This section is for new ideas for new tech goodies that can be captured and fought over in the game.
To kick it off here's an idea for a Tech UN supply center.
The tech supply center could build the following equipment:
UN Technicals for forward supply center defense -
http://www.un.org/av...ges/une6404.jpg
UN Ambulances for medical aid.
Unarmed UN Helo for gathering those hard to reach supplies. small to normal cargo capacity. -
http://www.un.org/De...il/unmil05.html
http://www.un.org/De...nub/onub03.html
The big item for this supply center though, would be a supply truck exactly like, or similar to, the new tank generals supply truck that could gather a substantial amount in one load.
Tech_structure ideas
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 04:38 PM
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 05:00 PM
I would like to see some new Tech Defense structures, like the artillery towers (Whic In My not so humble opinion look like crap)With somthing different replacing them.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 05:02 PM
Maybe for in the cities you could have a tech bank that gives you money with every transaction. And if the enemy captures one you could rob it instead of destroy it! 
I would like to see a tech AA or flak cannon since you have the artillery. That'd be nice.
I would like to see a tech AA or flak cannon since you have the artillery. That'd be nice.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 08:27 PM
Flak cannon sounds good to me 
could be used to decimate a group of infantry.
How about a sniper shelter? Camoflagued and underground garrisonable by snipas?
could be used to decimate a group of infantry.
How about a sniper shelter? Camoflagued and underground garrisonable by snipas?
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 08:52 PM
Flak cannon would be good against tanks moreso than infantry. Case in point: German 88mm anti-aircraft gun of World War II proved to be one of the hardest hitting anti-tank guns of the war.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 11:17 PM
Tech Command Center:
From here, you can get pretty much everything in the game. It can build Dozers for a whole new line of buildings(every one has Tech before the name) which can build everything from every side. (If there is a direct improvement, such as the Raptor to King Raptor, only the better one is available). You also get Workers to build every defense in the game.
Here's another idea for it: Gen Powers. You buy them in the center and they are added to your sidebar. However, you must be a certain rank(can't buy Fuel Air bomb until you are a 5-star rank, but you can buy it no matter which side you are on)
Problem is that the shroud is revealed around it for everyone and it tends to draw attention. Also, you can only have 1-2 of each structure it builds(except defences).
The Flak Gun would make a nice GLA or Militia building.
I like the tech supply center.
Note: I know there is a Tech Dozer Bay, but that gets too complicated with so many identical Dozers that all build different stuff.
From here, you can get pretty much everything in the game. It can build Dozers for a whole new line of buildings(every one has Tech before the name) which can build everything from every side. (If there is a direct improvement, such as the Raptor to King Raptor, only the better one is available). You also get Workers to build every defense in the game.
Here's another idea for it: Gen Powers. You buy them in the center and they are added to your sidebar. However, you must be a certain rank(can't buy Fuel Air bomb until you are a 5-star rank, but you can buy it no matter which side you are on)
Problem is that the shroud is revealed around it for everyone and it tends to draw attention. Also, you can only have 1-2 of each structure it builds(except defences).
The Flak Gun would make a nice GLA or Militia building.
I like the tech supply center.
Note: I know there is a Tech Dozer Bay, but that gets too complicated with so many identical Dozers that all build different stuff.
Edited by link.the.first, 11 September 2005 - 11:17 PM.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 11:41 PM
Tech Command Center:
From here, you can get pretty much everything in the game. It can build Dozers for a whole new line of buildings(every one has Tech before the name) which can build everything from every side. (If there is a direct improvement, such as the Raptor to King Raptor, only the better one is available). You also get Workers to build every defense in the game.
Here's another idea for it: Gen Powers. You buy them in the center and they are added to your sidebar. However, you must be a certain rank(can't buy Fuel Air bomb until you are a 5-star rank, but you can buy it no matter which side you are on)
Problem is that the shroud is revealed around it for everyone and it tends to draw attention. Also, you can only have 1-2 of each structure it builds(except defenses).
The Flak Gun would make a nice GLA or Militia building.
I like the tech supply center.
Note: I know there is a Tech Dozer Bay, but that gets too complicated with so many identical Dozers that all build different stuff.
I like the command center idea, but I was thinking it could be more like a tech_boss general where you get to build up a 'best of' base. Example: Take the best ground units from all U.S. sides and put them into a Tech_Warfactory for instance. And so on and so forth, with the other buildings and sides as well.
As for the Tech_General Powers, I don't think that's possible, even if it could be coded in that way, because the buttons would get pushed off the screen. Anyway, there's enough superweapons as is in the game for each side. Personally, I'm not fond of superweapon slug-fest matches.
As for the Tech_DozerBay's dozers looking alike, I agree with you totally. Vanguard, would you consider fixing that little problem sometime down the road? Thanks.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 11:43 PM
Is there anyway to make it so if you are the USA and you have the USAF gen you dont have to have a power plant from the basic side and the AF side? It is really annoing to have to build 13 supply stashes to get all tech.
