Units

Hi guys though I'm new at here I have been watching on the development of this game for quite a time, I truly can't wait for you guys to release the Beta release. I have been testing the Alpha series and I quite enjoy them, though some improvements may be done, its already great. So here are some of my suggestion, hope you like it:

OMNI Enforcers:
You said guys that you are already working on the space station upgrades, here are possible upgrades for the units too:
Ships:
Agamemnon Class: reduce its firepower for its only a carrier class, and increase it carrying capacity to 4.
Level 1 Space Station: carries Moebius
Level 2 Space Station: carries Strike Dagger
Level 3 Space Station: carries Dagger
Level 4 Space Station: carries Dagger L.
Level 5 Space Station: carries Windam
Nelson Class: increase it firepower and durability in the field, also add 2 unit to carry.
Level 1 Space Station: carries Moebius
Level 2 Space Station: carries Strike Dagger
Level 3 Space Station: carries Dagger
Level 4 Space Station: carries Dagger L.
Level 5 Space Station: carries Windam
Drake Class: increase durability in the field and add 1 unit to carry
Level 1 Space Station: carries Moebius
Level 2 Space Station: carries Strike Dagger
Level 3 Space Station: carries Dagger
Level 4 Space Station: carries Dagger L.
Level 5 Space Station: carries Windam
Mobile Units
Moebius: decrease it's firepower, should be weaker than a Ginn, and cheaper than it. Upon reaching level 4 space station
remove moebius.
Strike Dagger: already great no improvements any longer. But it would be the main unit of the Alliance and would be
replaced upon upgrading the space station.
Level 2 Space Station: Strike Dagger
Level 3 Space Station: Dagger
Level 4 Space Station: Dagger L.
Level 5 Space Station: Windam
Euclid: a huge mobile armor, that would replace mobieus upon reaching level 4 space station. Has a powerful shield and
strong against ships, though a little slower.
Zamzah-zah: a huge mobile armor, that would be available upon reaching level 4 space station. Has a powerful shield and
could equalize the power of a mobile suit, though a little slower.
Gells-ghe:a huge mobile armor, that would be available upon reaching level 5 space station. Has a powerful shield and
could equalize the power of a mobile suit, though a little slower. Main feature would be able t protect other units.
Mobieus Zero: already great offers superior firepower than an ordinary mobieus as seen in the show. Would be replace by
Level 3 Space Station: Gunbarrel
Level 4 Space Station: Exass
Level 5 Space Station: Exass
Destroy Gundam: ultimate mobile unit in the OMNI Enforcer arsenal. Offers complete heavy weapons and shielding, can
stand alone in a battle, though very slow.
Heroes:
Girty Lue: A stealth class battle cruiser of the Alliance. Offering powerful firepower and carrying capability. Main ability would
be to it's Mirage Colloid that makes in invisible for a short period of time.
Neo's Windam: piloted by Neo Roanoke, it offers superior ability than all other ordinary mobile suit.
Calamity Gundam: heavy artillary class mobile suit, main ability is to increase it firepower at the cost of its speed.
Raider Gundam: high speed model ideal for hit and run strategy, offering a well balance armaments, main ability is it's beam
cannon at it's mouth.
Forbidden Gundam: high speed model, main ability is its Mirage Colloid shielding.
Dominion: same as Archangel, offers powerful armaments and carrying ability.

ZAFT Forces
You said guys that you are already working on the space station upgrades, here are possible upgrades for the units too:
Ships:
Gondwana Class: supercarrier of ZAFT Forces, offers a very large number of mobile suits, though a little slow and weak.
Level 1 Space Station: carries Ginn
Level 2 Space Station: carries GuiAiz
Level 3 Space Station: carries GuiAiz R.
Level 4 Space Station: carries Zaku
Level 5 Space Station: carries Gouf Ignited
Nazca Class: increase speed of model, and increase it carrying capacity to 4.
Level 1 Space Station: carries Ginn
Level 2 Space Station: carries GuiAiz
Level 3 Space Station: carries GuiAiz R.
Level 4 Space Station: carries Zaku
Level 5 Space Station: carries Gouf Ignited
Laurasia Class: already great, no improvements any longer
Level 1 Space Station: carries Ginn
Level 2 Space Station: carries GuiAiz
Level 3 Space Station: carries GuiAiz R.
Level 4 Space Station: carries Zaku
Level 5 Space Station: carries Gouf Ignited

