"We'll wring its neck!"
#1
Posted 12 March 2005 - 01:09 AM
2. Download window. Helps to keep tabs on those several downloads you're doing instead of opening up 6-7 windows.
3. All the functions of IE.
4. Google/Altavista/Yahoo/etc. toolbar. Even some sites create plugins for their search systems to place next to the URL box. Can be removed easily, unlike IE banners.
5. No popups.
6. Considerably less probability of contracting an ITD from the web.
7. Controls and hotkeys easier.
8. Statistically uses less memory, with many tabs open uses just as much memory as several IE windows, but keeps the screen clean and functionable. A main drawback in IE was the inability to navigate windows easily.
9. Little to no crashes, and quality feedback systems to report bugs.
10. M$ = evil. We must storm the B@5T1LL3 and kill the developers of IE.
#2
Posted 12 March 2005 - 02:05 AM
#3
Posted 12 March 2005 - 02:44 AM
Save the environment, use green text
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#4
Posted 12 March 2005 - 03:19 AM
I lose tabs1. Tabbed browsing. Alt-T and type in a URL. VERY convenient.
I download fast enough it doesn't matter2. Download window. Helps to keep tabs on those several downloads you're doing instead of opening up 6-7 windows.
Wow, it's a functional web browser3. All the functions of IE.
IE has a google toolbar. As a matter of fact, it has any and all of those toolbars.4. Google/Altavista/Yahoo/etc. toolbar. Even some sites create plugins for their search systems to place next to the URL box. Can be removed easily, unlike IE banners.
IE SP25. No popups.
I just scan now and then, and there's no problem. Also, see SP26. Considerably less probability of contracting an ITD from the web.
Hotkeys?7. Controls and hotkeys easier.
XP does fine with windows, and I have no problem navigating within them.8. Statistically uses less memory, with many tabs open uses just as much memory as several IE windows, but keeps the screen clean and functionable. A main drawback in IE was the inability to navigate windows easily.
Not surprising. IE doesn't crash very often when I'm using it as a web browser either9. Little to no crashes, and quality feedback systems to report bugs.
Pffft. They are not evil. If you think they are, trying using none of MS's products. That means, pretty much no games, no Office, no Windows, etc. I feel like I'm more productive in Windows than using any other OS. It's an amazing accomplishment, and quite frankly, all the MS bashing is getting old.10. M$ = evil. We must storm the B@5T1LL3 and kill the developers of IE.
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#5
Posted 12 March 2005 - 06:28 AM
5) You mean almost no unwanted popups.
Unfortunately some sites are getting sneakier to get around popup blockers.
You didn't mention the dozens of themes and extensions that are available. I've got 13 extensions installed and as a web programmer, I don't see how I could ever switch to a different browser.
What I'm saying is that Firefox is the best new internet app I've seen in a long time. Yes I know the Mozilla project has been around for a while, but the new features set Firefox apart from other web browsers.
Mastermind, do you really think MicroSoft needs defending?
Edited by Kravvitz, 12 March 2005 - 06:29 AM.
#6
Posted 12 March 2005 - 08:16 AM
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#7
Posted 12 March 2005 - 09:04 AM
1. Tabbed browsing. Alt-T and type in a URL. VERY convenient.
2. Download window. Helps to keep tabs on those several downloads you're doing instead of opening up 6-7 windows.
3. All the functions of IE.
4. Google/Altavista/Yahoo/etc. toolbar. Even some sites create plugins for their search systems to place next to the URL box. Can be removed easily, unlike IE banners.
5. No popups.
6. Considerably less probability of contracting an ITD from the web.
7. Controls and hotkeys easier.
8. Statistically uses less memory, with many tabs open uses just as much memory as several IE windows, but keeps the screen clean and functionable. A main drawback in IE was the inability to navigate windows easily.
9. Little to no crashes, and quality feedback systems to report bugs.
10. M$ = evil. We must storm the B@5T1LL3 and kill the developers of IE.
agrees *grabs G36 off gun rack and flys to Seatle*
and yeah the EA bashers su0ck
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#8
Posted 12 March 2005 - 07:21 PM
Firefox is a browser. It is NOTHING special. Extensions and tabbed browsing do NOT set it apart or make it special.
Being a web developer, I test Internet Explorer and that's all. If it doesn't work in Firefox, tough shit. Over 90% of people on the Internet use IE so why bother with pleasing the chosen few who use other browsers?
IE is a fully capable browser with relatively few problems despite what Spence and anyone else might say.
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#9
Posted 12 March 2005 - 10:55 PM
I tried FF. Didn't work. Went back to IE, where I've never experienced major problems.
WTF's convenient about that? Tabbed browsing? What the hell? I'd rather not end up typing in the address bar after an inadvertent key-press...1. Tabbed browsing. Alt-T and type in a URL. VERY convenient.
