103 replies to this topic

[Tom]

Its what will make them most profit, not for the safety of their country...

[MSpencer]

Depends what the mutated cell does

And when did you get your doctorate and get the right to say something as fact on a topic that is clearly being debated by medical professionals worldwide?

[Comrade Kal]

Same place you got yours. Assuming you have one, of course.

[radaral]

Does anyone find it just as ironic as I do that the US is taking less actions towards NK that certainly has nuclear weapons then towards Iran where there is only a suspicion..

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I think george bush is afraid of kim jong il, I wouldn't blame him hes creepy.



I mean look at him hes scary, I bet little kids would pee there pants if he went trick ot treating in someones town and without a costom too.

that and china would probably defend north korea like they always do.

[MSpencer]

Such biased and close-minded views are the basis of hatred, and misunderstanding.

[radaral]

Such biased and close-minded views are the basis of hatred, and misunderstanding.

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who are you saying this to?

[MSpencer]

Both of you.

[chemical ali]

Right DU was found in order to counter act what the Soviets had at their time with their nuclear technology and how they were putting it into tanks, like anything radioactive it is dangerous, those photos in that flash video are from what looks like Cheynoble from medical problems that happened there. The UK and the US have had a active weapon programe with Britains Portland Down and the US Nevara test sites, North Korea has an active nuclear aresenal when they begin testing it that is when the worry is, Iran could have nukes this year, thats why if I was an Israeli I would be worried.

[MSpencer]

Can you ever get anything right or are you just going to make stuff up again?
DU is quite simply the best penetrator you can find. DEPLETED uranium, as in no more electrons and protons being emitted to make it change into lead. The Soviets weren't putting nukes into their tanks, stop playing Generals. They did not put any radioactive material in their tanks (considering they lacked the NBC protection as well as the evil genius to do so, if they had put nuclear material in their tanks, all Soviet MBTs from the East German blitzkrieg line would be glowing with radioactivity, and millions would be dead and dying from exposure to radioactive material), and I have no idea where you got this backward notion from. Did NATO use DU penetrators? Yes, because it will punch through the front of basically 90% of all tanks in existance. Also, it's not just NATO. Russia uses DU rounds for their tanks, primarily with their 115mm and 125mm guns.
Know what you are talking about before you make statements that could be outclassed by a two year old. Stop making things up.

[chemical ali]

Spence if you said that in my country (or anywhere else in the world for that matter) you wouldnt even have to wait six seconds for someone to slap you and call be called a little facist. Everything you say is about how America does no damage and all the Iraqis love you and how your defeating terrorism. Where do you get your information from Fox News?

[Hostile]

Getting back on topic. IMO I would think that China should have the most influence on the situation. If they threatened NK with sanctions, they should be able to get NK to break under pressure.

NK could not sustain itself without Chinese resources. Wiser people might convince me that would force NK to invade SK for it's own survival though.

[chemical ali]

If China threatened sanctions then the North Koreans would just leave any attempt of resolving this peacfully, the chineese have to give North Korea grain and fuel as to just come along to the conferences.

[Mastermind]

Both enriched uranium and depleted uranium are radioactive. Both contain all 3 isotopes, and all 3 are unstable and therefore radioactive. Enriched uranium is about four times as radioactive as normal uranium, but there is no difference in radioactivity between natural and depleted uranium. So it's just as deadly. Having an area spread with depleted uranium bullets would almost certainly cause severe damage to an area over the years. The stuff poisons the ground air, plants and wildlife for years to come.

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From what I've read, Depleted Uranium is about 40% less radioactive than normal uranium. Otherwise, you have it exactly right.

[Mastermind]

You enhale natural uranium dust every day. It's a question of how much you are exposed to. Water will poison you, but that doesn't stop you from drinking it, does it?

[MSpencer]

But it's significantly less radioactive that unless you have direct contact with it, which is unlikely, you will not develop tumors from it. I still believe autoloaders should be used if using DU though.

[Tom]

Jesus, DU is radioactive. IT CAUSES CANCER AND MUTATIONS. Whether it is 40% less radioactive than normal uranium thats still 60% radioactivity. The point is it should not be used in any shells. It is classed as CHEMICAL WARFARE and as far as i know thats illegal in all forms.

Just because you guys are more worried about defending Americas reputation of being good rather than looking at the truth it doesn't mean that what is being said is untrue. This uranium will causes lot of damage in Iraq, it will just take more years before it becomes clearer what it is attually doing.

Getting back on topic. IMO I would think that China should have the most influence on the situation. If they threatened NK with sanctions, they should be able to get NK to break under pressure.

Else america could disarm like most of the other countries and stop being so hostile towards communism, THEN MAYBE we could convince NK to disarm as well. NK to me seems like a hidden and inactive cold war. Its just a way to defend themselves from what they see is a threat. America.

[MSpencer]

They can hit our coast with nuclear weapons. They can blow up Japan. They put American lives at danger in Japan, and threaten the security of the world. Kim Jom Il oppresses his people, and you defend him. You can really defend the man who develops nuclear weapons in this day and age, while starving his people? How can you live with yourself, really.

[Tom]

Not much different from what your doing then eh?

If you read what i said you will find the following: "THEN MAYBE we could convince NK to disarm as well"

THEN MAYBE is not certain. I just said something because its a possible possibility of why he is building Nukes. America has no reason to continue nuclear programs, however IT DOES. Problem are far deeper than what you think they are spence. Stop targeting stupid little mistakes you make mentally then throwing them at me. I DO NOT SUPPORT Kim Jom just like i don't support George W. Read what i said. If America was willing to disarm the MAYBE NK would be too. Wake up.