Mobile Units
Ginn: increase firepower, should be stronger than moebius, and much expensive than it. It would be the main unit of the
ZAFT and would be replaced upon upgrading the space station.
Level 2 Space Station: carries GuiAiz
Level 3 Space Station: carries GuiAiz R.
Level 4 Space Station: carries Zaku
Level 5 Space Station: carries Gouf Ignited
Heroes:
Minerva: powerful unit offering a well balance of weapons and carrying capacity.

Guys I hope you like it and think about it... I'll add some more info later part.

Pritty close to the actually gameplan there.

Oh really, well I hope that really happens, and mobile suits must be much expensive than mobile armor just saying it again...

Zamazah and Gelles-geh are most certainly more expensive than a mobile suit. They are mobile armor.

Yes Dark Lord Revan, these models are much expensive for their superior durability in the field because of the shield, but are mainly used only as a support unit and not as a main assault model.

And about the dragoon system, I suggest that you follow the style of Darth Vader's Tie Fighter. Make it's Tie Fighter escort as its Dragoon System for all units which has it.

Edited by Lord Djibril, 18 January 2008 - 02:10 PM.

Ahem, i was referring to your comment that mobile armor should be cheaper than mobile suits. Im just pointing out that thats not always the case.

I refute that the Zamazah is a support unit. It is used as a mobile shield unit yes, but its weaponry suggest a full assualt style unit.

I agree, most of the EAF's Mobile Armor units, as least as we've seen from ths show, pretty much went out on their own and killed everything, or tried to, as they were intended for.


Hmm, I think the Gondwana Class is a bit off though, since it didnt exist during the era of Seed? should't it start off as a post-Destiny Plan era unit?


I mean that's pretty much when we first saw it in the show.

Alright may be these models are shielded and assault class, but they must not be as so strong for already have the shield system that will make it hare to bing down.

And here is my suggestion in the land units
OMNI Enforcer:

Ships
Hannibal Class: Main Ground Carrier of the OMNI Enforcer, offers powerful weapons and the Destroy Gundam.

Mobile units:
Spearhead: main Level 1 air unit of the Alliance, offers no superiority to any unit.
Level 2: Skygrasper
Level 3: Skygrasper
Level 4: Skygrasper
Level 5: Skygrasper
Linear Tank: main ground unit of the Alliance, cheaper and inferior than Ginn
Level 2: Strike Dagger
Level 3: Dagger
Level 4: Dagger L.
Level 5: Windam
Missile Buggy- ground support the Alliance, cheaper and inferior to mobile suits.
Level 2: Linear Artillary
Level 3: Buster Dagger
Level 4: Dagger L. Doppelhorn mode
Level 5: Windam Doppelhorn mode
Gell-ghe- powerful ground unit, intended for defending bases and ships. Offers good damage and powerful shield.
Zamzah-zah- powerful air unit, intended as a support unit and with powerful shield.
Euclid: powerful unit with a powerful shielding, expensive and can be considered as a front line unit.
Destroy Gundam- most powerful unit in the OMNI Enforcer arsenal. Offers a powerful shielding.

ZAFT
Ships:
Lesseps Class: secondary ground ship of the ZAFT Forces offers minimal weapons and carrying ability.
Compton Class: main ground ship of the ZAFT Force, offers powerful weapons and carrying ability.
Gondwana: super carrier class of the ZAFT Force, offers weak weapon but powerful carrying capacity

Gondwana is out of place here, its definitely space only. Speaking of which, both the gelsghe and zamazah MA are space/land units.

Pritty good, i only have a few nitpicks. One would still be the issue of EAF's super MAs. You could just make them high cost/long build times, to balance, tho ive seen in other mods how that kind of balancing goes awry.

EAF has one more amphibious MA, mass-produced. The name eludes me for now, and i cant be bothered to check mahq.

Deep Forbidden?

The Gondwana super carrier can also move in the earth according to what I read. While for naval force I haven't suggested for it is still a theory for people to create unit in the sea.

