wow,there is alot i need type,...
have you read the entirety of the Qu'ran?
well,no i haven't.
In the Koran: Verse of the Sword... in the right perspective, it does say you're allowed to kill people who don't agree with your faith
well,no,it doesn't say that,if thats true,why do (muslim) people in islamic countries when kill non muslims also get the same penalty like they killed a muslim?,killing innocent people is completely forbiden,and about the faith:
quran 109(translated):
say to the unbelievers,i don't worship what you worship,and you don't worship what i worship,and i will not worship what you worship,and you don't worship what i worship,you have your religion and i have mine..
well thats it about the faith,nothing about killing,killing is only allowed in war,and then,only those who fight,the ones who give up,kids and old people are not allowed to be killed.
According to Islamic teaching, the Quran came down as a series of revelations from Allah through the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad, who then dictated it to his followers. While in Mecca, though he condemned paganism (for the most part), Muhammad showed great respect for the monotheism of the Christian and Jewish inhabitants. It is the Quranic revelations that came later in Muhammad's career, after he and the first Muslims left Mecca for the city of Medina, that transformed Islam from a relatively benign form of monotheism into an expansionary, military-political ideology that persists to this day.
well isalm didn't transform to a military-political ideology,when mohamed and the muslims returned from madina to mekka,and "opened" it,non muslims lived there too..
Orthodox Islam does not accept that a rendering of the Quran into another language is a "translation" A point often made by Islamic apologists to defang criticism is that only Arabic readers may understand the Quran. But Arabic is a language like any other and fully capable of translation. Indeed, most Muslims are not Arabic readers.
if by orthodox you mean extreminants,then k,but i will tell you about the translation.
the quran can be translated,however not itself,but the meaning of it(i think its the same,anyway....),and there is alot of translated version to other languages,and also quran channels do translate it to other languages(altough read in arabic,the translation is right below it),but its preferd to stay in arabic.
earlier ones whose instructions they may contradict. Thus, passages revealed later in Muhammad's career, in Medina, overrule passages revealed earlier, in Mecca.
they don't overrule,they complete it,but the instructions are litterally the same,and most of the suras are revealed in mekka.
When the Quran was finally collated into book form under Caliph Uthman, the suras were ordered from longest to shortest with no connection whatever to the order in which they were revealed or to their thematic content.
i don't know why the order is so,but i am 100% sure that it have nothing to do with longest to shortest,some short ones are before long ones.
Upon such examination, one discovers that the Meccan suras, revealed at a time when the Muslims were vulnerable, are generally benign; the later Medinan suras, revealed after Muhammad had made himself the head of an army, are bellicose.
well mohamed wasn't head of an army,he was a leader of a country at that time,but not an army,and mediana suras are not bellicose,alot of people misunderstood it,really.
Quran 2:106 : Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We {Allah} abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?
well,its a right translation,but it doesn't have to with changing mids.
(i need to check about that one to say the truth,but i am sure about that it doesn't have to do with changing minds)
Quran 50:45: We know of best what they say; and you (O Muhammad) are not a tyrant over them (to force them to Belief). But warn by the Qur'an, him who fears My Threat.
right translation....
Quran 2:256: There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut {idolatry} and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
that one too.
in contrast, take 9:5, commonly referred to as the "Verse of the Sword", revealed toward the end of Muhammad's life:
Quran 9:5: Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun {unbelievers} wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat {the Islamic ritual prayers}), and give Zakat {alms}, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
they aren't called the scared months,but anyway....
in these months,war wasn't allowed,and this was a war time,and tell me when in war time,if you see an enemy,will you gave him a coffe?
also read waht was written before it,and you will know that you missunderstand it(9:1 to 9:4)and the ones after it too.
for the 3 under it there is alittle mistranslation and you need to read the full sura(or atleast until where you typed)to clearly understand it
for example:
in 8:67:it isn't (It is not for a Prophet)but:(there was not a prophet).
as for 9:33 i don't see talking about killing,and "superior" isn't the right translation.
The Quran's commandments to Muslims to wage war in the name of Allah against non-Muslims are unmistakable.
it is mistakable,infact, it supports peace,and in the history of islam there is alot of piece treaties.
also do you know where the word islam comes from? it comes from salam,which means peace.
The Quran's commandments to Muslims to wage war in the name of Allah against non-Muslims are unmistakable. They are, furthermore, absolutely authoritative as they were revealed late in the Prophet's career and so cancel and replace earlier instructions to act peaceably. Without knowledge of the principle of abrogation
well,this principle doesn't exist,you missunderstood 2:106.
also about mohamed part,their is an american film which talks about his life and in that film you will find that alot of what you typed is wrong(some of them are yes true,but alot are not).
So yeah, I think this debate has been conclusively won in favour of the "Islam wants you dead" side.
i know,hopefully my post will change it somehow.
i know you people may find it somehow biased,and somehow not believe me(well i am one guy here it seems),but if what you think about islam is true,why don't muslims do all the bad things you talk about???????
and about the jihad part:jihad doesn't mean "holly war" or"religious fighting,it means do your best at something,for example learning really hard for tests is jihad,doing your best at work is also jihad,etc...,and if there is war do you think you need to do your worst or best?
Dhimmis, the 'people of the Book' (Jews and Christians) who eventually may be allowed to live under an islamic apartheid-system, paying special (high) taxes (Jizya), not carry any weapon, not riding horses etc. Dhimmis must in every way behave subordinate to their islamic ruler, and dhimmitude it not a right, but a favour bestowed by the ruling class (muslims) and may eventually be revoked.
those taxes aren't their anymore,and we muslims so pay the zakat,which is given to poor people.
and now days a "visa"replaces all things,because it means an agreement to live their.
and we don't call them dhimmis,but people of the book is right
Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah), who (according to the Quran) under islamic rule must either convert to islam or be killed.
explain the peace treaties that happened between the prophet mohamed and some of them.
