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#1 Pendaelose

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 01:37 AM

I had a devious thaught the other day and realized I actualy had a good idea... its still to early to share my idea, but if you had 9 more generals to work with in the game, WHO would you add???

I've thaught maybe a Russian force, similare to Rise of the Reds, or NATO/UN Coalition forces (mostly European, USA already in game)

I've heard suggestions of a GLA savlage General...

Get creative... an all Mech General.... or a Rogue AI army (SkyNet), or invading aliens... I just want ideas... I don't care where from. If you have an idea but it needs explanation, then throw it in.
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Posted 19 July 2005 - 04:01 AM

What each get 3 general each side like for
1.USA:Tech gen with high tech weapony
2.Special Forces with highly skilled units
3 UN/Britan force with all Britan tech

China-
1.Russian force with all Russian tech
2.Precision strike Gen. with weapons with high strike stuff
3. Blitzkrieg Gen with fast attack vehicles and the Chinese jet, the J-10:Posted Image

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1.Anti-Air Gen.,what General with alot of Anti-aircraft weapons like the:Posted Image and what about mobile Flak 88 trucks too
2.Anti-tank Gen. with anti-tank weapons like the IS-2:Posted Image a Russian tank use in WW2 with a 122mm cannon
3.WW2 tech Gen,using the Best of the WW2 weapons and tanks like the IS-2 heay tank,Flak88,and other like the Tiger 2s,M-26,Sturmtiger,T95/T28,and more secrets or heavy weapons that was made during WW2.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 10:38 AM

USA Gens:
*Rank Gen* would be like normal usa but with moust (or all) units trained to lvl 3 (2 lines) and eanableing units to lvl one more lvl than others (4 lines)

China Gens:
*Propaganda Gen* all his tactics are based up propaganda makeing his units very powerfull, he would eaven have the ability to get his enemys to follow him (propaganda strike)

GLA Gens:
*Slavage Gen* all what he has is based on the reamains of his enemy.his units get armor upgrade eavry time they colect slavage parts. he can eaven revrse-enginner other buildings and get upgrades (maybe eaven build them) and he can sell all of his buildings.

NEW SIDES

AOEN (Army Of the Evropean Nations):they use hot-fusion generators to power their buildings. useing hi-tech and the best tactics in the world they pulverize theirs enemys. their main super weapon is the fusion bomb (launched from a hi-precizion cannon it destroys a biger area than a nuke but dosen leave the radiation).

AOEN Gens:
*Hi-Tech Gen (germany)* moust of his units are experimental so they have bugs and big weaknesses.
*Special-ops (France)* eavry unit is only good in one point but beather than others.
*Support gen (Italy)* has very good defence and moust of his units are hybrids, specialized in supporting each-other (trop transporter + light tank)
*Fortifying or bunker gen (SE Evrope)* can fortify his buildings (only he can do that), has tank bunkers (and so on) and has partizans (cheap, stealthed rifle units. are very powerful in groups and can fortify eaven over-taken buildings)
*Energy gen (UK)* all of his units are based on electricity (shock trooper,...),
his powerplants are imune to saboter and Co (can eaven get a anti-EMP armor upgrade) and his super-weapon is the Thunder cannon (you can operate it like the spector gunship: you set a area, then a target and lightnigs hit the target).

I have lots of ides for the gens but i didnt want to whrite them all up.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 05:38 PM

USA: Marine Chor General
specialised Forces, like Marine, F-35 VTOL, AH-64-Gunschip, and other Stuff the Marines use
China: Space Division general
lots of spacy technology, like Anti-Mater Bombs, Black hole generators, improved Satellite weapons and surveillance
GLA: Salvage General
lots of stolen technology, but not hole tanks, just parts of them and some old stuff like V1 Missiles from WW2

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 05:47 PM

acctuly the slavage gen was my idea.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 05:59 PM

acctuly the slavage gen was my idea.

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Gredinus, don't worry to much about... if somebody else likes the idea be glad.

What about whole new factions, not GLA USA or China... I liked the European Coalition Idea, or a Russian force, what Generals would you add there?

don't forget this is an alternate future, some groups may have changed drasticly.. example: Is USA still part of the UN or NATO? If these forces were added would they be oposing :D ? Or N. Korea and Vietnam could have allied with other South East Asian countries and made a new Faction Oposed to China. Or the other way around, N. Korea could have been Ocupied by China. In an alternate future theres no limit to the ideas. :D
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Posted 19 July 2005 - 08:52 PM

Story for AOEN.
Chapter 1:All your OIL are belong to US(A).
Becose of the gready actions made by USA for geting OIL, the EU broke up the NATO (The UN survived so some realationships where left).

Chapter 2:The war begins.
the war started when USA became to gready and the GLA emarged.
China saw that theres a opportunity where they can get their glory back.
The EU offerd to support the USA forces if they would protect them, while covering it up as a UN action.

Chapter 3:Zero Hour.
Eaven when the USA join up with China they cant hold the borders of Evrope from the GLA forces. So the EU begins project AOEN (in secrecy), that it can protect its borders.
USA leaves Evrope, destroying their last connection (the UN).

Chapter 4:The AOEN is born.
China abandons all realationships with USA. China makes a massive push trught GLA teritory and attacks the EU borders (they get a hell of a suprise).the EU has immobilized and equipted (with hi-tech) its units, forming a single army called the AOEN. Chinas attacking force was destroyed in a matter of hours and AOEN declared war to all who dared to opose them.

