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#1 DAEDRICK

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 09:57 PM

yeah...i saw some of your building and...compared to the other team...they will have a %$/&*? big advantage on all the other team...this team will own all the other one... :p


just for exemple...the troll pit cost 1200 and the troll around 900...and the stable of the elves team 800 and the horse will cost what?!around 400...600? :p

you know what i mean!!!! :dry:

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 10:07 PM

Why on earth are you comparing Riders of Rivendell to Trolls?

For your information: Riders of Rivendell will be statistically no better than the Rohirrim, they will just play differently. However, while their dwelling costs as much as the Rohan Stables, the Riders of Rivendell themselves cost 100 more than the Rohirrim. On top of this, the numbers are not final. Depending on how I make them, they may end up being bumped up to 800 resources.

And anyway, Mordor is the biggest threat to the Elves because of their incredibly slow build. A well-used Mordor-Rush will be the easiest way to beat the Elves. They wouldn't even need Trolls.

EDIT: And for the love of... Would you actually finish reading what the site says? Right in the Stables section it says that the Riders of Rivendell cost 700 resources. Not the 400-600 that you pulled out of no where.

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#3 DAEDRICK

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 10:43 PM

lol!!! i was comparing the troll whit the riders cause the trolls are the only way ,for the modor, at the beginning of the game ,to kill the riders...and if the stable is faster to build than the troll pit then the modor dont have a chance!!!


and if a only raid of orcs can destroy the elves base at the beginning of the game its all the way too easy for a normal skilled mordor player to kill his openent!!!


800+700=1500 and 1200+900=2100...so 2100-1500=600...yeah its look like balanced. :p


sorry if i didnt see it...lol but i wasnt so far!!! :dry:

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:05 AM

and if a only raid of orcs can destroy the elves base at the beginning of the game its all the way too easy for a normal skilled  mordor player to kill his openent!!!

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Oh but this is the fun part of making a new faction :dry: . I'm really trying to open up for new strategies with the Elves (their unique Castle and defence, for instance). A lot of this is all going to be kept quiet till release though.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:39 AM

lol kk i understand!!! :dry:

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#6 OoN|Valandil

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 05:15 PM

lol!!! i was comparing the troll whit the riders cause the trolls are  the only way ,for the modor, at the beginning of the game ,to kill the riders...and if the stable is faster to build than the troll pit then the modor dont have a chance!!!


and if a only raid of orcs can destroy the elves base at the beginning of the game its all the way too easy for a normal skilled  mordor player to kill his openent!!!


800+700=1500 and 1200+900=2100...so 2100-1500=600...yeah its look like balanced.  :)


sorry if i didnt see it...lol but i wasnt so far!!! ;)

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Comparing like that is BS, what about Mumakil, a lot more than trolls, but it's still balanced

#7 DAEDRICK

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 01:21 PM

nah you dont understand...when you plya mordor vs rohan for exemple...the only unit which can kill horse AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME(cause the muma arent purchased at the begining of the game cause they are too expensive)is the troll...and if the elven's horse units are made like 2 sec after the beginning of the game the modor will be completly dominate cause it can just make orc,at the beginning...


and btw what *on earth* is BS?!

*EDIT by Celeglin: Now let's not get hostile :sad:

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 03:09 PM

What are you crying about? Gondor has no anti cavalry units, look if you're going to keep screaming about how Rohan is going to own Mordor or cavalry, look at Gondor, their first units are soldiers and archers. Play skirmish once again, play AS Rohan against Gondor, after half an hour? You probably can own them, trebuchet are too slow against cavalry, archers and soldiers are trampable, you need to wait until they get cavalry and fountain guards. And if you actually play Mordor properly, you get haradrim because they're powerhouse units, orcs are just for melee "whatever just die" units, haradrim are very good against cavalry, then after a few squads, easterlings, if you play the campaign, why do they always through out haradrim and easterlings? cause Haradrim are powerful and easterlings make you think twice before trampling.

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#9 DAEDRICK

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 12:50 AM

firts im not crying...

and i was just trying to help them whit the balance of the team thats all...


anyway i shut the hell up!!!

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 06:38 AM

Oh yea I played as Rohan against Mordor on skirmish, Rohirrim charging against a squad of Haradrim = Three deaths of Rohirrim. And playing as Mordor agaisnt Rohan, they not only attacked with Rohirrim, but with yeomen and peasents, if you play online and the guy's a trampling freak, let them taste the spears from the men of the east.

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#11 OoN|Valandil

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 08:56 PM

Ok stop arguing now, and I cannot tell you what BS is, I'd probably get spanked

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 02:17 PM

I wouldn't even post the cost in the premake of the mod. All my premake stuff is $1 cause balancing comes in the second phase.

Oh and I'm probably the worst person who ever played the game. I sometimes lose to medium players. :(

:) I suck cause i can't play online against other players. My authernticy code if "f'ed" or something. Either that or I just suck. I'm a much better modder than player.

But I have fun non the less. ;)

Ok stop arguing now, and I cannot tell you what BS is, I'd probably get spanked


I believe it stands for bullshit. You can curse here. This is not a childs forum. ;)

#13 Celeglin

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 04:10 PM

*spanks Hostile*

:)

And yeah, I can't play online either (dial up connection) so I really don't know the current playing trends ro how I'd stack up against them. The only thing I can do is turtle with Rohan to get Elves and Heroes ;) .

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#14 OoN|Valandil

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 03:43 PM

:p I suck cause i can't play online against other players. My authernticy code if "f'ed" or something.

Ok stop arguing now, and I cannot tell you what BS is, I'd probably get spanked

I believe it stands for bullshit. You can curse here. This is not a childs forum. ;)

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It does indeed stand for Bullshit, and by f'ed, don't you mean fucked :blink:

#15 Celeglin

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 07:02 PM

*spanks Valandil as well*

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 07:15 PM

dont complain about balance till you play it!!
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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:38 AM

but it ish not out yet lol

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 10:18 AM

slightly off topic but what is the offical LOTR of the ring currency?

It can't be $ :dry:
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#19 Celeglin

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 12:34 PM

In all honesty, I haven't the slightest clue. Off the top of my head I'd say they all just traded stuff but... Heck, I really don't know :dry: .

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#20 OoN|Valandil

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Posted 13 July 2005 - 06:50 AM

Did they even have money?




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