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#1 alioop

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 01:52 PM

hey all

just like it says: cant see the Apocalypse tank in Russian army

the computer has it but me as player i dont! not even my friends, so please help why?



#2 BeigeRage

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 02:43 PM

You need to use a Sabouteur and infiltrate a Soviet Battle Lab and MCV as Soviets. The computer probably did that and started building them. As for the Apocolypse tanks that were in RA2 are used in Latin Confederation as Catastrophe tanks.


Edited by BeigeRage, 21 July 2015 - 02:45 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:07 PM

It's Stolen Tech in MP and campaign exclusive.


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 09:51 PM

Apocalypse Tank is a soviet-soviet stolenn tech, which requires you to infiltrate both the a soviet conyard and a soviet battle lab to be able to build. The AI can sometimes act like as if it is above the rules and starts producing stuff which it shouldn't do. It's rather unusual, but it can happen.

Apocalypse Tank isn't campaign exclusive, because stolen techs are ,as far as I know disabled, and currently no mission includes Apocalypse Tank production. In certain missions you can get Apocalypse Tank as reinforcements, or mind control some of them, but that's all.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:10 PM

You need to:

  1. Play as a Soviet faction. Allied and Epsilon factions will never get to build an Apoc, but get the Stolen Soviet MCV if you do (2).
  2. Infiltrate a Soviet ConYard and a Soviet Battle Lab.
  3. Just in case, own a Soviet War Factory and a Soviet Battle Lab after infiltrating.

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#6 alioop

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 10:30 AM

ok so i did what you all said, soviet faction-->soviet ConY--->War Factory--->Palace--->industrial plant

and still dont have apocalypse



#7 BeigeRage

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 12:03 PM

All of us told you that you have to infiltrate a Soviet MCV and Battle Lab as a Soviet Faction.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 12:03 PM

Build Soviet War Factory and a Soviet Lab (any), infiltrate a Soviet ConYard and a Soviet Lab (any).

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#9 alioop

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 06:05 AM

how do i infiltrate a Soviet ConYard and a Soviet Lab?



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Posted 23 July 2015 - 06:47 AM

You use Saboteurs, the Soviet spies



#11 alioop

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:22 PM

ok it worked 

its so stupid that it works like that...



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Posted 23 July 2015 - 03:38 PM

It's really not.

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#13 alioop

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 08:49 PM

in my opinion it is... it should be as Default.. but besides that i love the mod



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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:20 PM

Apocalypse as default unit? Then soviets were about spamming Apoc Tanks.



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 06:26 AM

In that case you might as well make Deviators and Future Tanks default... it'd be like Nuwa Wars 2.0! :p



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 09:02 AM

Might aswell make Voyagers oneshot everything >.>



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 03:55 PM

Might be slightly off topic but, how can the AI build an apoc when they only have an Allied enemy? (team A (1) vs. team B (7) skirmish)

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 04:29 PM

Because the AI is a cheating scumbag [insert tvtropes link].

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 05:09 PM

There's not a single reference to the Apocalypse in the skirmish AI file, not sure where you got AI building Apocalypses.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:52 AM

My only guess is that you encounter Apocalypses in the campaign. The AI does not build them either in the campaign; their Apocalypses are pre-placed (Epsilon 12: Moonlight).

 

Then again, neither the main Soviet Act One campaign or the Soviet coop missions feature an enemy wielding an Apocalypse tank (an Allied coop mission features some of the more badass variants). So I am equally clueless on how said computer got it. Probably the computer is on a different game as his friend.


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