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[Wagamos]

Yes, super vehicles will be included.

[Slye_Fox]

For example, the SM Leviathan and the IG Supertanks would be uber strong, but still vulnerable if you attack them with A LOT of rocketmen or other anti-armor stuff...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

not entily true, the Baneblade (and most of it's vaiants) are designed with anti-infantry defences

Baneblae has:
3 Twin-link heavy Bolters
2 Lascannon turrets
and a coaxel auto-cannon to defend it

[Calamity_Jones]

ohh.... don't worry sly.. the baneblade will have its full weapon loadout

and we are making it as fluff friendly as possible... so the baneblade WILL have its heavy bolters and what-not

however... in order to make it a sensible unit... i.e. not utterly arse rape everything on the battlefield I think it'd be a good idea to have a toggle between defensive weapons and main cannon... where you can either use the big fat cannon or switch on some extra defensive weapons...

like, for exapmple, the 3 HB's are only usable if you swap over to defensive guns, and the autocannon and big fat gun are disabled... so you still have the 2 lascannons in either mode...

whatcha think?

that way you can't rampage thrrough everything

[Slye_Fox]

seems sensible

when you do implament them
will yo make a max super heavy tank limet of 3 per faction?

[Slye_Fox]

i beleave a warhound would be better than a leviathan

[Pyro_Monkey]

well a leviathan is modelled and skinned and requires no animation, a war hound is not started, way to big for this mod, and requires alot of animations, so i seriously doubt that would happen

[Calamity_Jones]

PLUS space marines dont use warhounds.. .thats the adeptus titanicus or legio titanicus or whatever the heck they are called...

you just dont see warhounds with big fat omegas on their shoulders

edit... I'm not sure if it's possible to crush buildings... but it'd be cool

Edited by Calamity_Jones, 04 May 2005 - 09:34 PM.

[Juggernaut]

and we are making it as fluff friendly as possible...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

indeed, 'cause i'm starting to feel myself a bit of Fluff-Inquisition..
I'm around to keep it all fluffwise here

On crushable buildings: I think they can be done if the unit who crushes them would deal instantly the full 100% of damage to a building, leveling it instantly. I just hope it is possible, but that should only be applied to units capable of leveling a building.

not just any tank, even the heaviest like landraiders. But real titan units as the leviathan and baneblade?? (dunno? ) gargants, titan mechs.. ah well, the Forgeworld superheavy stuff

reminds me of my Mechwarrior days, crushing innocent ppl who ran away with a 90 ton Mech

[=][= Inquisitor_Sevrius =][=]

Just on crush levels, you can make any vehicle crush buildings if you wanted them to. They have a:
crushlevel INFANTRY (TANKS) (STRUCTURES) or something like that, which demolishes the building if you move the unit on top of it. But, you should leave that for the real huge crap with a 1 build limit since thats just outrageous.

[Slye_Fox]

why not set it to 4 (large vehicle)
and put structurs at 3

[Calamity_Jones]

for what something is,
1 = infantry, 2 = vehicles, 3 = structures....

crush level,
0 = nothing, 1 = troops & trees, 2 = vehicles...

I dont think you can change these as its built into the game engine as far as I know, it's the same reason you can't make new damage types and module tags.

I'll try setting it to 3 though

however... juggs idea of making it deal out 100% damage to something realy close would be ideal... that's how I would make it crush buildings anyways

Edited by Calamity_Jones, 05 May 2005 - 08:48 AM.

[Juggernaut]

PERHAPS yes, don't cheer too early however Bumblebee

we're far from having leviathans and titans ingame and it's not even sure if it's all possible in the code.

[sam]

In my opinion leviathans are just too big for this mod, and way too powerful, they've got something like 14 twin linked heavy bolters or something rediculous, and las cannons, battle cannons, various defence bolters, and not to mention its uber cannon that levels most cities in a few shots.

I think that thats just a bit over kill, a Thunder Hawk would be more like it imo, and could be one of the balancing features, to make up for their utterly arse raping elite troops and tanks they just have to settle for less air power than the other factions....makes sense to me

[hobbes-99]

yeah, I think that the Leviathan is too big a unit too, it would do better as some sort of civilian structure in a campaign rather than a playable unit... However, its kinda so far off that its really no biggy to decide right now.

[Calamity_Jones]

yeah super vehicles are in the far distant future of the 41st millenium...

so you won't be seeing them for some time..

[=][= Inquisitor_Sevrius =][=]

Too big yes. Who here has ever seen something as big as a Leviathan or Titan in a game made by Westwood? Don't be rediculous, you know how much work would have to go into it?
The time spent to put it into the game would be a waste since something THAT powerful would utterly ruin it, obliterating everything before it while taking like no damage itself....