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#1981 Oktavia

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:07 PM

The talk about the paradox engine inner workings is nice, but in the fight between Diavolo vs. Dio who will win?



#1982 Damfoos

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:16 PM

Tbh I don't think any spoilers discovered by certain means should be made known to the public. Those materials are not supposed to be seen just yet for a reason. I'm pretty sure the devteam wants to keep certain plot twists under cover until the right moment, and putting such info into wiki kida ruins this. On the other hand, baseless assumptions shouldn't be there either if they don't have the "it is possible that...." and "judging by some events, a possible explanation might be...." disclaimers and are instead being presented as something that happens officially in the lore and has been confirmed.


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 12:00 AM

Tbh I don't think any spoilers discovered by certain means should be made known to the public. Those materials are not supposed to be seen just yet for a reason. I'm pretty sure the devteam wants to keep certain plot twists under cover until the right moment, and putting such info into wiki kida ruins this. On the other hand, baseless assumptions shouldn't be there either if they don't have the "it is possible that...." and "judging by some events, a possible explanation might be...." disclaimers and are instead being presented as something that happens officially in the lore and has been confirmed.

 

So what? There is nothing with that, everywhere people do that with warnings of "spoiler pls don't continue reading" etc.

 

Besides it is easy to re-edit and fix stuff


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#1984 Derxwna Kapsyla

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 01:25 AM

There's a difference between spoilers of released/confirmed content, and spoilers of content that isn't released and still in development. One is more likely to change as opposed to the other, and the unreleased content is only available to people who A) Datamine or B) Have access to internal builds, which somewhat goes against what you're allowed to do as a beta tester (If I remember correctly, you weren't allowed do streams of the internal build unless it was sanctioned by the development team).



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 08:25 AM

Wait a minute

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 08:45 AM

It's a Gharial, and also some Foehn units are supposed to be an Euro Alliance units.


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 10:44 AM

And you can see Gharials in Heartwork, right in the opening scene even.

Heck, if we take the "rumours" in the Zorbtrotters description as having some basis in MO fact, then Foehn gets their stuff from everyone.



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 11:13 AM

Heck, if we take the "rumours" in the Zorbtrotters description as having some basis in MO fact, then Foehn gets their stuff from everyone.

 

Given the fact they're a resistance movement made of most of the rest of free world after Epsilon's victory, that's pretty much a given.



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:38 PM

 

Heck, if we take the "rumours" in the Zorbtrotters description as having some basis in MO fact, then Foehn gets their stuff from everyone.

 

Given the fact they're a resistance movement made of most of the rest of free world after Epsilon's victory, that's pretty much a given.

 

 

Well, yeah, but I was referring in particular to the suggestion that Zorbtrotters might be Epsilon defectors.  Hmm, Scorpion Cell adepts maybe?



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:00 PM


 

 

Well, yeah, but I was referring in particular to the suggestion that Zorbtrotters might be Epsilon defectors.  Hmm, Scorpion Cell adepts maybe?

 

Not impossible, if there are really traitors inside Epsilon.



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:28 PM

Scorpion Cell is the most loose here, it's anything but impossible.

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 12:24 AM

 


 

 

Well, yeah, but I was referring in particular to the suggestion that Zorbtrotters might be Epsilon defectors.  Hmm, Scorpion Cell adepts maybe?

 

Not impossible, if there are really traitors inside Epsilon.

 

 

Memory Dealer had already stated that there is rogue members that sabotage the Psychic Beacon there. Neither Allied or Soviet side backed that.


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#1993 Oktavia

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 03:46 AM

Not impossible, if there are really traitors inside Epsilon.


Yeah, Rahn openly mocks the Proselyte, Malver has a "failsafe" installed and Libra is controlled by Cerebral Suppressor. But traitors? Nah, can't happen.

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 04:02 AM

 

Not impossible, if there are really traitors inside Epsilon.


Yeah, Rahn openly mocks the Proselyte, Malver has a "failsafe" installed and Libra is controlled by Cerebral Suppressor. But traitors? Nah, can't happen.

 

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 06:07 AM

 

 

Not impossible, if there are really traitors inside Epsilon.


Yeah, Rahn openly mocks the Proselyte, Malver has a "failsafe" installed and Libra is controlled by Cerebral Suppressor. But traitors? Nah, can't happen.

 

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There's also the Initiate allies on stormbringer that appears on the first base after successfully defending the Weather control device, odd that no one has yet to notice this.



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Posted 15 March 2017 - 06:26 AM

 

 

 

Not impossible, if there are really traitors inside Epsilon.


Yeah, Rahn openly mocks the Proselyte, Malver has a "failsafe" installed and Libra is controlled by Cerebral Suppressor. But traitors? Nah, can't happen.

 

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There's also the Initiate allies on stormbringer that appears on the first base after successfully defending the Weather control device, odd that no one has yet to notice this.

 

We have, but it's more of an AI bug than an actual stuff


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 08:46 AM

Yes, its an AI issue.



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Posted 15 March 2017 - 06:06 PM

 

 

Not impossible, if there are really traitors inside Epsilon.


Yeah, Rahn openly mocks the Proselyte, Malver has a "failsafe" installed and Libra is controlled by Cerebral Suppressor. But traitors? Nah, can't happen.

 

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Well, 'rogue taskforce' could also have meant that some still free Soviets did it. The real questions would be how many traitors, where, since when, and do they survive Yuri and his cronies' probable purge to join the Foehn, without talking about the number of survivors.



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 07:19 AM

Well, 'rogue taskforce' could also have meant that some still free Soviets did it. The real questions would be how many traitors, where, since when, and do they survive Yuri and his cronies' probable purge to join the Foehn, without talking about the number of survivors.

 

We already know that some people are immune or at least incredibly resistant to psychic beacons and mind control. Potential defectors disagreeing with Yuri's (Epsilon's) vision of the world might exist among Yuri's commanders (officers? proselytes?). They might attempt to run away, turn themselves in and join surviving Soviets/Allies or even the newly created Foehn. There are many means of escape: the game has enough units like subterranean APCs or stealth tanks which can help them run. We already know that Yuri has to use failsafe plans to ensure loyalty of the most dangerous elements within his empire, so, I guess, someone will run away or at least try to do it, tampering with the failsafe stuff.



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 10:21 AM

I'm taking the #2000 post.


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