Jump to content


Photo

MO 3.3 // Feedback & Suggestions (Balance, New Features, Modifications etc.)


  • Please log in to reply
5127 replies to this topic

#941 CLAlstar

CLAlstar

    The one and only master of Scorpion Cell

  • Members
  • 1,095 posts
  • Location:Poland
  •  Worst MO Player

Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:21 PM



 


Ok. Video coming soon. I have this challenge figured out already.

Godspeed! Believe it or not, I had the feeling you'd be the first one to respond. I'm really looking forward to this. Bonus points if you do it without massive amounts of starting cash.

 

Here you go



#942 TeslaCruiser

TeslaCruiser

    Elitist condescending prick, Arrogant cunt

  • Members
  • 324 posts
  • Location:Chile
  •  mp bot

Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:31 PM

I have this suggestion: vulture requisites WF+field boureau + airbase

Barely see this unit on multiplayer, this modification adds a new option for LC build orders and fit their theme.

 

Hopefully this would help the little chopper to see some action



#943 CLAlstar

CLAlstar

    The one and only master of Scorpion Cell

  • Members
  • 1,095 posts
  • Location:Poland
  •  Worst MO Player

Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:52 PM

AFAIK creating somethign that requires 3 prequesitives is impossible. Note how Viruses can be made without full T3 if you have Cloning Vats.



#944 Destroyencio

Destroyencio

    Black Snow

  • Members
  • 286 posts
  • Location:I'm not Mexican you douchebag.
  • Projects:Mapper for RA2 mods.

Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:09 PM

But look how by the other part you need Tier 3 Lab to get Drakuv's from Field Bureau :p

 

I kinda like TC's idea. Maybe Vultures are not that "good" to be Tier 3 (in my opinion). But also that would kinda overload Soviets Tier 2. They already get a lot of stuff, 3 infantries (4 with LC), 'Rillos, Buggies and MCV. Wouldn't that actually be too much for simple Tier 2? Think also that Dustdevils already got moved to Tier 2 :p



#945 TeslaCruiser

TeslaCruiser

    Elitist condescending prick, Arrogant cunt

  • Members
  • 324 posts
  • Location:Chile
  •  mp bot

Posted 08 March 2017 - 10:12 PM

oh i didn´t know

 

airbase only? maybe? xD



#946 Schottkey 7th Path

Schottkey 7th Path
  • Members
  • 83 posts

Posted 08 March 2017 - 10:18 PM

Okay, how about a flying support vehicle for all Foehn? a defensive support that deploys similarly to the old vulture or the older siege chopper. but instead, it lands and deploys into a support station. equipped with a single repair beam turret for vehicles but also a healing radius for infantry. not as potent the huntress's grey goo cloud of healing but still heals all friendlies around it. this would help your knightframes going up against rocketeer and gyrocopter swarms. since those units seem better suited for dealing with such units and jets. Teratorns and Shrikes have good firepower but their delay makes them less useful against such units. so this support unit in a way can give you an alternate anti air option through the use of Knightframes. possibly give all nearby infantry a neat little firepower boost since the unit can carry ammunition to the front, your soldiers can be more generous with the additional firepower.

Since i love Foehn infantry so i would love to see more supporting options for Foehn infantry. (and to keep them alive longer since they are an investment compared to other infantry) :cool:

 

Or you can add those features to the SODAR Array carrier instead for extra utility.


Edited by Schottkey 7th Path, 08 March 2017 - 10:20 PM.

>>>>>>>> Unoffical compliation of upcoming features for the next MO Release https://forums.revor...-see/?p=1033314 <<<<<<<<


#947 Graion Dilach

Graion Dilach

    Supérior Caliburwielder

  • Project Team
  • 2,187 posts
  • Location:Iszkaszentgyörgy, Hungary
  • Projects:Infinty Engine modding, OpenHV, Attacque Supérior (sometimes)
  •  That guy you keep hearing the stories about.

Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:19 PM

AFAIK creating somethign that requires 3 prequesitives is impossible. Note how Viruses can be made without full T3 if you have Cloning Vats.


You definitely can have as many prereqs as you'd like to. AI cannot handle it on units (production triggers can only check against a single condition which tends to be the highest tier building in such case). Allied T3 even depends on the fact that there are two buildings required for that!
kuuHd4s.png6pDXsCS.png
n0J1wqE.pngIX8pBXZ.png

AS Discord server: https://discord.gg/7aM7Hm2

ComradeCrimson: AS is the product of Hungarian acid
ComradeCrimson: And magical hussars
Dutchygamer: and Weird Al.


