being an ass with help make the community "grow up" in term of all the newbs (being an ass is not immature... being nice 100% of the time is simply annoying and people should be way less sensitive).

People like Prime never change. Enough said.

You know what, I'm on Prime's side and I agree we do need to be kicked up the arse. Despite the fact he may have been an asshole previously and in many cases still us, he can contribute to the community and maybe being an ass with help make the community "grow up" in term of all the newbs (being an ass is not immature... being nice 100% of the time is simply annoying and people should be way less sensitive).

Infant I have to Agree here although he may have done things to you guys i know its not nice but as bolt said everyone is an ass Hes just a much bigger one ( No Offense Prime ) You all probably think its only because i have not seen what he has done wrong but i know hes done wrong and i wish he would at least say sorry for what hes done but i think he deserves 1 chance like this thread STARTED off As. Please Think About it IF You don't Who will No one thats who hes even offered to teach me to SHP's If Thats not Nice i don't know what is.

Speech Over

The problem with Prime is that he comes here for his own interests, at the expense of everyone else's. He promises he'll be good, then breaks the promise a few days later after he got what he came for. Then the process just repeats itself, and it has already done so a few times. It's pretty obvious he's up to no good but his own, as he clearly shows a disregard for the feelings of everyone else. 'Love me or hate me, I'm here to stay.' is pretty clear in that aspect - he stays because he wants to get his fix, not because anyone else wants him here.

That's not really true. I don't like modding RA2 that much, but I used to like doing it a lot and I started one, and I wont let myself stop making PreRA2 because there are several people who really want it to be released.
I really don't like how you think I am only here for my own selfish reasons. I truly care for the community and while I don't exactly embrace everyone here with open arms, I don't want the community to diminish, and that is why I continue modding and pass my abilities on to other people, like Hogo.

Actually... i honestly didn't know most of this information. Infact the only the only real indepth thing i really knew about was the cancer comment that he made towards me, several Pre-RA2 moments and a few things that had been said behind closed doors.

-Sure there was other information, I guess if you consider comments that are up to 3 years old information. Times change, and so do people. Maybe I'm a person. I'm quite positive that I am...

And i am... i dunno very appauled and quite disgusted at myself for even thinking about giving him another fucking chance But yet again i've only had part of the information delivered to me... so i'm sorry for even touching this subject people :(

-You had all the information that mattered "delivered" to you. Basing your opinions on things said long ago , up to 3 years ago is not something you should do. I was 12 at that point, now I am 15. Don't people mature with age? I think so.

It seems i must of been sympathetic or something towards the little prick, but after reading that information i can assure you that i totally retract that bloody request... no bastard should have another chance after saying things like that and he'd better not come across me in what little or long lifetime i do have left cause i can assure you that he will lose his legs

-Current information and oppinions are truly all that matter. I can see clearly the ways I have changed over time, and many agree that yes, I am a different person now. Why don't you see that? It has been 3 years, and the majority of the crap MadHQ posted was from at least a year ago. I was a pale geek with few friends, surely that is a good enough explanation for why I said what I did?

Hmm... all i can say really is soz to you all, especially you MadHQ I feel somewhat two-face now which was the last thing i wanted to be...

-You aren't two-faced, you simply made a topic about 2 people. The person I was, and the person I am now. So if anyone is two-faced, I am. One face at a time maybe, but two nonetheless.

So might i suggest that we lock this topic and NOT speak of this little bastard anymore. And Hogo, might i suggest that you too avoid him. Now you see what sort of prick he can be, i'll bloody teach you what little i know rather than you hang around or associate with that "thing".

-People generally change a lot over years. You have completely changed in a matter of minutes. That is neither the correct way to change, nor is the way in which you did it completely right. As I have said before, much of that crap MadHQ posted is up to 3 years old. That is a lot of time covered between then and now. I urge you to decide for yourself. Whether or not you decide to still hate me after this is your decision, and I can only hope you make the right one. As for Hogo, he can decide as he wants to decide. He knows me as I am now, as should everyone else. Unfortunately they do not, and only try to negatively influence my reputation through outdated facts, and in some situations, lies.

*sigh* I apologize for all this drama. My only request is that we all rethink our opinions based on the latest information and words, and not dwell on such past issues. We all have done wrong things, whether it be breaking our parents windows, or bullying a kid in school, or cursing somebody out (The list goes on, there are many wrongs a person can commit), but weren't we all forgiven?...

That is all for now.
-BrianPrime

NOT MORE THAN 2-3 MOUNTHS AGO YOU SAID ANYONE WHO WAS BI-POLAR SHOULD KILL THEM SELF WITH IODINE.

Somebody doesn't understand a joke.

And I said one person in specific, not "ANYONE". Wow, you messed up twice in one post!

The 'joke' wasn't funny to anybody else. I really don't know how you got unbanned again. What did you say to Sleip "just give me sixty more chances"? I really wouldn't personally have such a gripe with you, Prime, if you didn't habitually pull this kind of shit. No, really, I couldn't care less who you stole shps from back in 2002 or whatever, or for that matter if/when you finish those shps you've been working on since 2002. You're like a bad joke that refuses to die only because idiots repeat it. You come and you go... come and you go... like a drama chameleon.

Edited by Rattuskid, 12 June 2007 - 11:40 PM.