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[Three Elven Rings]

Hi!

 

I figured out with some new ideas for the neutral structures to make it more enjoyable.

With some upgrades, it can be made exciting the occupation for neutral structures.

 

Outpost

Generous Season: upgrades outpost level up -350-

Increase resource gain from outpost by 10%.

 

Hearty Food: upgrades outpost level up -450-

Heals and replenishes nearby units and heroes around the outpost.

 

Defense situation: upgrades outpost level up -650-

Summons a garrisonable tower. But this can only be done around the outpost.

 

Signal Fire

A Fire Shall Be Woken: upgrades signal fire level up -350-

Increases vision range

 

The Last Resort: upgrades signal fire level up -450-

Provides leadership +33 damage, +33 armor to nearby units around the signal fire.

 

The Calling Word: upgrades signal fire level up -650-

Summons a unit from from the faction that occupied the signal fire.

But this can only be done around the signal fire.

 

 

Inn

 

Gondor

Alliance 1: Lamedon Clansmen

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Dunedain Rangers

upgrades inn level up -150- , activate the unit

Alliance 3: Dol Amroth Archers

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Firienholt Sentinels

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Mounted Kingsguard

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Rohan

Alliance 1: Rohan Peasants

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Druedain Warrior

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Anorien Soldiers

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Sindar Warrior

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Grey Company

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Rivendell

Alliance 1: Hobbit Shirrifs

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Westfolders

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Ered Luin Traders

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Sindar Warrior

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Lindon Warrior

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Lothlorien

Alliance 1: Lorien Wardens

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Dunedain Rangers

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Anorien Soldiers

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Greenwood Warrior

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Mounted Kingsguard

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Greenwood

Alliance 1: Silvan Hunters

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Dorwinion Legionaries

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Sindar Pathstalker

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Rivendell Swordsmen

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Vaterans of the Last Alliance

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Erebor

Alliance 1: Erebor Guardians

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Dorwinion Legionaries

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Ered Luin Traders

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Iron Hills Ram Riders

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Barding Kingsguard

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Mordor

Alliance 1: Orc Warrior

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Mountain-Orc Slashers

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Corsair of Umbar

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Morgul-Orc Archers

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Khandish Camelriders

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Isengard

Alliance 1: Uruk Hai Marauders

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Mountain-Orc Slashers

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Dunland Houshold Guards

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Gundabad Berserkers

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Dunland Kingsguard (Saruman guard)

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Misty Mountain

Alliance 1: Moria Orc Screechers

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Orc Hunters

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Black Uruk Marauders

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Uruk Hai Pikemen

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Orc Ravengers

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Haradwaith

Alliance 1: Haradrim Warlord

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Eregion Warg Pack

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Variags of Khand

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Black Numenorian Assassins

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Khandish Camelriders

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

Dol Guldur

Alliance 1: Broken Rabble

Normal inn unit

Alliance 2: Eregion Warg Pack

upgrades inn level up -150-, activate the unit

Alliance 3: Black Uruk Maraduers

upgrades inn level up -250-, activate the unit

Alliance 4: Gundabad Berserkers

upgrades inn level up -500-, activate the unit

Alliance 5: Morgul Vanguard

upgrades inn level up -750-, 1 battalion, activate the unit

 

 

Edited by Three Elven Rings, 17 August 2019 - 09:19 PM.

[Three Elven Rings]

Neutral structures 2.0

 

Hello

I’ve posted some ideas about neutral structures in the past.

Now I looked them over again and thought about a few things.

AotR team what do you say? Would these innovations be feasible?

 

Signal Fire

Each hero can be summoned for 2-3 minutes and costs 2000.

 

Gondor – Theoden

Level 1: King of Rohan - Modifier Type: Leadership. Allies near Théoden gain +50% armour and earn experience twice as fast. Stacks with buffs and spells. Passive ability.

Level 1: Mount Snowmane/Dismount - left click to mount Snowmane/dismount.

Level 1: Strength Remembered - Heal nearby units. At level 5, will also summon two battalions of Kingsguard accompanied by Háma and Gamling. Left click to activate.

 

Rohan – Haldir

Level 1: Toggle Weapon - Left click to toggle between bow and sword.

Level 1: Marchwarden of Lothlórien - Haldir guides allied units from one location on the battlefield to anywhere on the map. Left click icon, then left click on target units, then left click on pathable location.

Level 1: Captain of the Galadhrim - Modifier Type: Leadership. Nearby Lórien Wardens, Lórien Archers and Marchwardens gain +33% damage and +33% armour. Stacks with Buffs and Spells. Passive ability.

