33 replies to this topic

[Tom]

Come on hooligan. You know better than this. They are still human, many teenage mothers can cope and many grow up when they have kids. You can't stereotype them all, thats just small mindedness.

[Kazyumi]

Your right. We're talkin about it now so... I'll tell my final look at it once were out..

[AdmiralGT]

Blaat brings up an interesting point about how "it takes two to tango" and yes, partialy responsbility for the birth of these children. You'll also be pleased to know two of the fathers no longer keep in contact with the mothers, and apparently one of the children has previously had an abortion and 2 miscarriages. I can't verify the last statement but if true, I find it extremely worrying that the mother still manages to think fault is left with the school rather than her own parenting failures.

I think Hooligan's approach is a little overenthusiastic but to a degree he has a point. It's a vicious cylce. I have little doubt in saying that these girls are likely to not be the smartest among us probably due to their parents. Their children will probably grow up to not be that intelligent either and will probably fall pregnant while very young as well. And all this time, in the three generations that exist in this family, probably only two will exist in a "better off" family. Society will continue to degrade unless problems like these get solved.

And in my opinion throwing benefits at them isn't helping. It's just failing them and the rest of society, giving them an easy approach out. While it might see it as a radical approach, I personally believe something needs to be done. In my opinion, if you can't afford to keep a child then you shouldn't have it. I'm not saying have an abortion, i'm just saying that the children should be fostered or prehaps adopted into stable families so that these young mothers are able to keep in contact with their children while offering them the best possible support and a good living environment.

The practicalities of such an idea is probably quite low, but I can't see an alternative to this degredation of parenting. If this continues to occur I dread to think of the state society will soon become.

[Kazyumi]

I have a cousin aged 19 who has a nearly-3-year old daughter. So I am affected by it and I don't like your attitude towards something you didn't even think about. Brains are there for a reason, use them before you say something ignorant.

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I got a cousin too who's a teen mum, 15 when she got it. She ruined her own future and now she's exploiting her mother into worries and money debts. I know more of it then you know Immo. So please..

Surely not all of the teen mums fail at giving a good childhood for their children. But a lot of them do. And thats a waste, a pity. A mistake that shouldn't have ever happened.
and I cant believe it how they give the school the blame. Ok, so the school sucked, go to your parents then or something?

About the 2 needed. Thats true. But if the guy leaves you alone with the child and you cant even raise it yourself... peeps sake dont take the bloody baby... in the end she can still decide if she goes for an abortion or such...

but then i wonder... where were the parents of these 3..... kiddies..?

My cure for this would be promotion of oral and anal intercourse

Edited by Hooligan, 24 May 2005 - 09:37 PM.

[FK47]

I have a cousin aged 19 who has a nearly-3-year old daughter. So I am affected by it and I don't like your attitude towards something you didn't even think about. Brains are there for a reason, use them before you say something ignorant.

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I got a cousin too who's a teen mum, 15 when she got it. She ruined her own future and now she's exploiting her mother into worries and money debts. I know more of it then you know Immo. So please..

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My cure for this would be promotion of oral and anal intercourse

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The first comment is unjustified. Saying you know more about a scenario than someone else doesn't really give you the right to say what you please on the subject.

The latter comment is not a good idea at all, anal sex is more likely to lead to AIDS than other forms of sexual intercourse.

[Komataguri]

Say what you will.

but those girlsare HOT


if it were not illegal, and I didn't know their ages, I'd probably do'm all myself

[chemical ali]

Koma you sick piedo, 2 of them are underage 1 is on the boarderline

And Tom is true lets sterotype time! Chavette=teen mothers it makes sense just lable them all cos you know its true lol A few years ago the mothers would have their babies taken away and they would be put up for adoption, that is a good opition I think. And Holigan thats just fucked up, and sex education is not bad in Britain I just think our taboo against sex is encouraging the increase in teen mothers, Im from the North West highest teenage pregnacy in Britain! Its all those chavey plebs that go out on friday night in nothing and 'get laid' as Tom put it.

[Kazyumi]

I have a cousin aged 19 who has a nearly-3-year old daughter. So I am affected by it and I don't like your attitude towards something you didn't even think about. Brains are there for a reason, use them before you say something ignorant.

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I got a cousin too who's a teen mum, 15 when she got it. She ruined her own future and now she's exploiting her mother into worries and money debts. I know more of it then you know Immo. So please..

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The first comment is unjustified. Saying you know more about a scenario than someone else doesn't really give you the right to say what you please on the subject.

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Did I say that? NO. I said that I knew more of it then he thinks I do. THATS what I said. Dont put words in my mouth.

edit: small typo

Edited by Hooligan, 25 May 2005 - 02:09 PM.

[Ash]

Calm.
There's a flicker here. let's not develop it into a FLAME.


I do think it's wrong that these kids have been made pregnant so young. Sex education definitely needs to take a leaf out of Holland's book (lowest teen preg. rate in Europe).

However I don't think that a child of 12 should necessarily be forced to go out and get a job at her age. Then again, no mother should be removed from her child to go to work for at least the first few years of life.
If she is being irresponsible as a parent, take the kid away and make sure she can't get educated either. She was stupid enough to get pregnant, and so lose her education, well, she'll have to go thru resits. IF she is a responsible parent, then I say give them learn from home.
They were dumb to get pregnant, but I think a child is enough of a punishment. if they prove themselves responsible parents then good luck to them...but at 12, I doubt it.

[Soulreaver]

It's the overall lack of responsibility in young people today that has caused this. The parents are partially to blame and of course the government that didn't succeed in educating these people properly. It's a bit too late to complain now, you don't want to pay these irresponsible kids, but the same people that are complaining should take actions to prevent things like this from happening again (not the money giving, the teenage parentship).

and as Ali G once said: How come there is an increase of teenage pregnanices, if all the british girls are so frigid. no offence to all the brits

[Athena]

Did the thought of rape ever crossed your mind? If one doesn't believe abortion is right and doesn't use any contraceptives (which are unlikely to be used when one is raped, of when one believes strongly in the Bible or so), the baby gets born.

[Soulreaver]

I was talking about these 3 particular girls, if rape was the case then government support for the mother and the child is justified.

[Hostile]

Its wrong to let these kids suffer because of the dirty sluts we have in this country, however i believe it can be resolved by still giving them benefits, but just enough. If they choose to spend it on booze, smoking and drugs like many of them do thats their problem. IMO if thats the result the child should be taken away. Social services should visit the family every 2 weeks to check how its going and keep pushing forward the idea of getting a job. Maybe sticking the father on a apprenticeship paid by the government. If they fail to not get a job after that then thats when you cut the support.

Its like homeless people. The government should give them somewhere to live, give them a course such as an apprenticeship and if they refuse to take the job after its done cut their support. At least we can say we tried. I believe that would be a fairer system and hard working families who get taxed for this won't get so angry as they know they tried.

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This golden opinion makes the most sense I've seen in awhile.