#948 Wargame-sama

Wargame-sama
  • Members
  • 5 posts

Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:07 AM

whats my mind of idea

 

Nuclear (& EMP?) Challenge for china

 

lets say the demo truck has loaded with nuke payload like in vanilla YR/RA but sturdier and deals dmg than the average demo truck 

 

all units has from irradiation buff

 

cannon/missile armed base unit fires nuke paylord (similar like nuclear battle master in generals ZH (nuke general))

 

forgot to say that sending demo trucks at your base every 10 mins in game (similar to yuri island challange random mind control units timer) at nearby players base (either your left , right or the worst behind your base)

 

Global EMP on all vechicles (except them)  in every 7 minutes

 

Yunru has more range and a much more sturdier Siege Crawler

 

i dunno what this idea i came up with >.>


Edited by Wargame-sama, 09 March 2017 - 07:09 AM.


#949 X1Destroy

X1Destroy

    title available

  • Members
  • 660 posts
  • Location:Holy Terra

Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:15 AM

Global EMP on all vechicles (except them)  in every 7 minutes


So, spam Pteranodons and Wolfhounds then?

"Protecting the land of the Free."
efXH1rz.png
 


#950 Wargame-sama

Wargame-sama
  • Members
  • 5 posts

Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:36 AM

actually it would be better if the global emp to shut down along the aircrafts (except for them and the air inf unit like rocketeer , norio & gyrocopter) i



#951 SukaHati

SukaHati
  • Members
  • 47 posts

Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:52 AM

actually it would be better if the global emp to shut down along the aircrafts (except for them and the air inf unit like rocketeer , norio & gyrocopter) i

 

The aircraft will explode when hit by EMP. :whatoa:



#952 Wargame-sama

Wargame-sama
  • Members
  • 5 posts

Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:58 AM

for adding the fun they have a nuke from the start of the battle



#953 Handepsilon

Handepsilon

    Firestorm Gnome

  • Members
  • 2,325 posts
  • Location:Indonesia
  • Projects:Renegade X: Firestorm
  •  *intensely rolls around*

Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:26 AM

 

actually it would be better if the global emp to shut down along the aircrafts (except for them and the air inf unit like rocketeer , norio & gyrocopter) i

 

The aircraft will explode when hit by EMP. :whatoa:

 

Well, planes, maybe. The hovering aircraft would probably descend.

 

Or not, I dunno.


I like gnomes
 
YunruThinkEmoji.png
 
Visit us in Totem Arts site
(Firestorm is still SoonTM)


#954 Damfoos

Damfoos

    When world domination haven't cured the emptiness inside

  • Members
  • 870 posts
  • Location:Russia
  • Projects:Translation of various cool C&C mods.
  •  Mental Omega Russian Translator

Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:18 AM

It would be nice if China challenge had Foxtrots armed with nuclear missiles. Those would deal more damage (not insane amount of it ofc, and there would be less missiles) and leave radiation instead of flames.

#955 doctormedic

doctormedic

    Giver of Demolition trucks

  • Members
  • 508 posts

Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:16 PM

I have a weird idea of a plane made from the naval yard,it would function like a ship until you deployed it in which it would fly but making it unable to fire,this would make them useful as they could be made from the naval yard and then sent straight to a naval battle or deploy to fly away from bigger ship blobs.



#956 SPCell

SPCell
  • Members
  • 116 posts
  • Location:Russia

Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:13 PM

I have three more suggestions:
 

1. If developers don't want to add all of stolen infantry back into game, then they can reverse 3.0's situation with stolen tech: you can get stolen infantry unit only in case you infiltrate lab of the same faction. In 3.0 Soviets after infiltrating Soviet labs were getting both Cyborgs and Apocs, but while infiltrating other labs, they don't get stolen vehicles. This time the situation can be reversed with infantry. For example if you are playing as Soviets against Soviets and infiltrate the lab, you will also get Cyborg from 3.0 aside from Apocalypse. If you infiltrate other labs, you will get only stolen vehicles. For Epsilon vs Epsilon Reaper can return as a stolen infantry unit (since his beams are just like Marauder's beam). Personally I would love all of 3.0's stolen infantry come back (especially Chrono Ivan, Chrono Adept and Voltmortar), but this way I suggested would be fine too.

 

2. I'm ok with Foxtrot's damage nerf, but I think nerfing their accuracy wasn't necessary. Current Foxtrots are fine against infantry/T1 vehicle crowds, but against single targets they are really bad. For example it took me 4 Foxtrots just to kill a goddamn Navy SEAL. If their accuracy is increased from 0.25 to 0.35 or 0.45 it will be perfect IMO. This way they will be good against both single targets and crowds without being able to tech snipe like in 3.3.0.

