Facebook's new "Employer Portal" feature
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 11:26 PM
Hostile is a cunt.
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Posted 24 August 2010 - 10:29 AM
Exactly why I don't use facebook.
It has been reported that some victims of rape, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not WAKE UP. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren't being raped. The only way that they realized they needed to WAKE UP was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to WAKE UP. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and PLEASE WAKE UP
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:16 AM
I know, but that doesn't hold possible employers back from checking your facebook account before hiring you 
Those silly pictures where you're puking after a drunken night? The internet never forgets. In ten years, it'll bite you in the arse when you're solliciting for a high-end job.
Those silly pictures where you're puking after a drunken night? The internet never forgets. In ten years, it'll bite you in the arse when you're solliciting for a high-end job.
It has been reported that some victims of rape, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not WAKE UP. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren't being raped. The only way that they realized they needed to WAKE UP was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to WAKE UP. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and PLEASE WAKE UP
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 11:24 AM
The greedy capitalist is right. Not that I see myself in any high end job, but the sentiment remains the same. Besides, social networking sites are silly anyway. Bring back the phonecall.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 12:43 PM
Bring back the hand-written letter.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 01:48 PM
You wouldn't be saying that if you saw the horrible font my Handwriting app uses. Just ask my sergeant...
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 01:52 PM
That reminds me of that part in the Harrison Ford movie The Fugitive, where he's pretending to be a janitor in the hospital that he used to work at. He just scribbles a bit on the "sign here" line and the doctors take the kid he's with to the ICU. 
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 05:05 PM
Those silly pictures where you're puking after a drunken night? The internet never forgets. In ten years, it'll bite you in the arse when you're solliciting for a high-end job.
Pfft. If anything, it just shows you party as hard as you work
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:26 PM
Should be illegal to go spying on potential (or current) employees like that anyway, except for the purposes of vetting in circumstances like mine. I know the vetting department checked my Facebook when I was applying for the po (I know because they phoned me about it). Given the nature of that job it makes sense. For a shitty, embarrassingly well-paid office-drone job it shouldn't be necessary - such jobs don't hold anything like the responsibilities or conflict-of-interest potential.
Employment should be granted only on merit and capability to do the job in question. My aversion to those equal-opps forms stems from this belief. What difference does it make what colour my skin is, or what name I call God? My capability to do the job in question (and that, in my view, includes speaking the lingo) should be all that matters, not how hard I party on my days off.
Employment should be granted only on merit and capability to do the job in question. My aversion to those equal-opps forms stems from this belief. What difference does it make what colour my skin is, or what name I call God? My capability to do the job in question (and that, in my view, includes speaking the lingo) should be all that matters, not how hard I party on my days off.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:42 PM
Well I don't call it spying as you choose to make it avaliable to the public. Their is plenty of privacy options avaliable and you obviously seperate your CV applying email from your personal email.
Besides in the office or education, your history/activity is monitored.
Search engines, ISPs monitor.
Any card you use monitors your activity as well.
The concept of privacy is obsolete when you use any system which is electronic as you become a statistic.
Besides classic saying - if you not guilty, you got nothing to hide hence the whole transparency of information agenda.
As for social and getting work, depends on nature of work e.g. legal, public service.
Besides in the office or education, your history/activity is monitored.
Search engines, ISPs monitor.
Any card you use monitors your activity as well.
The concept of privacy is obsolete when you use any system which is electronic as you become a statistic.
Besides classic saying - if you not guilty, you got nothing to hide hence the whole transparency of information agenda.
As for social and getting work, depends on nature of work e.g. legal, public service.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 02:19 AM
if you not guilty, you got nothing to hide
This is a total logical fallacy. You are not the one who decides on what is legal/illegal, ergo what you should be hiding.
Extreme example, Jews had nothing to hide in pre-Nazi Germany. And suddenly, they did.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 02:56 AM
I guess you don't mind letting the police monitor each and every one in his bedroom, bathroom and car, etc. then, do you? After all, you're not doing anything illegal. Or are you?Besides classic saying - if you not guilty, you got nothing to hide hence the whole transparency of information agenda.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 06:06 AM
Big Brother is watching you. And Allied General helped make it a possibility.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:26 AM
Your part of the Big Brother society, the moment you use any system which records information making all your privacy points moot.
Unless your living in the wild somewhere (i.e. no internet access, telephone, etc) then someone knows what you are doing.
