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[thudo]

After just over one month since our v1.0 we now present:

The Dawn Of Skirmish v1.1 AI Mod Download

Thanks to the global DoW Community for waiting so patiently for this release and hope you get yer arse so handed to you like I enjoy a few times having our team making it happen!

We'll be here for any comments/questions/cries of mercy..

Its v1.1 so expect many updates/fixes/enhancements in the forthcoming weeks/months! Faction Modders can take special note of the script changes.txt file to see what AI-related scripts were altered to get to where we are today.

Thanks and get kick'n on da field 'o' war!

Once more, a MAJOR THANK YOU to CORSIX for the awesome custom installer+previous version detection system+deinstaller!!!

TuD!

Edited by thudo, 24 April 2005 - 07:37 PM.

[thudo]

Thanks Oozish.. glad we have someone who can examine things at the raw gameplay side of things. Keep the reports coming.

[thudo]

You can post the replay here as well for the AI team members to see. I think the board has enough room for it. Also try here to host it:

http://www.flypicture.com
(Site seems down at present.. but should go up soon)

Then post the download link here..

[thudo]

How can I post a replay here?

  Anyway, just played chaos on meeting of minds, HARDER, and I think i see a big problem is they let me have their strategic points if I take them.  It would be nice if they'd vigorously defend those just outside base points.  Because I actually built up a tier 2 turret right outside their base (next to the relic) and put one on the relic too since I had so much resource.  I'd like to post that replay up if possible.  I'll look into hosting it and would like to see what you guys think is going on.

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I don't know that map so the replay is important. Note the feature below when creating your message to make attachments. However, ensure the attachment is compressed (zipped) to minimize its size. I want to try that map myself with some special attack_rating and stop_attack values. I think the AI has not reached an appropriate attack_rating value to make the risky "take-back" attempt if your rushing quickly. Still.. something that should be easy to tweak now that the personalities are all in one now. Wheww!

[thudo]

Esssh... flypicture.com is uncharacteristically-slllloooowwwwww.. ah well.. we have good and bad days...

[LarkinVB]

Yes, I watched them. Chaos performed ok apart from being too passive both defending its posts and capturing more. I liked a lot of its actions in combat but for you it might be trivial.

Eldar is clearly weak in 1vs1. AI can not manage spiders and prefers banshees to reapers against marines. Its not our fault, its the default AI doing the choice and hard to correct.

I think the AI is better in bigger battles on bigger maps. For some reason it seems easy to close its base entries as you did against chaos.

[LarkinVB]

I'm not satisfied but I don't expect wonders. AI can't counter infiltration, whirlwinds, flank moves and is full of limits. A rewrite can improve it. will you pay me ? Guess it takes some month work 10h a day.

[thudo]

We're doing things slowly but surely. We have the advantage of time before and after the expansion. Before being much groundwork can be accomplished and new innovative scripts can be coded which Relic never conceived. After being we will get to see what Relic has done to improve the Skirmish AI based on our feedback.

Tacit and company have been notified of our "requests" in a secure email so we've all done our part to ensure our voices are heard for the future. Expansion is now 4+ months away so thats plenty of time to ensure WA expands on the basis DoW started.

I am *supremely confident* about our team's ability to push forward and really blow Relic away with some impressive scripts (if we haven't done so already largely thanks to power scripters like Larkin and Corsix).

[LarkinVB]

I will retire from this nice project. Fed up with DoW coding. Spend hours debugging until I realized that some basic AI code is broken. Countless test battles have taken the fun out of the game for me. Relics support is piss poor too. Combined with endless discussions about where to go with the mod ... it's enough.

Will skip DoW until the expansion. Good luck for your project.
AI is better than before and it was fun- until now.

[thudo]

Wait wait... What?

Larkin.. all okay? I know you worked super hard to get out v1.1 and then fix it up real good post-release. I had a concern you might burn-yourself out and, ugh, my thoughts seem to have been proven.

I'll chat with you privately..