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[Boomerang Python]

prolly limit the landraider too.. maybe to 3-5?

[Calamity_Jones]

noo noo noo.. .no limits on tanks.... this is more or less epic

if we limit tanks we should make it like 10 of them... but if we make the limit that high... there's no point in adding a limit... so why bother with limits?

[Juggernaut]

Limiting to put some focus on the fact that some tanks are pretty rare to get, even in the 40K universe..

would you like it when someone sneaks up your base with a force of 12 landraiders?
I think it would just add to the overall gameplay that several units are rare and thus cannot be built, the limit of just 1 Tankfactory would also add to this point.

I was even thinking of some system as they had in Dune and Dune 2, in which tanks could only be ordered and then after a long time they would be delivered by an aircraft on a landingpad
A tank was then built and delivered in say 5-8 mins depending on the price and strength/value of the unit, very powerful units would even take 10 mins to be built and delivered...
It gave the game a feeling of waging war and that resources/units were really hard to come by and it was great!

[Wagamos]

Obviously you arent as impatient as me.

[Torn]

Lol I was thinking that too. All unit builds seem to take forever because I'm insanly impatient.

[Calamity_Jones]

that would really really kill the game... tanks aren't totally unavailable...

as torn and wag have proved.. it'd just piss you off having to wait that long for a tank

[Boomerang Python]

I'd like a Limit on the LR atleast as nobody builds the Predators when they can build unlimited amounts of Land Raider uber duuber tanks who pwns all, like torn did in one of our games.. i was overrun by land raiders.. and my russes didnt stand a chance againts 20 of em..

[Juggernaut]

I'm also very impatient but the Dune system really added to the game so i liked it

i'm really one of the most impatient persons around sometimes

[=][= Inquisitor_Sevrius =][=]

I agree with Boomer there. 3-5 does sound reasonable for a build limit for LR's and "super uber duuber tanks". That's gotta be better than 20 charging around the map slaughtering Russes at will.

As for limiting to one war factory however, I think that's a viable option as well. However, such does restrict the possibilty of constructing satellite bases for safety against base attack , raising the probability (and humility) of losing your one and only war factory to a few stray missiles and having none to fall back upon.

Just an idea

Edited by =][= Inquisitor_Sevrius =][=, 03 May 2005 - 02:31 AM.

[Pyro_Monkey]

there is a simpler solution.
all u need to do is make the warfactory have 2 levels. Level 1 will be the price it is now, and can construct the basic vehicles namely transports, crisis suits, that kind of thing.
Upgrading to level 2 will be evry pricy and have a long build time and that will allow construction of the uber vehicles. because it will be expensive and take awhile to buy a lvl 2 fctory u would probably only have 1 so there will be long build times for the uber tanks, and it will ensure they arn't around until later on in the game, however the player will still be able to afford as many lvl 1 factories as they want ensuring they have another factory to fall back on, allowing them to have more than 1 base, having them able to build transports at a faster rate, and most importantly, if the build times are long for uber vehciles and u only have 1 factory, the factory will be tied up for so long that no one would ever be able to build transports or other smaller vehicles. This will prevent that from happening.

Edited by Pyro_Monkey, 03 May 2005 - 03:07 AM.

[Boomerang Python]

wow, great idea pyro.

A little like Blitz2 has got, however maybe just have an generals skill upgrade that allows construction of Elite tank units?

[hobbes-99]

Boomer, reread Pyros idea, I think it wouldn't work if it was a generals thiingy cos that'd then allow it to all the different factories

Pyros idea is perfect because it allows the tactical side of more than one factory, so you can build satalite bases, but also limits it because you woouldn't 'upgrade' more than one factory unless you had bags and bags of money. In which case the game would've already turned into a bit of a Tank war.

I think Pyros idea is perfect.

The only real problem is with the other factions. If you have to upgrade to get a unit it shoulf probably be the basilisk because the guard kinda do need access to the Russ, after all its really not that uber and its the only thing they have thats hard...

[Juggernaut]

darn Pyro hit the nail on the head there.. great idea!

why did'nt i figure that out in the first place???

yeah it's good

[Boomerang Python]

Hmm we shall discuss this matter in a more private place.. *Walks of to the local Team section*

[sam]

hobbes, just an initial thought, but vanquisher springs to mind

[Panzergraf]

I hope you don't intend to put a limit on the Vanquishers

Super Heavies like the Baneblade should be limited.

[Juggernaut]

EVERYTHING will be limited!!!! no more then 3 marines, 1 landraider and only half a Vanquisher!!!

[Boomerang Python]

yeh and the tau wont even have any units!

[Calamity_Jones]

just one guy who is about 80, has one leg and a pair of crutches... heck... he can't even hold a gun, and as soon as he dies, it's game over TA stylee (he explodes like a huge nuclear bomb and kills everything nearby:P)