 

Erebor Reign of Oakenshield– Dáin Ironfoot

Level 1: Lord of the Iron Hills - Modifier Type: Leadership. Iron Hills units near Dáin gain +33% damage, +33% armour and earn experience 50% faster. Stacks with buffs and spells. Passive ability.

Level 1: Mount/Dismount - Left click to switch between mounted or on foot.

Level 1: To the King!  - On foot: Summons three battalions of Spearmen of the Iron Hills to Dáin's side. Left click icon then left click on pathable location.

On boar: Summons three battalions of Goat Riders of the Iron Hills to Dain's side. Left click icon then left click on pathable location.

 

Erebor Reign of Ironfoot– Prince Bard II.

Level 1: Prince of Dale - Modifier Type: Leadership. Grants +20% to attack damage, armour, movement speed, and health regeneration for King Brand and Thorin Stonhelm.

Level 1: Mount/Dismount - Left click to switch between mounted or on foot. Prince Bard II. gains +33% armor, when he mounted.

Level 1: Fight for Honor! Prince Bard II. temporarily gains +100% Damage and nearby mannish infantry gain bonus damage against machines and monsters.

 

Lothlórien – Feren

Level 1: Shield Bash - Powerful attack that knocks back enemy units. At rank 5, radius and damage are increased. Left click icon then left click on target.

Level 1: Commander of Eryn Lasgalen - Summons a battalion of Taurdrim. At rank 3, includes an additional battalion of Greenwood Spearmen. At rank 6, two of both. At rank 10, includes an additional battalion of Tamastirnyr. Left click to activate.

Level 1: Banishment - Target enemy hero is pinned and takes +33% damage from all damage sources. Left click icon then left click on target.

 

Rivendell – Cirdan

Level 1: Nówë - Círdan provides counsel to targeted heroes, who permanently gain a chunk of experience and +10% armor

Level 1: Ancient Craftsman - Targeted structure is repaired.

Level 1: Messenger of Ulmo - Can be cast on a well to increase its heal rate and provide nearby units with fear immunity

 

Woodland Realm – Norimo

Level 1: Ancient Relation - Leadership nearby Kinn-lai Warriors, and gains +33% armour, damage. Nearby allied heroes gain +25% range vision, armor and speed.

Level 1: Fruits of Yavanna - Targeted hero fully refreshes special ability timers.

Level 1: Blade of Perseverance - Norimo for 60 seconds lose -25% damage, but gain 175% armour.

 

Mordor – Buródapán

Level 1: Lord of Waves - Leadership to nearby mannish units.

Level 1: Take What You Can - Converts enemy units to fight for your cause

Level 1: Give Nothing Back - Set fire to selected area, dealing heavy damage to enemy units and structures.

 

Isengard – Halfdan the Chieftain

Level 1: Allegiance of Sharkey – Minor leadership to nearby Wildmens. Halfdan gains +33% armour, damage when near Wulfgar and +33% speed when near Saruman.

Level 1: Burn Them All - Target enemy building takes damage and is temporarily disabled.

Level 1: Perpetual Revenge - Target allied units gain +33% damage and nearby enemy units to flee in terror.

 

Misty Mountains – Gauthoth the Werewolf

Level 1: Mowing Claws - Leadership nearby Wargs and Wolves gain +33% damage, armour, +25% speed and immunity to fear and terror. Grants +50% to attack damage and armour for Golfimbul.

Level 1: Full Moon - Gaurhoth temporarily gains +100% damage and +40% armour.

Level 1: Heritage of Draugluin - Gaurhoth turns an enemy hero into a werewolf if the hero's level is between 1-4, but if he/she's between 5-10 he/she's constantly damaged.

 

Dol Guldur – Khán

Level 1: Dark Lord Influence – Khán gains +33% armour, damage and resistance to knockback when near Necromancer. Minor leadership to nearby Easterlings.

Level 1: Rhúnish Strategy - Targeted hero gain experience.

Level 1: Saber of Anger – Khán briefly absorbs all damage towards him and enemies around him lose 25% damage and 25% armor.

 

Haradwaith – Mouth of Sauron

Level 1: Mount/Dismount - Left click to switch between mounted and on foot.

Level 1: Dark Sorcery - Modifier type: active debuff. Targeted enemy units suffer -20% damage and -20% armour, nullifies enemy leadership. Does not stack with other debuffs.

Modifier type: active buff. Targeted allied units gain +33% damage and +33% armour. Left click icon then left click on target units.

Level 1: Faithless and Accursed - Causes targeted units to become hostile towards each other. Left click icon then left click on target area.