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 01:11 PM
nope and the tech command center its called the dozer bay DONT BE TEMPTED BY THE DARK SIDE LINK COME TO THE LIGHT
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 08:12 PM
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 08:58 PM
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 11:21 PM
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 11:36 PM
Like I said, I know about the tech dozer bay. The advantage with this one is that you only have 2 kinds of workers to build: a dozer for a new line of structures that build everything (the factory builds ALL USA, China and GLA land units that come out of a factory, the power plant is nuclear with the advanced control rods upgrade, all superweapons are available, etc) Otherwise, it takes 12 kinds of workers to build everything.
Another option: it builds hypbrid units. The main battle tank is a King Crusader. It has rocket pods and can build the Omega drone, Erebus Drone, or Scout Drone.
The heavy battle tank is an Overlord that can pick up salvage and build the same drones as the new crusader.
The Humvee can build guns on top like the Land Raider, but it doen't lose the TOW missile and can upgrade the machine gun with salvage, eventually turning it into a Gattling gun.
The main infantry unit has a gattling gun, invisibility, and flashbangs.
You get the idea.
Another option: it builds hypbrid units. The main battle tank is a King Crusader. It has rocket pods and can build the Omega drone, Erebus Drone, or Scout Drone.
The heavy battle tank is an Overlord that can pick up salvage and build the same drones as the new crusader.
The Humvee can build guns on top like the Land Raider, but it doen't lose the TOW missile and can upgrade the machine gun with salvage, eventually turning it into a Gattling gun.
The main infantry unit has a gattling gun, invisibility, and flashbangs.
You get the idea.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 11:09 AM
interesting idea, but maybe you need a new building for that.
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hi i don't really like the idea of having a building that creates all the best stuff in the game, because the game is ballanced well as it is, adding this would take away alot of the challenge of the game.
But i think the artilary turret things should be changed into bunkers with artilary on top, something like the artilary gens bunker.
I think that there should be a more tech buildings though say a building with a radar on top to reveal an area like the radar van, plus it should be able to call in a artilary strike of 5 shells so that its not too powerful, plus this should be garisonable. This perhaps have a helipad to build small lil bird type helicopters. this will give a bit more of a edge, as gla and malitia could now build air units if they captured it, or perhaps the ability to call in paradrops of money crates anywhere you want.
But i think the artilary turret things should be changed into bunkers with artilary on top, something like the artilary gens bunker.
I think that there should be a more tech buildings though say a building with a radar on top to reveal an area like the radar van, plus it should be able to call in a artilary strike of 5 shells so that its not too powerful, plus this should be garisonable. This perhaps have a helipad to build small lil bird type helicopters. this will give a bit more of a edge, as gla and malitia could now build air units if they captured it, or perhaps the ability to call in paradrops of money crates anywhere you want.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 02:54 PM
tech at gun would be good
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 08:04 PM
Bob, didn't you suggest a tech brewery a while back? That was good.
For the tech command center, it combines all sides into the normal number of buildings and units(plus a few, 2 kinds of workers, all def. structures, and all superweapons). To keep it balanced, put it in the center of the map so everyone can race and fight over it.
Tech Guard Base: A firebase-sized structure with a large artillery cannon, two gattling guns, a patriot missile, and some infantry slots.
For the tech command center, it combines all sides into the normal number of buildings and units(plus a few, 2 kinds of workers, all def. structures, and all superweapons). To keep it balanced, put it in the center of the map so everyone can race and fight over it.
Tech Guard Base: A firebase-sized structure with a large artillery cannon, two gattling guns, a patriot missile, and some infantry slots.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 09:27 PM
hi i don't really like the idea of having a building that creates all the best stuff in the game, because the game is ballanced well as it is, adding this would take away alot of the challenge of the game. ...
Yes, but the purpose of this type of tech building is as a grand prize to fight over, just like the tech dozer bay is in the game. Generally speaking, when you grab a grand prize like that, whether it be a 'best of' war factory, or just a plain old preplaced Chinese war factory during the game, the balance of power is going to tip toward the person that captured it. That's just part of the game.
If you don't like that type of game, or that type of tech structure, on a map then your free to choose a different map that doesn't have any type of captureable war factories preplaced on them.
Remember, these tech structures are put on individual maps by map makers, or player map editors, when the map was built/edited. These structures can't be built during the game by any player. As long as all sides (in multi-player games) know that there is this type of tech structure is on the map for the taking ahead of time, and agree to play with the map anyway, then I don't see a problem.
Heck, the tech dozer bay is even more powerful than what is being suggested here, in my opinion, so I can't see the problem of having a 'best of' war factory put into the game.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 10:49 PM
I like the Dozer Bay but it is annoying to build 12 seperate workers. Also, I'm playing on Mod Toaster now, so does anyone know how to make a map with PR structures without installing PR regularly?
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What the heck is Mod Toaster?
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