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Posted 11 December 2007 - 06:12 PM
here you see what is going on in North Korea.Its insane.The world leaders should do something.North Korea is one of worlds last comunist country.My country was comunist but here the dictator was shooted.
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 06:31 PM
You've been lied to. Romania was never communist, neither is North Korea.
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 06:36 PM
As far as I'm informed, no country has ever reached "real communism" (by which I mean Marxism)...
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 06:53 PM
Real communism can never be achieved, the human race cannot work as a hive, some people are always there to take advantage of the system.
"Communism" therefore becomes synonymous with dictatorship to me. They use the lulls of equality to get themselves into power then they will do everything in the power given to them to maintain that indefinitely.
"Communism" therefore becomes synonymous with dictatorship to me. They use the lulls of equality to get themselves into power then they will do everything in the power given to them to maintain that indefinitely.
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 07:13 PM
Elerium at least you can understand.
Its not about countries,about politics its about people
Its not about countries,about politics its about people
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 07:54 PM
Id say kill him, he needs to be removed. those people are suffering under his iron rule...
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 11:38 PM
You people...
You CAN'T just go around KILLING world leaders!
You CAN'T just go around KILLING world leaders!
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 12:13 AM
Sadly Spence is right. Morally it'b be noble and just for the world to invade N Korea and solve it but China would never allow it. China could solve this quick by demanding some reforms or shutting off the BIG valve. They don't care TBH. I'd have to say I can't think of a worse place in the world to live in right now.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 08:57 AM
Give me 38 good reasons why not
10 + 18 = 28, Hostilehttp://forums.revora...p...st&p=546172
Here's 10, all you need is 18 more.
/serious thread.
I also think Spence's post in that topic does a pretty good job at explaining how all the points that you posted are just propagandist doublespeak, amirite?
Edited by Blodo, 12 December 2007 - 08:58 AM.
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:22 AM
Yes, i and others did overreacted a bit. but you to admit, that way of life is not right, even if it is their choice. sometimes another country has to change it for their own good.
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:46 AM
Except forcing that change by killing them all instead isn't quite the way to go. If the muslims suddenly decided that they are going to "liberate" the western world from their barbaric ways (as they do in fact believe that the western world is barbaric) it wouldn't be one iota better than what is happening right now in Iraq, Afghanistan and possibly Iran soon.
Nobody can change a nation that doesn't want to change, unless they plan on exterminating the lot of them. In which case they are no better than Hitler and his final solution.
Nobody can change a nation that doesn't want to change, unless they plan on exterminating the lot of them. In which case they are no better than Hitler and his final solution.
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 05:03 PM
nothing new about assassinating and backstabbing people, but you rarely have foreign forces take out the head man. its easier to try to take out his close companions. the problem is that NK is a very nice little fortress of old friends that rarely add new members to their power-pyramid.
basically, you don't assassinate bosses of such countries because that will just cause some other loonie to take over. it has to be done by the people themselves and there has to be a will to change. thats not really a thing you will see in NK.
consider what assassinating Bush would cause for the presidential elections. mr huckelberry or whatever his name is would prolly win straight away, or John mcCain could win and then just continue with what bush has done for the last 8 years. that would be nice wouldnt it?
basically, you don't assassinate bosses of such countries because that will just cause some other loonie to take over. it has to be done by the people themselves and there has to be a will to change. thats not really a thing you will see in NK.
consider what assassinating Bush would cause for the presidential elections. mr huckelberry or whatever his name is would prolly win straight away, or John mcCain could win and then just continue with what bush has done for the last 8 years. that would be nice wouldnt it?
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:01 PM
well we should all think what we could make for them
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:16 PM
My reply is in that thread sir. Yes my math was off by 10, so shoot me.Give me 38 good reasons why not
10 + 18 = 28, Hostilehttp://forums.revora...p...st&p=546172
Here's 10, all you need is 18 more.
/serious thread.
I also think Spence's post in that topic does a pretty good job at explaining how all the points that you posted are just propagandist doublespeak, amirite?
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:23 PM
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 06:27 PM
Killing Kim or having China demand reforms isn't going to do anything. Everything in that country is so screwed up that it'll take decades for them to really get back on their feet. They have basically no infrastructure, no agriculture, no NGO's that I know of to help fix the problem...
What's dumb is that the rest of the world seems to think that dumbing a couple million tons of fuel oil into the country is actually going to help the people in the DPRK. All that does is let Kim maintain his rule a little while longer.
And even if/when Kim loses power, what happens then? Millions of NK refugees would just flee the country into SK or China. That's bad for all three countries.
What's dumb is that the rest of the world seems to think that dumbing a couple million tons of fuel oil into the country is actually going to help the people in the DPRK. All that does is let Kim maintain his rule a little while longer.
And even if/when Kim loses power, what happens then? Millions of NK refugees would just flee the country into SK or China. That's bad for all three countries.
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 08:06 PM
Well, after seening the videos. i can not see why the world lets this happen, it really pisses me off...
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Posted 15 December 2007 - 07:48 AM
thats the idea.
Now what is democracy about?
power to the people
the people choose they're president,parlament etc.
and why wouldnt the peope say that there is a big problem and it should be resolved.
Now what is democracy about?
power to the people
the people choose they're president,parlament etc.
and why wouldnt the peope say that there is a big problem and it should be resolved.
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Posted 15 December 2007 - 08:33 AM
Yeah seen that on TV, they're indoctrinated from birth to death.
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