 

Outpost

Of the 3 abilities, only 1 is selectable and each ability costs 1000.

 

Generous Season - Increase resource gain from outpost by 25%.

Fresh Meal - Heals and replenishes nearby units and heroes around the outpost.

Burning Barrel - Summons a fiery barrel that explodes and causes damage to the enemy.

 

 

Inn

Each faction starts in the inn with a normal unit. The other two units are available for purchase (Rank 2 cost: 500, Rank 3 cost: 100).

 

Gondor

Normal: Dúnedain Ranger

Rank 2: Westfolders

Rank 3: Rohirrim Archers

Rohan

Normal: Drúedain warrior

Rank 2: Anórien Soldiers

Rank 3: Marchwardens

Erebor Reign of Oakenshield

Normal: Dorwinion Legionnaries

Rank 2: Ered Luin Hunters

Rank 3: Iron Hills Riders

Erebor Reign of Ironfoot

Normal: Dorwinion Legionnaries

Rank 2: Wayfarer of Orocarni

Rank 3: Barding Outriders

Lothlórien

Normal: Silvan Wardens

Rank 2: Greenwood Warriors

Rank 3: Sindar Nobles

Rivendell

Normal: Ered Luin Traders

Rank 2: Lindon Spearmen

Rank 3: Knights of Amroth Amdírion

Woodland Realm

Normal: Warriors of the Kinn-Lai

Rank 2: Rivendell Guardsmen

Rank 3: Marchwardens

Mordor

Normal: Corsairs of Umbar

Rank 2: Harondor Raiders

Rank 3: Black Numenorean Warriors

Isengard

Normal: Moria Orc Screechers

Rank 2: Mountain-orc Slashers

Rank 3: Stone Troll

Misty Mountains

Normal: Fell Brood

Rank 2: Black Uruk Marauders

Rank 3: Orc Ravagers

Dol Guldur

Normal: Moria Orc Screechers

Rank 2: Easterling Phalanx

Rank 3: Easterling Kataphrakts

Haradwaith

Normal: Orc Warriors

Rank 2: Variags of Khand

Rank 3: Khandish Camelriders

 

Edited by Three Elven Rings, 16 December 2020 - 02:56 PM.

[Nerevar42]

Hey !

 

The idea of improving the capturable buildings experience by adding more features (meaning upgrades that can be purchased if the aforementioned buildings are under our command) is really interesting to me. This can be pretty refreshing while giving a true advantage of keeping these buildings instead of just destroying them.

 

But speaking specifically of what you're suggesting here, I think this is way too OP. First, an additionnal hero may be completely broken because the balance can easily be destroyed by giving a specific power to a faction that was not supposed to be able to summon this power. Plus the fact that heroes that come out of a building at a higher level and that cost way less than they should are also way too strong, that's why they removed the faction leader auto-level 5. Also, bad inn units are useless, nobody actually wants to spend resources and energy to keep an inn in order to recruit cheap Moria Orc Screechers or Orc Warriors, the idea is to immediately be able to recruit a powerful unit in a reasonably short time.

 

However, overall, I want to support the general idea of adding some special updates to capturable buildings, that's a good idea !

Edited by Nerevar42, 14 December 2020 - 08:16 PM.

[Thranduil_King]

I have always said that all these neutral structures should have a more important function or just more functions, especially as the signal fires (for example) that only help to have a vision, but it is a very limited vision, perhaps some dynamics could be added, for example, if you conquering all of their in the map you can temporarily summon a hero or unit, or have greater benefits in units, resources, etc. Without a doubt, more use should be made of these structures

[Three Elven Rings]

Thank you for your feedback Nerevar42 and Thranduil_King.

I am glad that others have similar ideas about expanding neutral structures.

 

Nerevar42, at your suggestion, I made some minor changes to my idea.

I think the units in the inn are not properly distributed. There are factions that have weaker units and need to recruit a lot of them to achieve anything with them (example: Moria Orc Screechers vs Greenwood Warriors). Most times, the AI acquires the neutral buildings first, so you need to protect not only your base, but also so that you can keep it and the AI will not occupy it.

[Esparado87]

I don't mind very small buffs for the neutral structures, but i see nothing about docks...

[Three Elven Rings]

The AOTR team already has ideas related to docks and naval battles.

Do not worry about it. )

[Esparado87]

The AOTR team already has ideas related to docks and naval battles.

Do not worry about it. )

Docks and naval battles? Tell me more of this, where did you see that info (page/link)?

[Three Elven Rings]

Hi Esparado87 !

 

The AotR Team has only brought up the improvements as a mention. I cannot provide accurate information.