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Posted 05 November 2018 - 02:57 PM

You want to do missions by saving every 30 seconds? Sure, but I'm just gonna go ahead and skip it

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 04:48 PM

You want to do missions by saving every 30 seconds? Sure, but I'm just gonna go ahead and skip it

It depends to the players actually if I think about it well..... 

My bad then, although I was thinking that save and load exist, maybe the missions could raise there difficulties, even a bit... I like the old Red Dawn Rising from 3.0, just saying lol


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Posted 17 December 2018 - 06:37 AM

Some conjectures about Yunru and Uragan:
 
1. Yunru can be considered as "Foehn's Gaia" (although Foehn Revolt is an objective faction).
 
In Greek mythology Gaia is the god of the earth and the mother of the gods; and Yunru is the founder and first leader of Foehn, and her secondary weapon is the ground breaker.
 
2.Uragan can be considered as "Foehn's Uranus".
 
Uranus is the first god that Gaia gave birth to, and the names of the two are similar, all with the prefix of Ura-; Uragan is also a flying unit and coincides with the identity of the Uranus.
 
Last Bastion is the first sub-faction to appear, and Uragan might be the first offensive AI Yunru designed. Uranus also symbolizes hopeness.

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Posted 23 December 2018 - 03:38 PM

Some conjectures about Yunru and Uragan:
 
1. Yunru can be considered as "Foehn's Gaia" (although Foehn Revolt is an objective faction).
 
In Greek mythology Gaia is the god of the earth and the mother of the gods; and Yunru is the founder and first leader of Foehn, and her secondary weapon is the ground breaker.
 
2.Uragan can be considered as "Foehn's Uranus".
 
Uranus is the first god that Gaia gave birth to, and the names of the two are similar, all with the prefix of Ura-; Uragan is also a flying unit and coincides with the identity of the Uranus.
 
Last Bastion is the first sub-faction to appear, and Uragan might be the first offensive AI Yunru designed. Uranus also symbolizes hopeness.

That's......well,I don't know what to say.I didn't look at it that way.
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 01:20 PM

Although this is a mod from Command and Conquer Generals Zero Hour, but from the unit designs reminded me a lot to the Foehn arsenal. 

 

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Posted 22 November 2019 - 09:33 PM

I have a question or minor theory about the Foehn Revolt. Is Eureka, Tanya's Daughter? We don't know how many years down the line the actualy war between actual advanced Foehn and Epsilon takes place, and maybe somewhere down the line, the Allied hero has a child?

 

Maybe she's a "tired old dog" and its time for the daughter to step up and make the family proud?

 

I thought about this because both the USA and Coronia both use Air Power to have supremacy, while both Tanya and Eureka excel at killing ground units, albeit the latter is more specialized on vehicles.

 

Am I wrong, or nah? Thank you for your time. 



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Posted 11 January 2020 - 11:08 PM

I have a question or minor theory about the Foehn Revolt. Is Eureka, Tanya's Daughter? We don't know how many years down the line the actualy war between actual advanced Foehn and Epsilon takes place, and maybe somewhere down the line, the Allied hero has a child?

Maybe she's a "tired old dog" and its time for the daughter to step up and make the family proud?

I thought about this because both the USA and Coronia both use Air Power to have supremacy, while both Tanya and Eureka excel at killing ground units, albeit the latter is more specialized on vehicles.

Am I wrong, or nah? Thank you for your time.


My guess it is ten years down the line, just like how Archetype was ten years before WW3

You statement about Tanya makes me wonder about which heroes make it to Act 3

Noriko - DEAD, though both Foehn and Epsilon could make Clones of him

Siegfried and Tanya - Both could be alive and part of Foehn

Volkov and his dog - Could be alive but under Epsilon control

Malver - Probably dead via suicidal mission, rescuing Yunru and Rashid my guess


Sad that both the Allied and Soviet Commanders are dead by the end of Act 2

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 01:12 PM

I have a question or minor theory about the Foehn Revolt. Is Eureka, Tanya's Daughter? We don't know how many years down the line the actualy war between actual advanced Foehn and Epsilon takes place, and maybe somewhere down the line, the Allied hero has a child?

Maybe she's a "tired old dog" and its time for the daughter to step up and make the family proud?

I thought about this because both the USA and Coronia both use Air Power to have supremacy, while both Tanya and Eureka excel at killing ground units, albeit the latter is more specialized on vehicles.

Am I wrong, or nah? Thank you for your time.


My guess it is ten years down the line, just like how Archetype was ten years before WW3

You statement about Tanya makes me wonder about which heroes make it to Act 3

Noriko - DEAD, though both Foehn and Epsilon could make Clones of him

Siegfried and Tanya - Both could be alive and part of Foehn

Volkov and his dog - Could be alive but under Epsilon control

Malver - Probably dead via suicidal mission, rescuing Yunru and Rashid my guess


Sad that both the Allied and Soviet Commanders are dead by the end of Act 2
Maybe Uragan is an AI reincarnation of Norio.

Depends on whether Siegfried and Tanya got to East Asia.

Impossible.Volkov and Chitzkoi are probably dead by now.

If so, that would be quite the tragedy.

Ummm..you missed out Morales.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 01:26 PM

That's cause Morales dies in Thread of Dread.


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 03:03 PM

I don't think Allied Commander would be dead, they lead the attack on Antarctica. My thinking is he gets mind controlled by the mental Omega device.

Soviet Commander is still in space remember?

