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#1281 Wayward Winds

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 02:30 PM

Also, notice the theme of the Foehn origin mission names.

1) "Nobody Home" - there's no sign of life, probably due to the "hibernation".

2) "Kill the Messenger" - Someone spots Bastion base too early, so obviously you want to off them before they alert Yuri.

3) "The Remnant" - ...I think this one speaks for itself.

 

Whoops on the Bastion location, I somehow missed that.  I do remember Haihead's loading screen being a confused mess though, which makes sense if they don't actually have their own base of operations (either because they're based in Bastion as well, or because their operational doctrine is more akin to guerrilla movements with no fixed abode) and Epsilon are still hunting for a base that doesn't exist.  Hard to miss the massive great hurricane surrounding Coronia though...

 

Another reason I'm betting Foehn's development proper starts in Act 2 is because at that point Yuri is a clear and serious threat rather than this vague oddity skulking around in the shadows and only showing hints of its ulterior motives known through a handful of seemingly disconnected anomalies.  He wasn't exactly open until we hit Moonlight, so expecting someone to think "hey, there's a massive threat that we need to build a whole new army to counter" before then might be expecting too much.

 

...Of course, I could just be barking up the wrong tree in the wrong forest again.



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Posted 17 December 2016 - 02:39 PM

I wonder if there will be a Polar Storm-reversed mission, where you play as the defenders. Probably not as Allied, but Foehn against Epsilon army in Alaska after Yuri finally found where the Bastion is.

Would probably result in a big failure for Epsilon, and thus become a turning point for the revolt.


Edited by X1Destroy, 17 December 2016 - 02:41 PM.

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#1283 aethiraes

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 04:17 PM

Indeed, Reprocessor makes players think twice before attacking Foehn base. This is a type of faction where blind rushes against them only make them stronger. Even some harrassments have to be considered else it will benefit Foehn more.


I didn't think of that actually. I use Foehn very offensively. The units are expensive, but if you know proper counters, you can win engagements, get cash, and spam infantry and units as though they weren't expensive at all. I haven't tried turtling, but it'd be interesting to see if you can build an impenetrable wall.

A Last Bastion strategy could be rush the reprocessor, wall off your entire base. Build sonic emitters (lol they can bypass walls). Build Knightframes (shrike nests seem kinda weak). Cram all of your important buildings together around one square, build a signal jammer. Lol I spent $6000 on signal jammers and you spent $5000 on Nuke? That's cute, why don't you train some wallets and send them to my base. Get Plasmerizer. Build Buzzards to counter Cadre/Dunerider/Pyros. Mastodon wall. You are now the Last Bastion.

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 04:53 PM

One spydriller to break it all :3



#1285 aethiraes

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 05:05 PM

gg epsilon wp

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 05:07 PM

They. WILL. REMEMBER.

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Posted 18 December 2016 - 07:23 AM

I dunno where to really put this, but I was wondering what ever happened to the tutorial campaign that was talked about a while back? I still don't know how to properly attack move.



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Posted 18 December 2016 - 07:55 AM

I think i broke Epsilon Mission 3


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#1289 lordoflinks

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Posted 18 December 2016 - 09:25 AM

Why don't Foehn get gates? 

Also it is evil to force you to invade London after "Sunlight"



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Posted 18 December 2016 - 10:05 AM

Foehn's gates are the stun grid and turmoil grid, I think. Gates are basically about trying to stop enemy units, while still allowing your units to pass. So they fit.


Edited by Solais, 18 December 2016 - 10:06 AM.


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Posted 18 December 2016 - 10:28 AM

Also it is evil to force you to invade London after "Sunlight"

 

After witnessing Panic Cycle, Unshakeable, Singularity, I will assume that evil is standard fare.


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#1292 Solais

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Posted 18 December 2016 - 10:45 AM

So midas, what do you think of the new girls? :p



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Posted 18 December 2016 - 11:39 AM

Will any of them die in the end of act II?

 


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Posted 18 December 2016 - 12:13 PM

Foehn's gates are the stun grid and turmoil grid, I think. Gates are basically about trying to stop enemy units, while still allowing your units to pass. So they fit.


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 06:44 PM

I wondered today if all 3 commanders might not end up working for the Foehn in the end.  The Allied commander would be a natural fit for the Last Bastion considering that he/she is always running these last gambit defense ops.   Meanwhile I have this weird gut feeling that the Epsilon Proselyte is going to end up betrayed by Yuri in the end, or growing a conscience, and they would be a good fit for the alpha strike tactics of Haihead.  Meanwhile I guess the Soviet commander gets drunk and decides to Coronia it up.



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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:20 PM

Well, given the backstories given for Foehn's units and the stolen tech units,  pretty sure we're going for Epsilon juggernaut with Foehn Revolt alone against it, more or less. If the commanders are alive, either they are mind controlled or part of Foehn.

 

On a last point, we  could have (perhaps) a Soviet remnant under Yunru's command.


Edited by Hardric62, 19 December 2016 - 07:54 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 10:35 PM

Well, given the backstories given for Foehn's units and the stolen tech units,  pretty sure we're going for Epsilon juggernaut with Foehn Revolt alone against it, more or less. If the commanders are alive, either they are mind controlled or part of Foehn.

 

On a last point, we  could have (perhaps) a Soviet remnant under Yunru's command.

I don't think that Yunru is particularly fond of anything Soviet, considering her story. If anything's she'd defect as soon as the opportunity presents itsel, unless she can forgive her superiors for the good of all.

 

I really hope that the Epsilon won't turn out as the stereotypical saturday morning cartoon villians, and Yuri has an actual motivation to do what he does, other than "LOL world domination".


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 10:49 PM

He has a motivation.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:29 AM

Doesn't Yuri say in one of the act one missions that he wanted to end all war and finally unite humanity? Despite his twisted methods and actions, that is what an Epsilon world would achieve



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Posted 20 December 2016 - 03:39 AM

See? He just wants everyone to be happy, and he assumes by getting rid of our wants and stuff, we will live in eternal happiness.

 

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