Hero Mod
#21
Posted 22 April 2006 - 06:08 AM
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#22
Posted 30 April 2006 - 10:32 PM
So, if anyone would like to do some FXs for this mod, please add me to MSN or PM me. It would be FXs for some special powers. Not much, but some.
Also, I just want to drop a note that the mod is going quite well. I'd say it's about 70% done. And I hope that some sort of a BETA can be released in May.
Edited by King of Universe, 30 April 2006 - 10:33 PM.
Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me... I wish none of this had happened...
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...
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#23 Guest_Ëaril Élmírëtano_*
Posted 08 May 2006 - 11:20 AM
Perfect, in my humble opinion. My compliments.I'll post the powers I've planned to give the heroes, so that people can make comments and suggestions.
Gondor
Halbarad;Aragorn; I'll give him a mount instead of his leadership
- Rank 1: Mount
- Rank 4: Summon Dunedain. Summons 3 battalions of Dunedain
- Rank 7: Haste of the North. Gives a speed bonus to himself and nearby mounted troops. Only usable when mounted
- Rank 10: Banner of Elendil. Pulls up the Banner of Elendil which gives an enourmos attack bonus, as well as making the enemy scared
As Ring characters can be turned off, in scenarios w/out that Celeborn's "Power of Love" ability is rendered useless. Celeborn was largely a peace-time ruler, who governed Harlond in Lindon into prosperity, and founded the wealthy realm of Eregion before leaving it for Lorien, and after the Third Age he led elves to southern Mirkwood and their founded yet another prosperous realm. Perhaps, instead of "Power of Love," give him something to reflect the wisdom of Celeborn the Wise, that allows farms to produce more quickly, or, if that isn't possible, allows soldiers near him to gain gold when they slay enemies?Elves
Celeborn;
- Rank 1: Mount
- Rank 1: Power of Love. Makes him stronger when Galadriel is near
- Rank 3: King of the Woods. Gives an armor boost to nearby elves
- Rank 10: Elven Gift. Grants nearby allied heros invulnerability for a short period of time.
- Rank 10: King of Lorien. The Spellbook Elven summon
And as for Heros that could use adding, the sons of Elrond, Ellodan and Elrohir, are sorely missed in this game. And I'm sure we'd all love to see Gil-Galad in action.
Beorn was a loner, and, as has been mentioned, there does seem to be a lot of summoning in this. Perhaps he could have a passive power that makes everyone around him more effective against Goblins, since he had a particular hatred of their Misty Mountain breed, rather than another summoning?Dwarves
Beorn;
- Rank 1: Transform. Switch between a man and a bear
- Rank 3: Rage of the Mountain. Like Aragorn's Elendil. Only avaiable in Bear Mode
- Rank 8: Stomp. Causes knockback and damage to enemies
- Rank 10: Summon Beornings. Summons many small bears to his aid
While personslly I'd rather see this one named King Brand, just to keep it during the time of the War of the Ring, I suppose it makes little difference. My only humble suggestion would be that, instead of summoning Men of Dale, he has the ability to either give archers experience or improve archer's overall, on top of his improving archers against dragons. And for the Black Arrow - I would suggest making it a one-shot kill with a long recharge, since it did kill Smaug in one shot - and that would force players to use it very selectively to take out a dangerous enemy hero or monster when desperate.Bard the Bowman;
- Rank 3: Wounding Arrow. Like Faramir's but stronger
- Rank 6: Slayer of Dragons. Leadership, gives him and nearby troops a damage bonus agianst Fire Drakes
- Rank 8: Summon Men of Dale
- Rank 10: Black Arrow. A one-shot-kill weapon on fire drakes, and take away about half of Drogoth's health. Only useable on Dragons
Gothmog never mounts in the film, nor is Sauron ever mentioned to use Wargs from Mordor in the books, so I would suggest removing Gothmog's ability to mount a warg. And for his level 10, perhaps instead of another summoning ability, you could give him "The Age of the Orc," an ability that increases Orc attack for a period of time while decreasing human defense, or maybe a power that causes enemies to flee while simultaneously granting his own troops speed so they can chase down their fleeing foes.Mordor
Gothmog;Mahud; Starts at Rank 5
- Rank 1: Mount. Mounts a warg.