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Posted 03 March 2020 - 04:51 AM

This sounds trivial but curiously, it seems that Eureka is the only Foehn human infantry that is not wearing a helmet or at least head protection, based from her cameo and her in-game appearance. I wonder if that implies something special about her....


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Posted 03 March 2020 - 07:15 AM

This sounds trivial but curiously, it seems that Eureka is the only Foehn human infantry that is not wearing a helmet or at least head protection, based from her cameo and her in-game appearance. I wonder if that implies something special about her....


She is a child. I don't think Foehn cyborgdize her because she is still developing

Soviet Commander dies at Moscow killing Yuri. Allied Commander sacrifices himself to stop Mental Omega. Epsilon is forced to rely on the inferior Psychic Amplifliers and Beacons as well as brute force to keep humanity in line

The Moon does become a Foehn base when the Soviet Remnants are absorbed. Though it is repeatedly attacked by Epsilon

After defeating Epsilon, Foehn recreates Albert Einstein's time machine and sends an older Eureka to when Einstein is a child. Eureka changes history so much that humanity has a much better future

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Posted 06 March 2020 - 09:27 AM

There's a flaw in that theory : Speeder said there will be no Time Machine or Time Travel involved


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Posted 08 March 2020 - 07:03 AM

Exactly.The Red Alert series depends too much on time travel.Heck, even the Corona Mod for RA3 relies on Tatsu travelling back in time and providing the Mongols with his technology in order to set up a origin story for the Celestial Empire.It would have been better if they instead focused on Yuriko and made her create her own army by stealing advanced Allied,Soviet and Rising Sun technologies and coming up with some tech ideas of her own.

Whoa,I digress.But seriously,Foehn not engaging in time travel will be good for a change.
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Posted 12 March 2020 - 06:27 AM

Exactly.The Red Alert series depends too much on time travel.Heck, even the Corona Mod for RA3 relies on Tatsu travelling back in time and providing the Mongols with his technology in order to set up a origin story for the Celestial Empire.It would have been better if they instead focused on Yuriko and made her create her own army by stealing advanced Allied,Soviet and Rising Sun technologies and coming up with some tech ideas of her own.

Whoa,I digress.But seriously,Foehn not engaging in time travel will be good for a change.


Very bittersweet ending as there would be a billion people left that Foehn has to lead. A few million clones to rehabilitate

Cloning to 'revive' the dead and Grinders to recycle unneeded warmachines. Foehn soldiers and AI become administrators

Don't want to start a war, but Rashid's beliefs might be a problem post-Epsilon

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:37 AM

 

Don't want to start a war, but Rashid's beliefs might be a problem post-Epsilon

 

 

Bluntly told, he would have to live to reach that point. Not only it looks like it took a while for Foehn to go for Round 3, but his anti-mind control drugs are specifically said to be lethal long-term, so I don't think he has that long left.

 

Besides, being on the victors' side of such a war? If he survived, I would guess he'd reap enough benefits to not be a problem.



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Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:38 AM

If Foehn can clone people, then they wouldn't have the lack of army as was said in their unit descriptions, and I don't think they'd even resort to cloning peeps


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Posted 24 March 2020 - 02:08 PM

Exactly.The Red Alert series depends too much on time travel.Heck, even the Corona Mod for RA3 relies on Tatsu travelling back in time and providing the Mongols with his technology in order to set up a origin story for the Celestial Empire.It would have been better if they instead focused on Yuriko and made her create her own army by stealing advanced Allied,Soviet and Rising Sun technologies and coming up with some tech ideas of her own.

Whoa,I digress.But seriously,Foehn not engaging in time travel will be good for a change.


Very bittersweet ending as there would be a billion people left that Foehn has to lead. A few million clones to rehabilitate

Cloning to 'revive' the dead and Grinders to recycle unneeded warmachines. Foehn soldiers and AI become administrators

Don't want to start a war, but Rashid's beliefs might be a problem post-Epsilon
You completely missed the point of my remark.I was protesting against any incorporation of time travel in the plot.To buttress my point,I mentioned the Corona Mod.

My assumption is that the Foehn High Command has a "Destroy on sight" protocol regarding Cloning Vats,so there is no way they would use them.As for the Grinder,well,Foehn has the Reprocessor to deal with salvage ops.

Rashidi living that long would be a miracle in itself.His anti-psionic drugs may eventually get the better of him-the question is when-before Act 3 or during Act 3?
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Posted 24 March 2020 - 02:14 PM

I wonder if there is scope for some battles between the Foehn Revolt and the Epsilon Army to occur in space(Take Epsilon's Martian base for example).We could also have Foehn set up facilities around Jupiter,Saturn,Uranus and Neptune (On their moons,to be more precise).That would be something exciting,to say the least.Epsilon on the other hand could set up extra bases on Mercury and Venus.
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Posted 27 March 2020 - 03:15 PM

I wonder if there is scope for some battles between the Foehn Revolt and the Epsilon Army to occur in space(Take Epsilon's Martian base for example).We could also have Foehn set up facilities around Jupiter,Saturn,Uranus and Neptune (On their moons,to be more precise).That would be something exciting,to say the least.Epsilon on the other hand could set up extra bases on Mercury and Venus.

You mean Lunar base, not Martian base.

 

No point for both factions to even conquer other planets and their moons, as there is no ore or strategic importance in any of them. Epsilon only took over the Moon to make a fortress wherein they experiment with Libra and her clones without interference until the Soviets arrived (which is implied in many missions and briefings such as Earthrise and Dance of Blood).


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