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Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:02 PM

Could one of Thrawn's upgrades be an Executor-class Star Destroyer, I would love to see teh brilliant stratgist having the most powerful star destroyer..... :good:

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:04 PM

Ugh, sorry for the double post, but than again if it's like the whimpy Executor from the regular FOC I would rather prefer the ISD :good:...

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 06:04 PM

I'm planning on giving him the Razor's Kiss.

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 10:31 PM

Hey Pr

Sry if this is annoying but i thought id pose the question, why razors kiss? as far as anyone knows thrawn never commanded a super star destroyer, nor did he like using such tactics prefering to rely on multiple smaller ships than one massive target.

also razors kiss is real difficult to attach to thrawn in any way, if you really want there is a possiblity you could give him in secret the SSD Vengence as its not entirly said to be destroyed, you could say thrawn salvaged it and sent it to the unknown regions to expliore (possiblity) Sorrry just spent the last 1hr after work searchign throuhg wookipedia for you trying to find a duitable ssd but could not find one except vengence.

Waht may be a better idea but not sure if it is possible, maybe is there a way to give thrawn the ability to summon 1 or 2 extra imperial star destroyers? since he liked using small fleets maybe this can be his upgrade, his final upgrade could be the use of summoning another fleet of ships? just an idea.

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 08:48 AM

PR explains it in a news post, Buildable Heroes. Also so far the mod has been based on post Endor what-if situations... I think.

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 11:11 AM

PR explains it in a news post, Buildable Heroes. Also so far the mod has been based on post Endor what-if situations... I think.

i shouldf reallly of read that one all the way throuhgh i think i skimmed it sorry, oh well PR you got a back up idea if you want, was thinking tooo restrictive with the SSD's . Mmmm thinking in that terminology you could always use the Intimidator, from the Black sword Command, if the empire hadnt fallen it is unlkely the yevatha would of gotten their hands on it. IT also says that the empire recaptured it and it found adrift in the unknown regions, could indicate thrawns regime used it. Gives a more Cannocial option wither way you look at it

I need to stop reading now i think its gettigna bit sad the amount of time i spent looking at this lol, am emant to be doing me dissatation lol

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 08:59 PM

Yeah, it's in that news post. Eh, I'll just quote myself:

Haha, that's a really cool picture just to prove your point and canonically, that is how it should go. But there are a few problems for gameplay reasons. For one, going from the Admonitor to the Grey Wolf doesn't really get you anything tangible in return, just a new name. The second issue is that each unique ship can appear only once, so if possible, I have to choose other heroes to command those vessels in cases like Thrawn, where he has three Imperial-class Star Destroyers to pick from. So I've given Thrawn the Admonitor and I'm saving the Chimaera for Pellaeon.

I think the point about the Guardian is interesting though, but I'm not sure I would give him that ship specifically, since it was badly damaged and possibly captured before Thrawn's return from the Unknown Regions. Also it was in warlord hands while Thrawn remained loyal to the Empire.

So we know that most of the dreadnoughts left in the Empire seem to have been recalled to Byss for Operation Shadow Hand, which leaves Thrawn to command from an Imperial II. What's always bothered me though, is that Kuat fell just six months before Thrawn started his campaign - inevitably while he was messing around on Tatooine. Certainly there would have been some dreadnoughts left behind from Shadow Hand to protect Kuat, one of which Thrawn could have acquired for a command ship.

In fact, had Zsinj not attacked it, the Razor's Kiss would have been rolling off the lines right around the time Thrawn would have needed it... and since it was new, Kuat wouldn't have lost anything from its defense fleet. Staffing would have been no problem; Thrawn had clones for that. 178 Dreadnaughts sans slave-rigging would have required a crew total of 2,885,380... which just happens to be in-line with the approximated crew count for a 19-kilometer Executor-class at 3,300,000. And since the Kiss was never actually commissioned, it really isn't associated with anyone else and never will be. So I think it's a pretty safe bet to assume that Thrawn could have acquired it and put it into service; I mean, it just makes too much sense. I'll give that to him as his final upgrade.



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Posted 17 August 2007 - 11:19 PM

In fact, had Zsinj not attacked it, the Razor's Kiss would have been rolling off the lines right around the time Thrawn would have needed it... and since it was new, Kuat wouldn't have lost anything from its defense fleet. Staffing would have been no problem; Thrawn had clones for that. 178 Dreadnaughts sans slave-rigging would have required a crew total of 2,885,380... which just happens to be in-line with the approximated crew count for a 19-kilometer Executor-class at 3,300,000.