- Rank 2: Lieutenant of Minas Morgul. Leadership. Gives attack bonus to nearby troops
- Rank 3: Bloodthirsty
- Rank 5: Form Ranks. Leadership. Gives armor bonus to nearby troops
- Rank 10: Siege Commander. Summons some orcs and catapults
- Rank 1: Leader of Oliphants. His only power. A huge damage and armor bonus to nearby mumakils
And I really like the Mahud idea! Kudos on that.
Isengard
Ugluk;Saruman;
- Rank 1: Uruk-hai Captain. Speed bonus to nearby uruks
- Rank 3: Carnage. Same as Lurtz's
- Rank 5: Supper. Heals nearby uruks
- Rank 10: Summon Uruks. Summons some uruks
I'll give him a red Word of Power instead of Dominate Enemy
I like the Uruk speed bonus idea a lot. However, for the rank ten, again I'd suggest maybe something other than a summons. Instead, I'd suggest something like, "Fighting Uruk Hai," a power that makes one company invulnerable, or at least extremely resistant to damage, for a short period of time. Or maybe just makes Ugluk invulnerable for a period of time.
And as for Saruman, I'd really suggest you don't give him the Word of Power. He didn't have that kind of power after he turned to the darker arts of Sauron - but his ability to persuade and dominate remained as one of his greatest strengths.
Well, that's all for my humble suggestions. Hope you might find some useful. Good luck with your mod
#24
Posted 08 May 2006 - 12:29 PM
Gothmog never mounts in the film, nor is Sauron ever mentioned to use Wargs from Mordor in the books, so I would suggest removing Gothmog's ability to mount a warg. And for his level 10, perhaps instead of another summoning ability, you could give him "The Age of the Orc," an ability that increases Orc attack for a period of time while decreasing human defense, or maybe a power that causes enemies to flee while simultaneously granting his own troops speed so they can chase down their fleeing foes.
And I really like the Mahud idea! Kudos on that.
Gothmog does mount in the movie.. when walking through the lines of Orcs at the Pellenor Fields. Also, when the gate of Minas Tirith breaks, some Wargs are seen running into the City, after the Olog-Hai.
Btw, what model and or skin is needed at the moment? I might lend a hand.
Edited by Matias, 08 May 2006 - 12:31 PM.
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#25
Posted 08 May 2006 - 12:55 PM
ThanksPerfect, in my humble opinion. My compliments.I'll post the powers I've planned to give the heroes, so that people can make comments and suggestions.
Gondor
Halbarad;Aragorn; I'll give him a mount instead of his leadership
- Rank 1: Mount
- Rank 4: Summon Dunedain. Summons 3 battalions of Dunedain
- Rank 7: Haste of the North. Gives a speed bonus to himself and nearby mounted troops. Only usable when mounted
- Rank 10: Banner of Elendil. Pulls up the Banner of Elendil which gives an enourmos attack bonus, as well as making the enemy scared
I'll give him a leadership for productionAs Ring characters can be turned off, in scenarios w/out that Celeborn's "Power of Love" ability is rendered useless. Celeborn was largely a peace-time ruler, who governed Harlond in Lindon into prosperity, and founded the wealthy realm of Eregion before leaving it for Lorien, and after the Third Age he led elves to southern Mirkwood and their founded yet another prosperous realm. Perhaps, instead of "Power of Love," give him something to reflect the wisdom of Celeborn the Wise, that allows farms to produce more quickly, or, if that isn't possible, allows soldiers near him to gain gold when they slay enemies?Elves
Celeborn;
- Rank 1: Mount
- Rank 1: Power of Love. Makes him stronger when Galadriel is near
- Rank 3: King of the Woods. Gives an armor boost to nearby elves
- Rank 10: Elven Gift. Grants nearby allied heros invulnerability for a short period of time.
- Rank 10: King of Lorien. The Spellbook Elven summon
I may add them at a later time, but not now.And as for Heros that could use adding, the sons of Elrond, Ellodan and Elrohir, are sorely missed in this game. And I'm sure we'd all love to see Gil-Galad in action.