ZAFT
Ground Units:
Ginn: expensive and superior to linear tanks, main ground unit of ZAFT Force
ZAFT and would be replaced upon upgrading the space station.
Level 2: GuiAiz
Level 3: GuiAiz R.
Level 4: Zaku
Level 5: Gouf Ignited
ZuOOT: main support heavy artillery of ZAFT Force
Level 4: GAZuOOT
Level 5: GAZuOOT
Dinn: main air unit of ZAFT Force, expensive and superior to Spearhead.
Level 4: BABI
Level 5: BABI
BuCUE: High speed mobile unit, superior to linear tank.
Level 4: LaGOWE
Level 5: LaGOWE

Nuetral Units:
M1 Astray: Orb Union main force, superior to Ginn and Strike Dagger.
Level 4: M1 Astray Shrike
Level 5: M1 Astray Shrike
Murasame: superior to all mobile suits, expensive, transformable unit.
Izumo Class: powerful unit offering a well balance carrying capacity and firepower.

Super weapons Suggestion:
OMNI Enforcer:
Operation Elvis: calls upon the Peacemaker Force sending a nuclear strike to a given area.
Requiem: ultimate weapon in the OMNI Enforcer arsenal.

ZAFT:
Neo Genesis: destroys anything in its line of fire.
Deploy N-Jammer: jams the radar of the enemy making them vulnerable.

Possible upgrades:
OMNI Enforcer:
Positron Shield: arms the Drake Class with a positron shield making it much durable and able to protect other units
Intelligence Operation: acquires N-Jammer Cancler making all unit much stronger and durable.
Striker Packs: allows the GAT Series to change its weapons.

ZAFT:
N-Jammer Cancler- allows all unit to be strenghten
Silhouette Pack- allows the ZAKU models to change its armaments.

Edited by Lord Djibril, 20 January 2008 - 08:21 AM.

Ah no i just checked. Its the euclid, quite a powerful mass-P, even though it didnt get much screen time. Amphibious and space capable, a gatling cannon, two beam cannons and a positron reflector. Massed produced....scary. If EAF had more time to build these...

Anyway, i dont consider forbidden to have a true MA mode.

As for the gondwana...er....its 1.2 km long. And its pretty much a box, so the length is deceptive, its massive. Alot of complications come into play just try try reentry with it. I doubt it can support itself in gravity. I havent read anything anywhere that suggests its land capable either.

I have already describe the Euclid man in my list of mobile units. And yes it is considered as a frontline mobile unit, capable of matching a mobile suit, but is expensive so longer to create than other units but has a strong durability in the field.

Actually, for the ZAFT forces, didnt they have a super heavy land carrier class base weapon thing? It appeared during the Destroy Gundam fight thing, but got blown to bits from 1 shot by the Destroy.

Ive been wondering about that one. It doesnt seem to show up anywhere on the net. Anyway, its either a battleship we havent seen before, or its a fortress that ZAFT erected complete with guns and ms.

Guys that large unit destroyed by the Destroy Gundam was the Compton ground carrier of the ZAFT Forces. Its counterpart in the OMNI Enforcer is the Hannibal ground carrier of the Alliance.

Ah yes thats right. My bad, i got confused with the lesseps class land battleship. Which i in turn sometimes get confused with the petries class land cruiser. So, clrification, the compton actually, is a land battleship. It doesnt carry many more MS than a lesseps. The hannibal is a proper carrier tho, being able to store a destroy. i noticed that the hannibal only has token point defense weaponry, while the compton has quite a number of guns.

Hmm, it would be nice for us to include these guys in the mod, on the other hand, have we ever gotten a really good look at them? lol


Well, the Hannibal we saw a bit more of, especially in Stargazer.

Well that is true, the Hannibal we see many times, but the Compton class we also saw it in Gundam Seed, it was the one being attacked by Cagali with her Skygrasper. If you would look at it, the Compton is much well armed and carrying capacity but the Hannibal's purpose in the other hand was solely to carry a Destroy Gundam along with soime Windam units.

Ah no, the one in gundam seed that cags attacked was a lesseps class battleship. I should noe, i watched those eps enough. They used to air them on a special mobile channel that i could watch on the public bus.

Which is why i often mix em up.