For those of you who haven't heard, Saddam got his ass handed to him when we dragged him from a whole in the ground at a farmhouse outside of Tikrit. Not a shot was fired, and about 600 people were involved in the overall capture-- mainly the 4th Infantry Wolverines I believe. The video of him being looked at by doctors is amazing, he looks like the Unibomber or something. You almost feel sorry for the guy when you see what he's been living in for the past number of months, but I suppose that's what you get for talking smack and not being able to back it up: months of shame and fear.
We got him
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Posted 14 December 2003 - 04:44 PM
Nice to see he's going to disappear from Iraq. Perhaps things can settle down there now.
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Posted 14 December 2003 - 07:57 PM
yeah... the president gave a speech about that today... although I'm sure most of you would not like me to use his name...
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Posted 14 December 2003 - 08:04 PM
...why wouldn't we?...
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Posted 14 December 2003 - 08:40 PM
Bush is doing great. Now that Iraq is going so well, what are the Democrats going to attack him for now?
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Posted 14 December 2003 - 08:47 PM
I think Bush just earned a 5-10 point jump in his approval rating, and quite possibly secured the next election, or at least made it much harder for the critics. He can always say look what staying the course brought us.
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Posted 14 December 2003 - 09:23 PM
stupiditywhat are the Democrats going to attack him for now?
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Posted 15 December 2003 - 12:15 AM
dude... I saw a commercial the other day... it was a flame on bush! I laughed at it, it like showed his face, then talked shit about him!
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Posted 15 December 2003 - 09:30 AM
I think his capture came too early to have any real impact on your presidential elections.
A lot can happen in 11 months and it only takes a few of nasty suicide attacks with a lot of American casualties to sway it around 180°.
If you see the man has been hiding for 8 months without apparent contact or communications with his leftover military staff, you have to realize that the resistance is organized from elsewhere.
The only direct benefit is the increase of faith the Iraqi people get in the American forces. But if life in Iraq can't be stabilized and normalized rapidly it will also disappear quickly. They just want work, water, electricity and security like anyone else.
I'm kinda perplexed that a technological advanced superpower as America, is unable to provide the continuity of basic things like electricity and gasoline (in a country that has one of the biggest oil reserves..)
I do not share this unconditional euphoria about Saddams capture (which is a good thing never the less!) because it defocuses public opinion from the real issues.
A lot can happen in 11 months and it only takes a few of nasty suicide attacks with a lot of American casualties to sway it around 180°.
If you see the man has been hiding for 8 months without apparent contact or communications with his leftover military staff, you have to realize that the resistance is organized from elsewhere.
The only direct benefit is the increase of faith the Iraqi people get in the American forces. But if life in Iraq can't be stabilized and normalized rapidly it will also disappear quickly. They just want work, water, electricity and security like anyone else.
I'm kinda perplexed that a technological advanced superpower as America, is unable to provide the continuity of basic things like electricity and gasoline (in a country that has one of the biggest oil reserves..)
I do not share this unconditional euphoria about Saddams capture (which is a good thing never the less!) because it defocuses public opinion from the real issues.
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Posted 15 December 2003 - 09:59 PM
A bit of public euphoria is nice though. Besides, it takes time to rebuild a country. Rome wasn't built in a day, and you can't repair a country that's suffered as much as Iraq has in just a few weeks or months.
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Posted 16 December 2003 - 04:32 AM
A bit of public euphoria is nice though. Besides, it takes time to rebuild a country. Rome wasn't built in a day, and you can't repair a country that's suffered as much as Iraq has in just a few weeks or months.
Bush thinks so...
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Posted 16 December 2003 - 07:49 PM
it only takes a few of nasty suicide attacks with a lot of American casualties to sway it around 180°.
Because that happens so often...
Anyway, the people of the nation obviously DON'T want water, work, etc. because they haven't been to receptive of the help we HAVE provided them with...
I read in TIME the other day a quote from about a Jordanian man saying "The men he trains to kill Americans are ready to shed the last drop our blood' for Iraq"... that would be admirable if--you know-- we were trying to TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM. That's like shedding blood for someone who offers to buy you dinner...
And you can't say we haven't made progress... tribunal's and temporary government offices have been established... oh and people aren't being imprisoned for accidentally making a wrong turn onto a street Sadam is driving down-- that's always a plus.
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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:27 PM
You know my feelings on that MG haha
In terms of 'taking' our jobs, Maddox's Article here just about sums up my thoughts
But it drives me insane when people of ANY race, creed, etc. come to our country and bitch at us for the way we do things-- just be happy you have it as good as you do, and don't take our generosity for granted... And for fucks sake do NOT tell us to take "under god" out of the Pledge of Allegience. This nation was founded on Christianity, and we aren't about to force you to practice the religion or even say the Pledge... but at least stand up and respect the nation that has provided you with so much... and do NOT turn your back to your flag you disrespectful-- whew, deep breath...
My biggest beef, which is more personal than reasonable, is the amount of people that come here knowing little to know English. Immigrants should have to past tests to test their knowledge of the English language before they're admitted to the country (and before I get anybody whining about my racist ideas, remember that I feel this way about ANY country, and these policies would apply to Americans overseas as well.)
But yes, this and Somalia... we would've been off leveling the country right from the get-go.
In terms of 'taking' our jobs, Maddox's Article here just about sums up my thoughts
But it drives me insane when people of ANY race, creed, etc. come to our country and bitch at us for the way we do things-- just be happy you have it as good as you do, and don't take our generosity for granted... And for fucks sake do NOT tell us to take "under god" out of the Pledge of Allegience. This nation was founded on Christianity, and we aren't about to force you to practice the religion or even say the Pledge... but at least stand up and respect the nation that has provided you with so much... and do NOT turn your back to your flag you disrespectful-- whew, deep breath...
My biggest beef, which is more personal than reasonable, is the amount of people that come here knowing little to know English. Immigrants should have to past tests to test their knowledge of the English language before they're admitted to the country (and before I get anybody whining about my racist ideas, remember that I feel this way about ANY country, and these policies would apply to Americans overseas as well.)
But yes, this and Somalia... we would've been off leveling the country right from the get-go.
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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:41 PM
lol, Detail that is THE funniest damn comment i have ever heard!
good one. i love how McDonald's has now become the representative of the USA.
FYI: each McDonald's is actually an individual franchise not owned by one corporation. anyone with enough cash can buy a McDick's and plop it in some third world country if they wanted.
(ponders buying a McD's and plopping it in the middle of India)
think that'd piss em off?
good one. i love how McDonald's has now become the representative of the USA.
FYI: each McDonald's is actually an individual franchise not owned by one corporation. anyone with enough cash can buy a McDick's and plop it in some third world country if they wanted.
(ponders buying a McD's and plopping it in the middle of India)
think that'd piss em off?
www.itsmod.com
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Posted 16 December 2003 - 11:04 PM
heh heh heh, that reminds me:
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