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 09:23 PM

All your OIL are belong to USA

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lol I've seen a T-Shirt that has that on it... I want one for next time I'm Deployed in Iraq.
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 04:00 AM

i'd love to see the covenent from halogen mod, in the mod :ohmy: :dry:

the aliens have been watching as WW3 begins(described by Gredinus) and they think this is the perfect time to strike...
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 10:46 AM

i'd love to see the covenent from halogen mod, in the mod :) :ohmy:

the aliens have been watching as WW3 begins(described by Gredinus) and they think this is the perfect time to strike...

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Aliens ??? :p Thats good... I think that a salvage gen is preety good idea ! And my opinion is that fast attack generals should not be included ! All rounded generals is what the game wants, cause a fast attack unit has no hope when the other army has good defenses... Dont thin that a fast attack gen can rush before the other has defenses, no way ! The other has good defenses and then you cant touch him ! I think that an china airforce gen should be very good ! With j-13 and j-10, compined with a bomber would be its basic force, Russia as a country is also a very good idea ! With two generals : the first a tank gen and the second something like the nike gen but with tesla technology !!! His tanks will fire HE shells filled with electricity, His superweapon a huge cannon with tesla warhead or a nuke silo with a tesla warhead missile... The Europe as a country is the best idea i think,, having Eurofighter planes jas grippens (oh i forgot europe combined with UK) chalenger 2, Mlrs firing an extremelly large amount of rockets and highly trained infantry ! Two generals for Europe : The first is an all round general having medium-good units, but having planes, tanks, infantry, artillery everything ! And the second is a rocket general ! Having any type of rocket launchers, and for superweapon a volley of Misssiles launched from a satellite !!! And maybe a third gen using energy ! imunity to any ecm's emp's and for weapons any type of beams : Laser, Energy bolts, Energy filled shells....For now i think that we have gathered alot of suggestions ! :dry:
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 02:20 PM

The whole idea comes from one thing...

You choose your Side :USA you start with a Command Center, it has 4 buttons Laser, Air, SuperWeapon, Robot. You click the button and get the force you want. Your Command center stays the same, but the emblem changes to the force you chose, and a Dozer deploys out at the same time. Thus, You can have every General for that faction start and only use 1 of the 12 generals slots.

So a euro force, or a russian force, each with as many generals as you want would fit in one slot each. :ohmy: And because it walks right past the 12 limit you could add up to 26 generals per faction (use the secondary menu for aditional generals choices. 26 generals for each of 12 factions I wouldn't add that many, but you could :dry:

I even figured out a way to work around the 128 upgrade limit.

It leaves alot of room to the imagination to play with.

I'm looking at the poor shmuck who has to code that many generals (probobly me) so I'm looking at the easy way out. I've found about 6 other Total Conversion Mods that could be compressed in the same style and all fit as alternate Factions. Saddly I couldn't share anyhting with that much Blatant coppying, but for personal use it would be the ultimate Mod.

the other better alternative is to get differnt people to work togeather and each design a full tree of factions, like one per Coder, and then bring them all to geather as an ultimate mod. Even if Creator wanted to work on this with me, it would take a whole lot more than 2 or 3 people to make 9 new factions with multiple generals Each.
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 02:33 PM

on that way you will get a download over 1 gigabyte if every general has his own custom models :dry:

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 02:58 PM

on that way you will get a download over 1 gigabyte if every general has his own custom models :dry:

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yes, I know it would be huge... but that doesn't scare me :cool: large files need a stable connection to DL, not a fast one. I've played around with a few lists. I think after being RARed it would be a 100-150 meg DL. Most factions would only have 1-6 generals.


My dream list is mostly pulled from other mods that are TC of my favorite things.

ZeroHour:
USA (4-6 generals)
China (4-5)
GLA (5)

StarKiller:
Terrans(3)
Protoss(2)
Zerg(1)

Capellan Solution:
InnerSphere & Clans (2)

OnlyWar: (I'm not 100% sure what armies are included)
Space Marines (4)
Eldar (2)
Space Orks(1)

Imperial Assault:
Imperial (4)
Rebel (4)

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 04:20 PM

plz no starcraft in it :cool:

pendealose if you think you had a strong ai play starcraft :dry:

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 04:31 PM

plz no starcraft in it :cool:

pendealose if you think you had a strong ai play starcraft :dry:

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lol I'd love to... do they have a good download yet?? last I saw on ModDB was just videos.

I'm a sci-fi fan and I dream of a good Everybody vs Anybody... Imperial Space Marines vs Protoss, or Zerg vs BattleTech, but like I said before, with all those other Mods I couldn't use it without getting all thier permitions, and thats not very likely.

The best thing to do would be make 9 NEW factions from scratch. Maybe find that many experienced Modders who are willing to work on one faction each.
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 04:45 PM

hmm i was thinking that my gens (with AOEN) would be added to contra not as a ultimate mod project.

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 05:08 PM

i mean original starcraft :dry:

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 05:22 PM

blizzard doesn't like when someone is using their ideas
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 05:28 PM

blizzard doesn't like when someone is using their ideas
Xel'Naga Vengeance

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Xelnaga Vengence was renamed StarKiller and is back under production. the author changed all the names that were in direct copyright violation. Check it out on ModDB... As a parrody or spin off its OK...
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 05:53 PM

sorry for off topic but...
talking about parody, i've just seen 'Dawn of the Dead' and there was a trailer of
'Shaun of the Dead', i have to see that movie :dry: :cool: :lol:
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