A week or so ago Greece defaulted! Greece has finally started it! The first domino to fall! But you may not have heard much about this, simply because they don't want you to hear about it in full. Still, I know You HAVE to check this article out, because I know alot of you guys are really into, your current world:
Before you reply, you have some reading and/or thinking/studying to do, and FOR ONCE! Its actually not spam, or brony bashing. I swear on some guy's grave.
Now, in regards to your potential replies? I promise to be a gentleman the whole time. We'll take it slow, my darlings. We don't want to stretch you out too fast! You might bleed! Read the original thread if you have time, before you try to refute in full, my linked article's synopsis. Do not make the same mistake Graion did. In the original thread, check out what graion tried to brand my article as. Its hilarious! I thought this guy was supposed to be smart?
Seriously, pay attention, when you get a chance. I actually did not spam. HALLELUJAH!
Edited by DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr, 16 July 2015 - 06:09 AM.
Are you familiar with Revorians and their legendary debates? Obviously not, if you think being a gentleman is a good idea.
I'm not too familiar with Europe stuff, but I do know Greece is obliviously poor. Bankrupt beyond comprehension. These days, basic rights and dignity are rarely motivations for entire civilizations resorting to drastic measures. They want to separate themselves from Europe, probably because they think that absolves their debts, or something stupid.
Although, that article is a bit cheese. Taking a bunch of obnoxiously tan geriatrics that are obsessed with gyros and Alexander the Great and comparing them to to American pulp mafia is... well... retarded. I try not to take authors seriously anyway, when they resort to using a hammy mouthful of exclamation points. Present party not included OF COURSE.
Dayum, your good. We have much to discuss. Did you read the article in full? I think you did. I HOPE YOU DID.
Very nice reply, the best so far... I'll have to take some time to completely refute it. Although... you don't know much about Europe? You don't know anything about banking cartels? Goldman Sachs? Thats not a good sign.
Now, can you actually refute the strategy presented in the article? Basically, what do you believe in, you bony brony? How do you think the world actually works? Can you actually refute the criminal activity presented? Because all you've done is associate popular media with the banking cartel and company's strategy, albeit in a very excellent matter. Bravo chum. But I need you to try harder... you don't like caps locks? Tough luck. Its not so difficult to look past anyways. Now focus. Can you, refute? Can you disprove the presented fact of bankster cartels & company messing with Greece?
I will get back to you though to fully address your first foray. Its been the most entertaining so far! My current reply is sub standard, and I apologize.
Oh man, this is gonna be good! You've thrown many a bone for me to pick at.
EDIT: So you've ventured into my linked article, at least. Why thank you for your time! Now try to check out the original thread on PPM. Forum user "G-E" and "OmegaBolt" add some very nice additions that which back up my linked article. Plus the rest of those guys are pretty entertaining too.
Edited by DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr, 16 July 2015 - 08:40 AM.
And I can't disprove any of this stuff, just as much as "Gordon" can't really prove any of his stuff. It's just cue-tipping out random financial quotas and patterns that looks like Babyface Buchiani stuffed a bunch of tax money into a horse head and hid it under his luffa tree. I know we want Greece to look like some sort of mastermind financial empire that duped millions of people (wait... we do?) but really, it really just looks like they actually don't know what they're doing. Hang on... Greece has immature leaders that have no experience? Surely people that use language that looks like it came from a Call of Duty chat room are masters of misappropriation. But unlucky for them, your everyday E-I-E-I-Joe named "Gordon" broke their money ring by shoving together 4-5 news pieces and calling it a conspiracy themed jigsaw puzzle. He needed to use lots of exclamation points and bold fonts just so his disappointed uncle from Colorado can be excited with him about fake news. No... Greece was not "made to fail" just so it could actually make bank in some loopy way. Greek politics was not written by Mel Brooks.
@Pasidon: Thats some nice creative writing you got there. I'll probably dissect those two posts of yours later, because, c'mon, man. They're just filler, and they do not disprove my linked article, although it seems you realize that, so thats a start! All you've done is insult the article, and good job on that.
But those are not random financial quotas and patterns. If you did your research you'd realize that, although it is alot of crap to digest, so I don't blame you for not. Also.... Greece being a mastermind financial empire that duped millions? What the hell are you talking about, and where did you get that from out of the linked article? The article doesn't say anything about that. Immature leaders with no experience? Greece's leader was a former employee of Goldman Sachs, which is part of the banking cartel. He was brought in about a year ago. He was the leg into Greece for the banking cartels. You also need to realize that these banks are not government run, they are all private. These banks are the ones that own the money of most countries around the world, and thats what the article is talking about. For example, the Federal Reserve, despite its name, is not run by the american government. They're privately owned, and they get to print the money. Federal Reserve, the Rothschild's bank, Goldman Sachs - these are some of the guys that are part of the banking cartel.
You might not like Gordon's writing style, but hes done his research. You haven't. Thanks for admitting that though, it saves some time.
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So, people, you don't like this article? Well, to kill this threat to your sense, you'll all have to actually try to argue against the main subject of the it, which is:
The banking cartels responsibility for Greece and a ton more country's debt enslavement over a long period of time. I'm talking before world war one at least, these cartels have been going at it for a while.
Now the following video is 3 fucking hours long, and I'm sorry about that, but, since I'm going off for the weekend, it'll have to do. This video will explain alot of things that pasidon and probably everyone else here (cause no one else has posted anything yet) have no clue about. The video gives alot of backstory on the banking cartels.
If any of you actually have the will to refute my linked articles summary of greece & banksters, that'd be very interesting. If your lacking in knowledge about how banking cartels work, if you don't even know what they are, then I recommend the following video. Just take it in steps until you've actually watched the whole thing. After watching and paying attention to the video, you should have a decent grasp on the situation I have presented.