Also even in that case some countries/companies satellite is probably above your position at some point. (GPS anyone?)
Its not like I agree with it, but its been happening the moment you were born and registered on a system somewhere.
I'm obviously talking about moderate countries, not for example North Korea or Iran or even China to some extent.
I'm talking about your average western influenced demoracy/republic.
Heck even this forum to some extent can track your actiivty, i.e. locations, numbers of posts for the harvesting of information.
Yet suddenly it seems like my revelations are something new or shocking.
Unless your living in the wild somewhere (i.e. no internet access, telephone, etc) then someone knows what you are doing.
Also even in that case some countries/companies satellite is probably above your position at some point. (GPS anyone?)
Its not like I agree with it, but its been happening the moment you were born and registered on a system somewhere.
I'm obviously talking about moderate countries, not for example North Korea or Iran or even China to some extent.
I'm talking about your average western influenced demoracy/republic.
Heck even this forum to some extent can track your actiivty, i.e. locations, numbers of posts for the harvesting of information.
Yet suddenly it seems like my revelations are something new or shocking.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 10:12 AM
What especially astonishes me is when people post all their private information on sites like Facebook, for everyone to see, and then complain afterwards when people they don't know see it and use it (employers etc), and when they go all emo when they share embarrasing pictures with a few friends, but those pictures go public afterwards. Or when long forgotten information suddenly pops up again, after they thought they deleted it from their profile.
Not to mention it's now ridiculously easy to hack into someones email account:
- Go to a random hotmail account
- I've forgotten my password
- Secret question
- "What's the name of my dog?"
- Check facebook of said person, and search it for information about dogs
- In case it's required to be 'friended' with said person for access, fear not, just send a friend request. 90% of the people accept invitations from random strangers, so they can boost their friend-count and show off how social they really are.
- Enter hotmail account. Congratulations! You are now free to do whatever the fuck you want in name of the individual, and free to get any private information!
- Chances are pretty high as well the password for the email account is the same for the facebook account, so you'll be getting more private information and more opportunities to do embarrasing stuff in the individual's name at the same time! Not to mention access to bank accounts for other online websites, so you can order stuff in their name!
Yeah, people are stupid.
Not to mention it's now ridiculously easy to hack into someones email account:
- Go to a random hotmail account
- I've forgotten my password
- Secret question
- "What's the name of my dog?"
- Check facebook of said person, and search it for information about dogs
- In case it's required to be 'friended' with said person for access, fear not, just send a friend request. 90% of the people accept invitations from random strangers, so they can boost their friend-count and show off how social they really are.
- Enter hotmail account. Congratulations! You are now free to do whatever the fuck you want in name of the individual, and free to get any private information!
- Chances are pretty high as well the password for the email account is the same for the facebook account, so you'll be getting more private information and more opportunities to do embarrasing stuff in the individual's name at the same time! Not to mention access to bank accounts for other online websites, so you can order stuff in their name!
Yeah, people are stupid.
It has been reported that some victims of rape, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not WAKE UP. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren't being raped. The only way that they realized they needed to WAKE UP was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to WAKE UP. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and PLEASE WAKE UP
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 10:36 PM
That's why I put gibberish as answers to those secret questions.
Regarding the issue of privacy v.s. security, that's just a very delicate matter. On the one hand, I want criminals to be caught using (or deterred by) security cameras, but on the other hand, some day the government might declare something I do every day to be criminal. I usually find it's best to divide such rights and responsibilities between different entities (government, legal system, military, civilian organisations, etc.)
Regarding the issue of privacy v.s. security, that's just a very delicate matter. On the one hand, I want criminals to be caught using (or deterred by) security cameras, but on the other hand, some day the government might declare something I do every day to be criminal. I usually find it's best to divide such rights and responsibilities between different entities (government, legal system, military, civilian organisations, etc.)
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Posted 28 August 2010 - 03:26 PM
Bring back the hand-written letter.
No fucking way.
My handwriting is fucking horrible. Thank God for keyboards.
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Posted 28 August 2010 - 10:29 PM
Facebook the film
Also unlike opening post its real
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Posted 28 August 2010 - 10:37 PM
My opening post was a little scary. Yours is just disturbing.
Hostile is a cunt.
Thought I'd have that here to save time.
Thought I'd have that here to save time.
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