So the Razor's Kiss will be an Executor-class Star Destroyer YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (First I was wondering if you would have it a Sovereign-class Star Destroyer, and I kindof wanted Thrawn in an Executor-class Star Destroyer) Also wll the Razor's Kiss be an Executor-X-class Star Destroyer, since the heros with a starfighter in a mini mod had the last upgrade for their starfighter, so isn't it only right, that the great Thrawn would have an Executor-X-class Star Destroyer :good:, up the price 10k to the last upgrade if need be, but I would really like to see his Executor-class Star Destroyer be fully maxed in upgrades.

P.S. Thanks for quoting that, I missed that part of you deciding to make Razor's Kiss an Executor-class Star Destroyer.

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 11:41 PM

Sry if this is annoying but i thought id pose the question, why razors kiss? as far as anyone knows thrawn never commanded a super star destroyer, nor did he like using such tactics prefering to rely on multiple smaller ships than one massive target.


I personally think that Thrawn would of preferred an Executor-class Star Destroyer as his flagship since it would be more firepower and also since he can still have smaller ships with him, but would just have a more powerful ship in his fleet, like for instance, do you think Thrawn would turn down an Executor-class Star Destroyer, I don't think so.

Also I remember Pellaeon thinking to himself what would of happened if Thrawn would of been commanding the Executor in the Battle of Endor...Personally, I think Thrawn would of disobeyed the Emperor's command and engaged the Rebel fleet in full combat and would of defeated them once he saw that the Emperor's plan would loose to many loyal Imperial officers and also would loose many captiol ships and fighters. And, don't say he wouldn't do this, since in the Thrawn Triology, Thrawn even told Joruus Cy'both (Did I spell the last name correctly :good:) that he disobeyed the Emperor's command once when the Emperor told him to take a fleet to attack a system and Thrawn said no because he would not waste valuable resources in a defeat that he knew, the Emperor called him a traitor and gave the command to another commander, later, they Emperor found out that the fleet was destroyed from that battle, and then the Emperor always listened to Thrawn after that. Ok, got a little carried away with just staying of how Pellaeon of wondering what would happen at the Battle of Endor if Thrawn was encharge...

So back to subject...


Now anyways, I dobut that Thrawn wouldn't want an Executor-class Star Destroyer as his flagship.

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 11:42 PM

sorry for double (ugh, now triple)post btw

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 12:10 AM

Also wll the Razor's Kiss be an Executor-X-class Star Destroyer

It will be the highest upgrade like any of the others, whatever that may be.

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Posted 20 August 2007 - 09:52 AM

10 versions of an Executor class would be a lot of xml work :)
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 10:45 AM

Speaking of Pellaeon, what would he get after Thrawn upgrades to Razor's Kiss?
Presumably as Thrawn's second in command, would he get something more powerful?

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Posted 20 August 2007 - 06:06 PM

10 versions of an Executor class would be a lot of xml work :rolleyes:

It's really the model work that's the biggest pain.

Speaking of Pellaeon, what would he get after Thrawn upgrades to Razor's Kiss?
Presumably as Thrawn's second in command, would he get something more powerful?

Huh? They're two distinct characters.

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Posted 20 August 2007 - 08:17 PM

Btw, when you get to land, will Thrawn have Rukh as his body guard?

Hehe, can't wait for the next mod release, Thrawn and just a couple of heroes instead of all of the heroes. Will also make the game more interesting :rolleyes:

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 04:20 AM

Btw, when you get to land, will Thrawn have Rukh as his body guard?

He might.

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 10:03 AM

Will Rukh be able kill Thrawn? lol

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 04:27 AM

Will Rukh be able kill Thrawn? lol


Nooooooo, I don't want Rukh to kill a hero I upgrade all the way, if he will be able to kill Thrawn than can we kill Rukh first...

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 08:30 AM

Will Rukh be able kill Thrawn? lol


Nooooooo, I don't want Rukh to kill a hero I upgrade all the way, if he will be able to kill Thrawn than can we kill Rukh first...

mmm you never know what if the rebels captured honogur (def spelt that wrong ) that could allow for the assasination of thrawn. Same could be said for the empire caturing yavin 4 capturing jan dadonna , thogh i think that would be pretty hard to script into game lol

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 08:52 AM

I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting tired of seeing all these "guest" posts everywhere. Show yourself!



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