This video is not "paid for". Its against the interest of the banks.
Also, heres a quote from a a guy's post at the PPM Site thread:
The best thing Greece can do on it's own not to leave the EU is just to switch to a new currency, issue enough to cover all the bonds held by the banks, and decide what their value is using a limited supply. The best thing the EU can do, is collectively decide to cut Greece's debt, and amortize the rest at low low interest over a longer time scale, but this has to be accompanied by investment.
There's literally no point talking about Tsipras at this point, he's become just another rape victim staggering around questioning reality. It's now a fight between the Greek people and the bankers/Germans. The IMF wants out of the bad deal, and they are even pleading for the EU to be more reasonable, without outright criticizing them. The European people are divided, the troika is divided, the EU and America are divided... and the people all over the world are being screwed by the mistakes (or deliberate actions) of the few. Shades of rise of Nazi Germany from the failed Weimar republic.
Pasidon is not really making a mistake, like Graion did from the PPM thread of this same subject. But, like Graion, Pasidon hasn't presented any proper refutation. All hes done is just made fun of the author's writing style, basically, plus he doesn't know much about the subject in the first place. His two posts are kinda close to spam. But I like his style, hes fucking hilarious. And me of all people will not care if its spam. As long as its entertaining. Now, this video will bring pasidon up to speed! He might even like the change of perspective he gets from it. But hes got alot of information to take in. Good luck, pal.
Edited by DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr, 18 July 2015 - 08:01 AM.
I think all we can do is make fun of writing styles, really. Even if your conspiracy-fueled rant had any merit to it (which, considering the nature of conspiracy theorists, I highly doubt), we still wouldn't bother deciphering your incredibly dense writing or watch those videos.
My point is; you might be posting this stuff on the wrong forum.
I don't think the word "Greece" has even been used on the forums before.
Well, I almost read all of that. Good thing I didn't. Here's some more funky fresh filler to keep you entertained, whilst I continue to accurately derail your one article. You might not realize that I'm not doing hours of research for a debate I don't really care about, and that this topic was based around a single article of a guy claiming that the Greek government is secretly ham-fisting the common Greecer into secret submission. That's what I picked up from the article, and that's what I'm debating. Could I believe that? Sure. Do I? No. But Gordon said so! Erm... who else is saying so? You? Are you Gordon? Who cares. What I care about is that some random guy thinks Greece is Nucky Thomson's illegitimate son, and that they're undermining their own infrastructure in order to cash in. I care about that, because it's stupid.
Let's have some more fun filler to derail this article. Really... I goolged the sin out of this, and no one else is really saying anything as bonkers as this guy. It's just some anonymous guy named after everyone's favorite Half-Life character, and he's going on a "did his research" spree that literally no one else is supporting. That's fun. I didn't even have to do my research. Everyone else on the internet did it for me, and that's why no one else in the realm cares. But Gordon did his research... he has a grand total of 2-3 references in his article, and 2 of those are YouTube videos. Hey... how come I can't post a bunch of random things, claim them as facts, and get away with it on my archaeology papers? Gordon is so cool... he can just say stuff that sounds true and gets away with it. We'll take his words for it though, right? Neh... I'll cut the filler before your dry eyes start t bleed... no. I won't. Post a better article saying the same thing (not by some anonymous dingle berry) that's actually not mindless bold exclamation point dribble. THEN maybe you can have an actual debate about the politics with... someone. I dunno. Or, in fact, get your references from someplace better than "The Tap." AKA Conspiracy Con 2015.
But I'll cut to some even funner derailment, without the filler. My google searches did get me one result, and it was the exact same article, except from the actual source. This "Gordon" bump-nick is actually Shawn Helton, who is infamous for posting the most obnoxiously fake conspiracy crap on the planet, based on 1-2 pieces of gossip. If you enjoyed Saucy Shawn's take on Greece being Al Capone's playground, then you might also enjoy his lovely article on the Charleston Shooting, and how he thinks there's a massive political conspiracy based on the shooter attending one bible meeting before the gun-action. And some "that's not a coincidence!" political action that followed shortly after:
What a genius of our time... he who can smell conspiracy from a whiff of absolute tosh. No, these articles are absolute corn, and all this guy does is post a bunch of theories rather than doing actual, documented research. These theories might sound startlingly true, since these leaders are ex mafioso cons, or whatever and whatnot... but it still doesn't make for good debate without hours of research. What does make for good debate is how gullible this Shawn guy is, and his adoring fan-base of 40-50 people. How many times does this guy have to cry wolf before people like you realize that conspiracy theories require more than just fact hunting? Because I count a grand total of 1, 2, 3... 9 different conspiracy theories on this author's front page alone, and I bet it doesn't stop there. Stop being gullible.
You don't get it, Pas. He can't post another (legitimate) article backing up these claims, because The System™ suppresses The Truth™. This is a failsafe mechanism; no matter what you say, you're just Not Getting It™.
It's a very particular world view, thinking that there's actually people scheming behind the scenes to these ridiculous extents. There's some interesting (and scientific!) articles on the subject of these conspiring minds.
Uscinski and Parent note that in laboratory experiments “researchers have found that inducing anxiety or loss of control triggers respondents to see nonexistent patterns and evoke conspiratorial explanations” and that in the real world “there is evidence that disasters (e.g., earthquakes) and other high-stress situations (e.g., job uncertainty) prompt people to concoct, embrace, and repeat conspiracy theories.”
Basically, convincing yourself that you know 'what is really going on' (by creating patterns and filling in gaps connecting facts) helps people feel empowered and less at the mercy of the brutal randomness and confusion of the real world.