33 replies to this topic

[AdmiralGT]

Sisters 12,14 and 16 give birth

Things like this disgust me, almost to the point of feeling physically sick.

Firstly, the mother is trying to blame it all on the schools saying "sex education for young girls should be better". I'm sorry but in my opinion, this is all the mother's fault. OK, sex education might not be great but you can't say it is someone else's responsibility to teach them about sex. As a parent it is your responsibility to teach your children about morals, about being a good person, and things like sex education, how to handly money, not academic things. If you can't teach your kids how to control themselves sexually or how to have sex in a safe environment then you have no-one else but yourself to blame.

Secondly, these three kids get £600 a week. That's £31600 a year. Now I'm not sure if that's between the three of them or each. But no doubt they'll get a council flat each from the government and free childcare and all the other stuff. I'm sorry, my friend's mum earns less than a third of that a year. She earns less than one of these girls a year. She has a son at university to support, she has her own house to pay for and is divorced, looks after her mum as well and yet she doesn't get benefits from the government. She works hard to provide for her family and yet these three girls get "knocked up" and are given cash from the government.

I can support people who geniuly are poor needing money, those who can't work for any reason or those who really are looking for a job and can't get one. Cases like these I dispise. A girl I went to primary school with has a baby, she has a council flat provided for her by the government (and a rather nice one at that) and is given a handful of benefits by the government. I work hard for my money and earn less than she does. My brother had a girl who he went to primary school with who got pregnant. She lives in a larger house than my family (given to her by the government) and gets an absurd number of benefits while my brother trundles on working hard for his money. This is just crap, and it needs to stop.

Thoughts and opinions anyone?

Edited by AdmiralGT, 23 May 2005 - 10:19 PM.

[Mastermind]

It's good to see that people are unable to take responsibility for their failings in places outside the US. The mother needs some serious education on what her role as a parent is.

[skoolkid]

That's £31600 a year.

No way, that's like $60,000 here in the States. That's upper middle income right there, for doing nothing but taking care of your kid? That's messed up. It can't be £31600 each, that's way too outrageous. It's probably split up among them.

[FK47]

Doing it for the welfare cheques they'll no doubtedly receive.

[Shinigami]

Of course, because our taxes need to help pay to help bitches who can't keep their goddamn legs closed.

[Blodo]

Shinigami does have a point. I think this help for mothers should only be continued if the mother is at a certain age. I mean come on having a baby while 12 and getting cash for it...

Its also the mothers fault too me more than the schools, since parents are authorities in lifes of young people. What they say goes. If the mother didnt bother to say anything then she has the results right there.

[Tom]

Sexual Education in this country is pathetic. The kids are surrounded by sexual influence and the education is just ridiculous. They say: when having sex, wear a condom or your get HIV, that is about all they teach. I remember seeing a story about a women teacher, teaching a class of 30 fourteen year olds sex education and she said she couldn't handle it when they were asking her questions. I mean come on, we need teachers who are not going to get embarrassed at saying words like "penis" or "vagina." Its ridiculous.

As for the story it is disguisting and the amount they get paid is ridiculous, yet we cannot let the innocent ones (the babies and kids) suffer because their parents are lazy selfish bums.

The solution is get harder on the age of consent, get harder on sex education and get tougher on the benefits in these situations. £31k is ridicuolous. I'd give them about 5k and force the father or mother to get a job.

And MMs right, maybe parenting classes for these people would be better. Spendign about 1k on parenting classes per person is better than giving them 31k a year for getting pregnant at a ridiculous age.

[Apollo]

so true, by all means government should not aid these little bitches one bit at all!

since after all having kids does mean responsibility for taking care of them and imho in this age they are not even ready for that and most likely leads to these awful child abandoned/rejected cases as it is found out that having children isn't quite like with those toys before that you can put away when you don't feel like attending to them anymore.

Since they made this happen they should carry it as their burden without any money support from government as current goverment way just ends up supporting these wrong ways of doing things, its just the case that when you can abuse things you definately will do it.

Edited by Apollo, 24 May 2005 - 02:38 PM.

[Tom]

Its wrong to let these kids suffer because of the dirty sluts we have in this country, however i believe it can be resolved by still giving them benefits, but just enough. If they choose to spend it on booze, smoking and drugs like many of them do thats their problem. IMO if thats the result the child should be taken away. Social services should visit the family every 2 weeks to check how its going and keep pushing forward the idea of getting a job. Maybe sticking the father on a apprenticeship paid by the government. If they fail to not get a job after that then thats when you cut the support.

Its like homeless people. The government should give them somewhere to live, give them a course such as an apprenticeship and if they refuse to take the job after its done cut their support. At least we can say we tried. I believe that would be a fairer system and hard working families who get taxed for this won't get so angry as they know they tried.

[FK47]

Benifits should be given to rape victims who choose to give birth, not to people like that who get knocked up.

On that note, have you looked at them? Who the hell would knock them up anyway?

[Shelob Riding Ringwraith]

my thought on this is simple.

I don't even get good education on the subject being homeschooled, and no one should be forced to be a parent at such a small age. it's criminal. Every girl should have her child hood, not spend it raising a child! Come on! That's just insane. who cares if they get paid, it's the fact they shouldn't even be getting laid until their married.

[Kazyumi]

thats just SO wrong. Damn I would kill the whores. Fucking irresponsible stupid fucking whores. PFfff this aggrevates me. I hate teenage moms. Cant stand it.

[Tom]

my thought on this is simple.