DoneBeorn was a loner, and, as has been mentioned, there does seem to be a lot of summoning in this. Perhaps he could have a passive power that makes everyone around him more effective against Goblins, since he had a particular hatred of their Misty Mountain breed, rather than another summoning?Dwarves
Beorn;
- Rank 1: Transform. Switch between a man and a bear
- Rank 3: Rage of the Mountain. Like Aragorn's Elendil. Only avaiable in Bear Mode
- Rank 8: Stomp. Causes knockback and damage to enemies
- Rank 10: Summon Beornings. Summons many small bears to his aid
I'd like to keep the name as it is, but I can change the summon I don't want it as a one-shot kill, as Drogoth is so expensive to get... But it'll have a big reloadtimeWhile personslly I'd rather see this one named King Brand, just to keep it during the time of the War of the Ring, I suppose it makes little difference. My only humble suggestion would be that, instead of summoning Men of Dale, he has the ability to either give archers experience or improve archer's overall, on top of his improving archers against dragons. And for the Black Arrow - I would suggest making it a one-shot kill with a long recharge, since it did kill Smaug in one shot - and that would force players to use it very selectively to take out a dangerous enemy hero or monster when desperate.Bard the Bowman;
- Rank 3: Wounding Arrow. Like Faramir's but stronger
- Rank 6: Slayer of Dragons. Leadership, gives him and nearby troops a damage bonus agianst Fire Drakes
- Rank 8: Summon Men of Dale
- Rank 10: Black Arrow. A one-shot-kill weapon on fire drakes, and take away about half of Drogoth's health. Only useable on Dragons
Gothmog never mounts in the film, nor is Sauron ever mentioned to use Wargs from Mordor in the books, so I would suggest removing Gothmog's ability to mount a warg.Mordor
Gothmog;Mahud; Starts at Rank 5
- Rank 1: Mount. Mounts a warg.
- Rank 2: Lieutenant of Minas Morgul. Leadership. Gives attack bonus to nearby troops
- Rank 3: Bloodthirsty
- Rank 5: Form Ranks. Leadership. Gives armor bonus to nearby troops
- Rank 10: Siege Commander. Summons some orcs and catapults
- Rank 1: Leader of Oliphants. His only power. A huge damage and armor bonus to nearby mumakils
Gothmog does mount in the movie.. when walking through the lines of Orcs at the Pellenor Fields. Also, when the gate of Minas Tirith breaks, some Wargs are seen running into the City, after the Olog-Hai.
The first oneAnd for his level 10, perhaps instead of another summoning ability, you could give him "The Age of the Orc," an ability that increases Orc attack for a period of time while decreasing human defense, or maybe a power that causes enemies to flee while simultaneously granting his own troops speed so they can chase down their fleeing foes.
ThanksAnd I really like the Mahud idea! Kudos on that.
I can give him a kind of Glorious ChargeIsengard
Ugluk;Saruman;
- Rank 1: Uruk-hai Captain. Speed bonus to nearby uruks
- Rank 3: Carnage. Same as Lurtz's
- Rank 5: Supper. Heals nearby uruks
- Rank 10: Summon Uruks. Summons some uruks
I'll give him a red Word of Power instead of Dominate Enemy
I like the Uruk speed bonus idea a lot. However, for the rank ten, again I'd suggest maybe something other than a summons. Instead, I'd suggest something like, "Fighting Uruk Hai," a power that makes one company invulnerable, or at least extremely resistant to damage, for a short period of time. Or maybe just makes Ugluk invulnerable for a period of time.
If any other agree, I'll change it backAnd as for Saruman, I'd really suggest you don't give him the Word of Power. He didn't have that kind of power after he turned to the darker arts of Sauron - but his ability to persuade and dominate remained as one of his greatest strengths.
Thank you for the great commentsWell, that's all for my humble suggestions. Hope you might find some useful. Good luck with your mod
If you add me to MSN, I'll get back to you ThanksBtw, what model and or skin is needed at the moment? I might lend a hand.
Edited by King of Universe, 23 May 2006 - 01:43 PM.
Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me... I wish none of this had happened...
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...
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#26
Posted 08 May 2006 - 01:45 PM
There you have it.. it might be a bit too bright on some parts, did that to make sure the folds are properly visible ingame.
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#27
Posted 08 May 2006 - 02:27 PM
Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me... I wish none of this had happened...
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...
Click me
#28
Posted 08 May 2006 - 02:35 PM
I've got alot of free time today, anything else that needs doing?
Edited by Matias, 08 May 2006 - 02:42 PM.
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#29
Posted 09 May 2006 - 04:24 AM
Shame you won't add in the Sons of Elrond, as they were actually in the war. :( They'd be really cool as a single unit, with the two ranger-elves together like an expensive Faramir that does twice the damage (since they'd be firing two bows, swinging two swords, etc..)
