If CaH is removed what would become of the already designed heroes one would have made? Would they be lost as well?
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Posted 13 February 2009 - 03:53 PM
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 01:06 AM
i dont think the actual files for your already-made create-a-heroes would be lost, just unusable when running the mod. you would still be able to use them if running the un-modded version as far as i know. if we were to take them out, however, we would likely put in a few heros (similar to the way ea provides a few for you) so that you could still make use of the system.
keep in mind everyone, that this is a last-resort. we are not by any means itching to get rid of the cah system; it will only be done if absolutely necessary.
keep in mind everyone, that this is a last-resort. we are not by any means itching to get rid of the cah system; it will only be done if absolutely necessary.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 04:01 PM
In my opinion create-a-heroes must stay, sometimes it is fun to play with them. In fact even if you don"t want to use them, you just don"t do it. CAHs are just for fun.
Now there is a problem. I can"t use CAHs with MOTE, Rohan, Arnor. Would be nice if fixed.
CAHs are not Tolkienish but I am used to play with them(and without as well).
Now there is a problem. I can"t use CAHs with MOTE, Rohan, Arnor. Would be nice if fixed.
CAHs are not Tolkienish but I am used to play with them(and without as well).
Edited by Anri1, 03 April 2009 - 04:02 PM.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 04:43 PM
As said before, the only reason why we would have to remove CAH is because the game only has a specific number of 'upgrades' and CaH uses a lot of those 'upgrades'. And when there's something to add to the mod, but there's not enough upgrades, CAH will probably be the first thing to get axed.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 08:10 PM
there is nothing we can do about arnor, mote, and rohan not having cah's, the game only allows the default factions to have them.
i believe that if you press the first letter of the name of the hero you want to use when choosing heros, it should let you use that one. not entirely positive though as i have not tried it myself.
i believe that if you press the first letter of the name of the hero you want to use when choosing heros, it should let you use that one. not entirely positive though as i have not tried it myself.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 10:44 PM
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:56 PM
It is great 
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"Sons of Gondor, of Rohan, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails…. When we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day! An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the age of Men comes crashing down. But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!"-King Ellessar
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 09:44 PM
I'd hate to see CAH removed, but if there's no other option.
I think that with those heroes the player could add a personal flavor to the battle.
But I might have a suggestion:
Before I played the BFME II pc version, I played the 360 version.
In that version there was no create a hero mode, but you could unlock several heroes by getting achievements.
So instead of using CAH's you could make some premade heroes.
Now for people who think that somthing like that would conflict with lore and stuff, you could use characters from other LOTR installments like:
Berethor, Idrial, Hadhod, Eodon, Elegost, Morwen (All from LOTR the third age, some of them were default CAH's, but if you remake them please give hem the skills they really had, Idrial was a sorceress, not an archer!)
Melkor (or something, the guy that fought tom Bombadil and featured in "the one ring to rule them all" www.legendaryfrog.com)
Some of the surviving dwarves from "The Hobbit"
Smaug?
Perhaps you could even give every hero a different Perk.
Like if you choose Imharill, you can train some type of extra unit.
Or if you choose a dwarf, you're faction will be able too built some sort of mineshaft.
Just throwing up a ball here.
I think that with those heroes the player could add a personal flavor to the battle.
But I might have a suggestion:
Before I played the BFME II pc version, I played the 360 version.
In that version there was no create a hero mode, but you could unlock several heroes by getting achievements.
So instead of using CAH's you could make some premade heroes.
Now for people who think that somthing like that would conflict with lore and stuff, you could use characters from other LOTR installments like:
Berethor, Idrial, Hadhod, Eodon, Elegost, Morwen (All from LOTR the third age, some of them were default CAH's, but if you remake them please give hem the skills they really had, Idrial was a sorceress, not an archer!)
Melkor (or something, the guy that fought tom Bombadil and featured in "the one ring to rule them all" www.legendaryfrog.com)
Some of the surviving dwarves from "The Hobbit"
Smaug?
Perhaps you could even give every hero a different Perk.
Like if you choose Imharill, you can train some type of extra unit.
Or if you choose a dwarf, you're faction will be able too built some sort of mineshaft.
Just throwing up a ball here.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 05:14 PM
Just to add my voice to the masses here, but I believe CaH should stay as it adds a little bit extra to the game. As was said, you DO have the option to 'not allow CaH characters' in the game. As for this most excellent mod, I have thuroughly enjoyed the mod since I downloaded it, my husband and I both play it alot. Being as there are very few female heroes in the game, and that I play as Gondor and Arnor quite often, my CaH is my pixelated representation of myself in game when I lead my armies in battle against my dreaded Orc Warleader of a Husband. ;P
Though I am a bit bummed by the fact the woman 'shield maiden' can not wear a White Tree Gondor Tunic like the 'Man of the West' can. IMO I think the appearance schematics should be the same for men and women toons. I would like to see men and women of the west have the ability to toggle weapons from bow's to two handed swords like Faramir the Hero can, and the female Elven Archer CaH. Sometimes I just like to draw my big mother of a sword and wade into those orcs all close and personal like, know what I mean ?
