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#1 GermyFever

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 03:11 AM

So! I have some ideas relating to Mental Omega's designs, but these aren't related to the gameplay, but rather the design choices, imagery, and general cosmetics of MO. This could be sprites, UIs, stuff like that. If there's an existing forum that relates to one like this in more detail, please let me know.

 

To start this forum thread, I would like contribute some ideas for flags, as designing things like heraldry and nationally identifying symbolism seems to be a forte of mine when it comes to graphic design. The flags in Mental Omega are kind of a mixed bag IMO; on one hand, there are flags like the Pacific Front and the Euro Alliance which I really like, and on the other hand, there are flags of like the Latin Confederation which seem just kinda… eh. This first picture is an idea for an update on the Latin Confederation that I have.

 

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So, this is the idea for the flag, and it’s based on the FSLN, or the Frente Sandinista de Liberación Nacional, which in English translates to the Sandinista National Liberation Front. This is a Nicaraguan communist party which holds a significant sway in Nicaragua, and has had a cultural impact in a variety of media relating to Communism and the Cold War. Wikipedia has an article on the group, if you’re more interested: https://en.wikipedia...iberation_Front

I also have an idea for an update on the Russian flag. I think it should look a bit different from the Chinese flag to give it more identity. What I did here was take the flag from the Russian SFSR, the main provincial identification to the rest of the USSR, and gave it a white stripe behind the blue one to make it look more like Russia. I’ve posted it below:

 

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These are all opinions, but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to contribute something to the Mental Omega community. I like this mod, and I figured a graphic contribution thread might help.


Edited by GermyFever, 15 June 2016 - 05:43 PM.


#2 GermyFever

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 03:13 AM

You'll have to click and drag the Russian flag to see the white stripe; I wasn't thinking that might be a display issue when posting it. I might upload a fixed version, if you guys think I could stand to.  :/


Edited by GermyFever, 15 June 2016 - 03:13 AM.


#3 Oktavia

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 10:37 PM

Why did you shove a tri-color onto a USSR flag?



#4 Damfoos

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 10:56 PM

I think the current flags are fine for what they are meant to represent. They look more like logos and less like flags though, since flags are usually very simple. But well, an orange flag-logo with flames represents LC's hot nature much better than red-black flag be it 100 times more historically correct or not. USSR (equals to Russia in this case) is associated with its red flag, it is a known symbol, while RSFSR flag is not, and it will bring unnecessary complication. Besides, faction "Russia" is in fact USSR.

I don't think it is a good idea to bring this level of seriousness here, into a mod with anime girls as faction heroes and which is based on a game which was never serious to begin with. The visual message of these flags has priority over how much they could be correct to RL.

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 07:12 AM

Well, while we're on the topic of design choices and motifs, I'd like to praise the naming scheme for the Foehn. The use of extinct animals really gives them that "back from the brink" feel.



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Posted 18 June 2016 - 08:04 PM

Flags have been already updated for the next version to make them more distinguishable (especially Russia vs China flags).

The blue stripe flag was considered as a replacement for Russia's flag at one point, but in the end, it was China's flag that was changed. Other than that, i doubt there will be any other redesigns.

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#7 GermyFever

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 12:18 AM

@mevitar

Huh. Alright. I still think that the Confederation's flag of yellow fading into orange gradient still feels kinda weak, but you guys are the ones doing the programming and whatnot. You're the the ones patching and fixing of the mod, not me.

 

@damfoos

Yeah, I can see your point; the Red Alert series always was rather goofy. Albert Einstein erases Adolf Hitler from the timeline with a handshake. Plus, you'd probably know more about the Russian flag than me, living in Russia and all.



#8 Schottkey 7th Path

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 01:54 AM

the confederation flag looks like the symbols used for Japanese hot springs (onsen): 

 

 

But if it's going to be changed it needs avoid confusion so it should not use the Hammer & Sickle since that is for Russia. China avoids that with Stars and two bands (i have not seen the replacement flag yet). and that the flag symbols are small so they need to be simple too.


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#9 Damfoos

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 08:12 AM

@damfoos

...Plus, you'd probably know more about the Russian flag than me, living in Russia and all.

It doesn't really matter whether I know more about it or not, my point is that the USSR red flag with hammer&sickle is an ICONIC symbol of ЯED ЯUSSIAИ COMMIES, hence why it fits more that the less known flag of RSFSR (even if this flag would be more historically correct). 



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:11 PM

@damfoos

Yeah, I can see your point; the Red Alert series always was rather goofy. Albert Einstein erases Adolf Hitler from the timeline with a handshake. Plus, you'd probably know more about the Russian flag than me, living in Russia and all.

 

If not handshake, than what? A German suplex? :p


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