And as for Bard:
Instead of summoning or giving experience for his rank 8, what about (since he was known for rallying the archers of Lake-town to stand their ground against the dragon) a short invulnerability to archers around him, so that they can stand their ground and fight a dragon for a little while in defense of their homes? And for his Black Arrow - I can understand making it too weak to kill Drogoth, but personally I'd like to see it strong enough so that any other monster or hero would be slain, and that it does enough damage to Drogoth that the enemy would have to pull him back pronto if they want him to survive.
Concerning Gothmog's Warg:
While he may have rode am mount while surveying the troops, I think having him mount takes away from his role as an infantry leader, and it seems out of place for him since in combat he always was dismounted, but I guess there is no canonical reason to contest this.
I also had an idea - what about adding the Haradrim Serpent King - I think I've seen his name as Sulladan and Herumor in the past, though those aren't canon. He could be a recolored Rohirrim (I could probably edit the skin in the near future, though at the moment the computer that has BFMEII and my computer that has photoshop are several hundred miles apart), come with a small cadre of his body guards, and have a leadership power for evil men, a Glorious charge power for him and his bodyguard, and the ability to switch between bows and spears, and maybe a poisoned dart that immobilizes an enemy for a little while. The Haradrim king just seemed to play a memorable role in the book, and with the Orcs of Mordor getting Gothmog as their minor leader, I would like to see the men of Mordor get one as well. Plus, if you look kindly on this idea and it works well, Imrahil and his Swan-Knights could be added in similar fashion to Gondor
And Matias, that banner looks great! My only question is: isn't the banner supposed to be sable/black?
And what about adding Smaug the Golden? And Thorin Oakenshield, or Bolg of the North? If you're adding Bard and Beorn, and so not sticking to LoTR timeframes, these characters that shaped the Northern world might deserve an appearance. Smaug could be effective against Dwarves and make Dwarves weaker in his presence, to reflect how he dominated them at Erebor, a pillaging power that allows allies to gain gold for kills when in his presence, and maybe capable of 'Bejeweled Beast' power that makes him resistant to arrows for a little while, or weakens a few archer units so that their arrows hardly faze him, but leave him weak enough to be slain by the Black Arrow of Bard? Thorin could be an orc-killing machine, since he did so well in the battle against Azog at Moria, with powers to increase his own killing power and a "To Me!" rallying cry that helps allies in some way. And Bolg, of course, could be a Goblin tank with leader powers, with a Marauder-like escort or something? Just thinking as I type and all
Thanks for putting up with my comments Of course, they are merely suggestions meant to throw ideas out there for you, so take what ya like.
Edited by Gomurr the Ancient, 09 May 2006 - 05:50 AM.
#30
Posted 09 May 2006 - 08:25 AM
And Matias, that banner looks great! My only question is: isn't the banner supposed to be sable/black
I was aware of that, but something told me that he'd like it to be blue more.. if not, I can post my sable one. You seem like an interesting conversational type, if you have msn, add me. ffx_matias@hotmail.com
EDIT:
Edited by Matias, 09 May 2006 - 08:29 AM.
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#31
Posted 10 May 2006 - 08:20 PM
Sûladan the Serpent Lord.. made for no reason, but if you want it I would be glad to tribute it. Perhaps you can get Mullers to bind it? I can't do that stuff. Gimme a shout if ya want it.
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#32
Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:15 PM
I may add them at a later timeConcerning the Elves:
Shame you won't add in the Sons of Elrond, as they were actually in the war. :( They'd be really cool as a single unit, with the two ranger-elves together like an expensive Faramir that does twice the damage (since they'd be firing two bows, swinging two swords, etc..)
Don't know about the leadership, but I can make Black arrow take away about 3/4 of his life, or 4/5 maybe. And I want it to only work on dragons, and maybe fellbeast(hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm).And as for Bard:
Instead of summoning or giving experience for his rank 8, what about (since he was known for rallying the archers of Lake-town to stand their ground against the dragon) a short invulnerability to archers around him, so that they can stand their ground and fight a dragon for a little while in defense of their homes? And for his Black Arrow - I can understand making it too weak to kill Drogoth, but personally I'd like to see it strong enough so that any other monster or hero would be slain, and that it does enough damage to Drogoth that the enemy would have to pull him back pronto if they want him to survive.
I'll think it over, but I think he needs a mount, as he is slower than the other troops...Concerning Gothmog's Warg:
While he may have rode am mount while surveying the troops, I think having him mount takes away from his role as an infantry leader, and it seems out of place for him since in combat he always was dismounted, but I guess there is no canonical reason to contest this.