I'm sure you have alot on your plate Rob, but if you decide to ever tinker with the CaH System and give it a revamp, thought I'd give you a couple idea's Id like to see. (Stated above.)
But to end this, yes, Id like to see the CaH system stay.
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Though I am a bit bummed by the fact the woman 'shield maiden' can not wear a White Tree Gondor Tunic like the 'Man of the West' can. IMO I think the appearance schematics should be the same for men and women toons. I would like to see men and women of the west have the ability to toggle weapons from bow's to two handed swords like Faramir the Hero can, and the female Elven Archer CaH. Sometimes I just like to draw my big mother of a sword and wade into those orcs all close and personal like, know what I mean ?
I'm sure you have alot on your plate Rob, but if you decide to ever tinker with the CaH System and give it a revamp, thought I'd give you a couple idea's Id like to see. (Stated above.)
But to end this, yes, Id like to see the CaH system stay.
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Dear Robnkarla,
Amileth is right. I have different wording, though. NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REMOVAL!!!!! It will effect your mod the precise same way steroids effect the human body. Create-a-Hero is meant to give factions irresitable opprotunities and works with Gondor , Elves , Dwarves , Arnor (WAAAAAT?), Isengard , Mordor , Goblins , and Angmar (WAAAAAT?). The 4th Good Create-a-Hero should switch to Rohan and the 4th Evil Create-a-Hero should switch to Men of the East. That is the only change needed, other then what the other KEEP IT IN posts reccommend. So, are you going to listen to morally right preaching? Or are you going to tox* your hugely-loved mod in this braindead way? Choose carefully 
Remember the discussion on whether you should make WotR factions have CaH and Arnor and Angmar not? Keep the answer to that question the same in every way to this one's answer: "Yes for perfect time-zone-acknowledging reasons".
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Amileth is right. I have different wording, though. NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REMOVAL!!!!! It will effect your mod the precise same way steroids effect the human body. Create-a-Hero is meant to give factions irresitable opprotunities and works with Gondor
, Elves , Dwarves , Arnor (WAAAAAT?), Isengard , Mordor , Goblins , and Angmar (WAAAAAT?). The 4th Good Create-a-Hero should switch to Rohan and the 4th Evil Create-a-Hero should switch to Men of the East. That is the only change needed, other then what the other KEEP IT IN posts reccommend. So, are you going to listen to morally right preaching? Or are you going to tox* your hugely-loved mod in this braindead way? Choose carefully Remember the discussion on whether you should make WotR factions have CaH and Arnor and Angmar not? Keep the answer to that question the same in every way to this one's answer: "Yes for perfect time-zone-acknowledging reasons".Your Inventiveness Advisor,
KP the "Desert-Lord"
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 01:08 AM
Ax 'em, or the mod's future may be bleak....
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:11 AM
The CAH system takes up a valuable resource called "upgrades". These upgrades determine how much can be added to the game. The CAH system takes up alot of these "upgrades". The CaH system physically limits what the mod can do. So it limits how much rob can add to the factions that have been or will be revamped.
Bascially, keep the CaH, get less of this aweseom mod. Nix the CaH, and get alot more of the awesome mod...
Bascially, keep the CaH, get less of this aweseom mod. Nix the CaH, and get alot more of the awesome mod...
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OOOOOOOOOOPS. I thought this was the perfect mod. How lifeless of me. There's something that makes this one SECOND PLACE.
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 11:25 PM
Hey, fuck you, CaH suck. You probably like it because it's so damn OP. I DESPISE THEM! And plus, you heard Vith, if they stay, RJ won't be good. So all you will have is CaH and a sucky mod. So STFU.
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Sorry 
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. Let''s everybody, just, calm...... down
. I was only joking. If you want to rid the game of Create-a-Hero that's fine. I just want this mod to come out as a perfect 10 is all. I didn't mean to disturb you, Ring of Fate. We can all work together on this mod with creativity and diversity-acceptance, right? . Let''s everybody, just, calm...... down
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 01:34 AM
Sorry, I mean, if I even hear someone say "eh, (insert mod name other than RJ) is better" or something, I flip. Unless it just happens to BE a great mod that is.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 02:56 AM
Hm...CAH uses so many upgrades because there's like...four of every power? Why not just get rid of the upgraded versions and revamp and rebalance the CAH hero power system so that CAHs only get one version of the power instead of it upgrading?
Edited by Gr1m, 22 April 2009 - 02:57 AM.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 04:20 AM
I believe that is one of the possible paths, but if there is still need for upgrades, the CaH is th first thing to get the axe.
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 01:44 PM
get rid of it.. CaH that is.
Your work on all the rest is so good, I know the comunity don't want you limited by keeping a mainly redundent ( for purist players ) , game imbalancing mess, called CaH.
just my 10 p worth.. the mod is amazing, pity I can't get the elven builder to work in WotR mode. Im sure your aware of all bugs so I'll just sit tight and drool at the way you are making this game 100 times better
Your work on all the rest is so good, I know the comunity don't want you limited by keeping a mainly redundent ( for purist players ) , game imbalancing mess, called CaH.
just my 10 p worth.. the mod is amazing, pity I can't get the elven builder to work in WotR mode. Im sure your aware of all bugs so I'll just sit tight and drool at the way you are making this game 100 times better
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