Nor do you have to with IE. OK, my IE download client is on the fritz (if it's a zip file it just auto-dls in the IE window without me seeing how it's progressing...and then pops up with the extracted zip file. Any ideas how to sort this?), but I can just use GetRight. No problem.2. Download window. Helps to keep tabs on those several downloads you're doing instead of opening up 6-7 windows.
Other than decoding netcode, what functions are these, exactly?3. All the functions of IE.
4. Google/Altavista/Yahoo/etc. toolbar. Even some sites create plugins for their search systems to place next to the URL box. Can be removed easily, unlike IE banners.
Who the fuck uses toolbars anyway? They just clog up the IE window, lag the system, face-fuck your system with spyware and generally are an unnecessary pain in the ass. If my mother installs Google toolbar, I shout at her (God help her if she installs Smiley Central...). 14 keystrokes will get you to the website that will do the job better than any toolbar.IE has a google toolbar. As a matter of fact, it has any and all of those toolbars.
Spybot + Ad-Aware + Alt+F4 will solve this problem. Also what happens if the popup in question is needed to view something? I don't even use SP2. It's buggy, and I've heard too many horror stories...5. No popups.
Somebody forget to install Norton 2002? (Don't get any later version as they're RAM intensive and run a good 8 processes in the background and so cause system lagginess. 2k2 does the same job with much less problem. I only installed 2003 to get the lifetime subscription to the definitions )6. Considerably less probability of contracting an ITD from the web.
What's hard about clicking something? o_0 Are you on a Mac?7. Controls and hotkeys easier.
8. Statistically uses less memory, with many tabs open uses just as much memory as several IE windows, but keeps the screen clean and functionable. A main drawback in IE was the inability to navigate windows easily.
There's a little underscore in the topright corner. Called minimize. Or the little X next to it. I have 3-4 IE windows open, max.
I kinda agree with Kravvitz' last comment tho, MM. Do you REALLY need to defend Microsoft? They aren't saintly.
And EA? They're only as big as they are because they buy everyone else out. They didn't get there off their own merit. I still remember when EA made megadrive games. Anybody play the James Pond series? At least Microsoft does the decent thing and simply out-profits them off the market...
#10
Posted 13 March 2005 - 12:09 AM
Seems likely.ITD most likely means Internet Transmitted Disease, aka a virus or worm.
Speak for yourself.Firefox is a browser. It is NOTHING special. Extensions and tabbed browsing do NOT set it apart or make it special.
Browser usage statistics aren't entirely accurate.Being a web developer, I test Internet Explorer and that's all. If it doesn't work in Firefox, tough shit. Over 90% of people on the Internet use IE so why bother with pleasing the chosen few who use other browsers?
I have had clients who care about supporting more browsers than just IE.
I do not support the status quo.
#11
Posted 13 March 2005 - 02:10 AM
I only defend them against the pointless bashers that say M$ SUCKS!!!111!!!111, and variants thereof.I kinda agree with Kravvitz' last comment tho, MM. Do you REALLY need to defend Microsoft? They aren't saintly.
And EA? They're only as big as they are because they buy everyone else out. They didn't get there off their own merit. I still remember when EA made megadrive games. Anybody play the James Pond series? At least Microsoft does the decent thing and simply out-profits them off the market...
Too cute! | Server Status: If you can read this, it's up |Well, when it comes to writing an expository essay about counter-insurgent tactics, I'm of the old school. First you tell them how you're going to kill them. Then you kill them. Then you tell them how you just killed them.
#12
Posted 13 March 2005 - 03:08 AM
I use Firefox personally, I find it much better and more convenient. It's faster in my opinion, and easier to use.
#13
Posted 13 March 2005 - 04:50 AM
http://xrml.game-mod...ndexproper.html
Fully XHTML 1.1 complaint page, loads fine in Firefox, Links, Lynz, Mozilla, Netscape, Opera and IE decides to kill it because it doesn't read a script tag correctly!
Edited by Saberhawk, 13 March 2005 - 04:51 AM.
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#14
Posted 16 March 2005 - 05:03 AM
#15
Posted 23 March 2005 - 12:40 PM
The best extention, I'm using, is fireftp, a very good replacement for smartftp, cutftp ...
#16
Posted 23 March 2005 - 06:00 PM
Although if not i'd probably have stuck to IE purely for simplicity.
And by the way, ITD isn't an acronym. It's an initialism.
Edited by Lord Kal, 23 March 2005 - 06:12 PM.
"To be governed is tragic, to govern is pathetic."
#17
Posted 23 March 2005 - 10:27 PM
It's an initialism and an acronym. It's like the square and rectangle thing -- a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't necessarily a square.
#18
Posted 23 March 2005 - 10:47 PM
"To be governed is tragic, to govern is pathetic."
#19
Posted 23 March 2005 - 11:21 PM
Which dictionary are you using?
http://www.webster.c...y&va=initialism
http://www.webster.c...nary&va=acronym
http://dictionary.re...earch?q=acronym
http://dictionary.re...ch?q=initialism
#20
Posted 23 March 2005 - 11:34 PM
Will Self will also testify.
"To be governed is tragic, to govern is pathetic."
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