I can add them, at a later timeI also had an idea - what about adding the Haradrim Serpent King - I think I've seen his name as Sulladan and Herumor in the past, though those aren't canon. He could be a recolored Rohirrim (I could probably edit the skin in the near future, though at the moment the computer that has BFMEII and my computer that has photoshop are several hundred miles apart), come with a small cadre of his body guards, and have a leadership power for evil men, a Glorious charge power for him and his bodyguard, and the ability to switch between bows and spears, and maybe a poisoned dart that immobilizes an enemy for a little while. The Haradrim king just seemed to play a memorable role in the book, and with the Orcs of Mordor getting Gothmog as their minor leader, I would like to see the men of Mordor get one as well. Plus, if you look kindly on this idea and it works well, Imrahil and his Swan-Knights could be added in similar fashion to Gondor
Smaug, maybe. Thorin, maybe a summon. Bolg, I'll add himAnd what about adding Smaug the Golden? And Thorin Oakenshield, or Bolg of the North? If you're adding Bard and Beorn, and so not sticking to LoTR timeframes, these characters that shaped the Northern world might deserve an appearance. Smaug could be effective against Dwarves and make Dwarves weaker in his presence, to reflect how he dominated them at Erebor, a pillaging power that allows allies to gain gold for kills when in his presence, and maybe capable of 'Bejeweled Beast' power that makes him resistant to arrows for a little while, or weakens a few archer units so that their arrows hardly faze him, but leave him weak enough to be slain by the Black Arrow of Bard? Thorin could be an orc-killing machine, since he did so well in the battle against Azog at Moria, with powers to increase his own killing power and a "To Me!" rallying cry that helps allies in some way. And Bolg, of course, could be a Goblin tank with leader powers, with a Marauder-like escort or something? Just thinking as I type and all
Great ideas, as alwaysThanks for putting up with my comments Of course, they are merely suggestions meant to throw ideas out there for you, so take what ya like.
I would love to have him, but don't need it right away. If I can get it at a later time, it would be great
Sûladan the Serpent Lord.. made for no reason, but if you want it I would be glad to tribute it. Perhaps you can get Mullers to bind it? I can't do that stuff. Gimme a shout if ya want it.
Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me... I wish none of this had happened...
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...
Click me
#33 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 27 May 2006 - 06:55 PM
#34
Posted 27 May 2006 - 07:40 PM
I haven't done much on it lately (had to do spend some time with the GF) but I'd say I can release something in a couple of weeks. I don't have much left, but some tweaking, and the rest of the powers. (I'd say the mod is 75 % done. BETA on 90-95& I'll guess)Wen is this finished, i have waited loooooong
Edited by King of Universe, 27 May 2006 - 07:42 PM.
Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me... I wish none of this had happened...
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...
Click me
#35
Posted 07 June 2006 - 03:09 PM
But I managed to take a screen of the change that I wanted the most. A Ringwraith mounting a horse AND fellbeast on the same hero.
http://mods.moddb.co...ry/image/43686/
Oh, don't expect too many screenshots, as the comp sucks, and it takes ages just to load up the game. I can take requests for screens though (if it's done )
EDIT: I know the pic looks like he's buggy (in the tree and stuff ) but that's just because I'm a sucky photographer
Edited by King of Universe, 07 June 2006 - 03:14 PM.
Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me... I wish none of this had happened...
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...
Click me
#36
Posted 08 June 2006 - 08:30 PM
#37
Posted 09 June 2006 - 01:14 AM
Great work with the standard matias it looks a bit better than my one eh kou
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#39
Posted 11 August 2006 - 01:36 PM
But, if the mod is to be completed in foreseeable future, help is required. It would be nice if the one I "entrusted" the codes and models for the mod were someone I knew from before, but it's not important. Thank you...
Edited by King of Universe, 11 August 2006 - 01:38 PM.
Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me... I wish none of this had happened...
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you...
Click me
#40
Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:13 PM
Hmm, now that line reminds me of Star Wars..It would be nice if the one I "entrusted" the codes and models for the mod were someone I knew from before.
Anyways, off topic, did you have 3 weeks in southern Europe? I had to drive in a "bobil" all over Norway in one week first up to Bergen, then Geiranger, then Lillehammer, then Seljord then home again 150 norwegian mil arg, good luck though
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