 

3. New challenge suggestion. Dance of Blood mission inspired me to think about this one. Challenge will consist of two playable sides: attackers and defenders. Defenders consist of one human player and one AI in a heavily defended fortress on an island, but with not so good coastal defense. Attackers consist of three human players and three AIs. Defenders have to defend the center of the base until a super unit arrives in 30 minutes, but the primary objective is to destroy all human player bases. Attackers' objective is to destroy defenders. Super unit depends on the faction of a human defender player (for Allies probably Paradox Engine as a unit, for Soviets dunno, for Epsilon super-powered Irkalla or Libra or maybe even Yuri Prime and for Foehn maybe super-powered Uragan). AI defender's faction will be the same as human defender's one. The challenge begins with three AI attackers destroying coastal defense on three sides of the island. After that human attackers get their MCVs transported to the land along with some infantry and armor. AI attackers share the same color and faction as human attackers. While human attackers are building bases, AI ones will be constantly sending more and more forces to attack the fortress just like in the mission. If super unit arrives on time, AIs will stop sending reinforcements. If a human player is defeated before timer ends, then his respective AI helper will stop sending reinforcements as well. While AIs are sending reinforcements, defenders will be getting messages like "Warning, air armada/fleet/infantry battalion/armor battalion detected!". Unlike in Dance of Blood, AI defender won't be defeated so easily and will be helping the human player a lot by building his own structures and training armies. Defenders will also be getting their own reinforcements paradropped once in a while, but they won't be so big. As for air armada for attackers, I think Soviet one will be Kirovs+Wolfhounds, Allied one will be Thors/Super Thors+Warhawks, Epsilon one will be Irkalla+Floating Disks+Basilisks and Foehn one will be Quetzals+Teranodons+other Foehn aircraft. And just like in the mission, AI attackers will sometimes initiate airstrikes with their respective faction's aircraft (Foxtrots, allied planed and Dybbuks).

 

Thoughts?


Edited by SPCell, 09 March 2017 - 01:16 PM.


#957 Wargame-sama

Wargame-sama
  • Members
  • 5 posts

Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:43 PM

It would be nice if China challenge had Foxtrots armed with nuclear missiles. Those would deal more damage (not insane amount of it ofc, and there would be less missiles) and leave radiation instead of flames

 

well thats a good idea ... to make sure adds immune to mind control , abduction and confusion 

 

to the extreme level no chrono weapon based unit like Legionnaire (including Charon)

 

to add things Nuwa has more range that he can attack in range like a MBT unit or an arti unit (for extremist)


Edited by Wargame-sama, 09 March 2017 - 01:46 PM.


#958 Admiral_Pit

Admiral_Pit
  • Project Team
  • 100 posts

Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:27 PM

It would be nice if China challenge had Foxtrots armed with nuclear missiles. Those would deal more damage (not insane amount of it ofc, and there would be less missiles) and leave radiation instead of flames.

 

Apparently there's a challenge regarding Kirovs armed with nukes coming already.  I can't think of anything China atm besides its radiation, seismic activities, and Iron Dragons.

 

If there's a challenge I'm thinking about, it's an EA/Coronia one, where lightning and wind come together.  A map where rain appears, before the storm happens. Random lightning strikes and Alanqa tornadoes (without the Alanqa) roaming around and happening.  And on the field there could be indestructible Lightningrods that could attract lightning and buff enemy Thors, while there's Spinblades to well, boost Foehn things.  This is one of those challenges where keeping many units idle can get them killed by the hazards.  If a Super Thor can appear somehow accompanied by a buffed Alanqa, then that works too.  There's also an excuse to have a Lightning Storm + Great Tempest appear at the greatest peak of a storm happening.  And there's no Naval btw.

 

Could call it a Windstorm Challenge, unless there's a better synonym for a storm.


Edited by Admiral_Pit, 09 March 2017 - 03:33 PM.

"Knowledge is Power."  -Yunru

#959 Solais

Solais

    Conspiracy Theorist

  • Members
  • 1,648 posts

Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:39 PM

A challenge where you defend against an endless stream of Centurions filled with the best infantry, Irkallas and Paradox Engines, MADMEN, while bombarded by Boidmachines and Harbingers.



#960 Handepsilon

Handepsilon

    Firestorm Gnome

  • Members
  • 2,325 posts
  • Location:Indonesia
  • Projects:Renegade X: Firestorm
  •  *intensely rolls around*

Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:41 PM

And call it Ironman Challenge?

I like gnomes
 
YunruThinkEmoji.png
 
Visit us in Totem Arts site
(Firestorm is still SoonTM)





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users