I don't even get good education on the subject being homeschooled, and no one should be forced to be a parent at such a small age. it's criminal. Every girl should have her child hood, not spend it raising a child! Come on! That's just insane. who cares if they get paid, it's the fact they shouldn't even be getting laid until their married.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Then again its their choice. So the only option is not waste so much of tax payer money on people like that. If they want sex, use a condom, its really that simple. But having a kid at 16 imo is ridiculous. Especially since most of these girls (not all but most) are violent little bitches (or chavs as they are sterotyped). So if they get pregnant and chose to keep the child then they should be forced to take parenting classes, and so should the father. Financial support should be given but 31grand a year is ridiculous, 5grand seems more reasonable. Stick one of them on a apprenticeship so they are making money whilst working. Then when they are able to support themselves, cut the benefits. That in my opinion is to stop people having kids just to live off state benefits.

[Comrade Kal]

It's good to see that people are unable to take responsibility for their failings in places outside the US.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yeah, brilliant, isn't it?

[Kazyumi]

Heh, their everywhere man. Everywhere.
Bloody bloody stupid.... nvm.

[chemical ali]

Their dirty little slags, as soon as I heard it I knew its going to be on a council estate and that its a single mother, the mother is only 30 something and shes a gran! Sex education in our country is ok, its the girls fault, they proberly dont even knows who it is because they are so slaggish. Why didnt they have abortitions because they are poor, lower class and stupid they dont know, they think having a baby is good and the benfits is outrageous fucking welfare system needs major reform in our country. And they are chavs adding to the spawning, they should all be steralised so they cant drain this country anymore, thanks a fucking bunch Labour just tax the middle classes more and more.

[Athena]

It's stupid of them yeah, but the boys are just as much guilty. It takes two to make a baby . Personally I don't like the idea of teenage mums either. You should enjoy your childhood. Someone who's 16 or even younger, is still a bit of a child herself, at least not an adult yet. One should wait for that maturity, raising a child is a huge responsibility, it's not something that is easily learned, even when you are mature. If you mess up, the child might have problems for the rest of its life.
And yes, if indeed they must have sexual intercourse at the age of 12 (which is a bit young I think), then let them use condoms or pills or so.
But the guys are just as much 'slags' or whatever that is, as the girls. It takes two. I'm not defending the girls here, but it's just as much the guys fault. It's something you do together, so the dicisions about condoms and so must be made together.
But yeah, stupid people (male and female) are everywhere.

Edited by Blaat85, 24 May 2005 - 06:28 PM.

[FK47]

thats just SO wrong. Damn I would kill the whores. Fucking irresponsible stupid fucking whores. PFfff this aggrevates me. I hate teenage moms. Cant stand it.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Be careful about going round saying bold statements like that. You include an awful lot of people by saying such things.

[Tom]

Sex education in our country is ok,

Why because it turns you on? The only time you see a women is in those vids? lol

its the girls fault, they proberly dont even knows who it is because they are so slaggish.

Uh ali its as much fault the male as the females. You yourself said you got "laid" so you should know. Somehome i sometimes think this is just an attempt at getting attention ali...

Why didnt they have abortitions

Because abortitions don't exist. Abortions do though. And its jsut wrong to kill a potential baby because you got pregnant young. I wonder ali, why didn't your mother abort you?

because they are poor, lower class and stupid they dont know,

Oh theres the answer to my previous question. ROFL. Ali your are good and fast at answering these. Seriously now, how the hell is their financial background related to their sexual education. Seriously, i thought you went to a private school and you seem to have no logic in any of your arguments except ignorance and fascist-style bashing skills.

they think having a baby is good and the benfits is outrageous fucking welfare system needs major reform in our country.

Agreed to an extent but not the type of reform your thinking.

And they are chavs adding to the spawning, they should all be steralised so they cant drain this country anymore,

Yep here comes the fascism, aren't i a far seer. If you continue this way ali you'll be joining the BNP, what good will that do ya?

thanks a fucking bunch Labour just tax the middle classes more and more.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And we can have more psycho rants from ali. Heck if i ever go into politics i'm going to push forward an ali tax reform. 100% of alis money goes to chavs. ROFL

You should enjoy your childhood. Someone who's 16 or even younger, is still a bit of a child herself, at least not an adult yet. One should wait for that maturity, raising a child is a huge responsibility, it's not something that is easily learned, even when you are mature. If you mess up, the child might have problems for the rest of its life.

Thats the major concern really. Problem is these "types" of people sometimes never grow up. I see 25 or 30 year olds still acting like 14 year olds and its sad really. The effect it has on their children just makes them even worse than the previous generation. IMO authority needs to be restored to the streets and maybe bring back such things as national service for 18 year olds in which they serve only a year. If not just do it for troublesome kids, it might help them, who knows. Maybe just a smack with a batton next time they throw a brick at some firemen will help.

And yes, if indeed they must have sexual intercourse at the age of 12 (which is a bit young I think), then let them use condoms or pills or so.

You can't tell kids when they are ready for sexual intercourse. If they think they are ready they will do it, however you can teach them safe procedures to take. Labour has really boosted the safe sex campaign over the last few years but it still isn't enough. There needs to be more sex education and more education on bringing up a child rather than just, yeah you stick this in here and do this and voila, your up the duff - the great english term. lol

[Kazyumi]

thats just SO wrong. Damn I would kill the whores. Fucking irresponsible stupid fucking whores. PFfff this aggrevates me. I hate teenage moms. Cant stand it.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Be careful about going round saying bold statements like that. You include an awful lot of people by saying such things.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Do I care? Is a Teeny-mum now going to e-slap me?
Common! I dont have respect for low-life pieces of crap like them. Fair and simple.

Edited by Hooligan, 24 May 2005 - 06:47 PM.