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[LarkinVB]

As I don't have the sources at hand please explain these for me :

"eldar_warlock_ability_research",
"eldar_warlock_ability_research_1",
"eldar_warlock_ability_research_2",
"eldar_warlock_ability_research_3",
"eldar_farseer_ability_research",
"eldar_farseer_ability_research_3",

Edited by LarkinVB, 31 July 2005 - 11:30 AM.

[Markoso]

Most likely Conceal,Embolden , Entangle, and Power Weapons (in that order I hope) for the Warlocks. With Fortune and Eldritch storm for the Farseer.

[LarkinVB]

Confirmed by others ?

[Flenser]

"eldar_warlock_ability_research", -- conceal
"eldar_warlock_ability_research_1", -- embolden
"eldar_warlock_ability_research_2", -- warlock power weapon upgrade
"eldar_warlock_ability_research_3", -- warlock power weapon upgrade 2
"eldar_farseer_ability_research", -- fortune
"eldar_farseer_ability_research_3", -- eldritch storm

Entangle is - bizarrely - eldar_bonesinger_ability_research_1

Just FYI this is the Eldar research order I used for my own testing (never posted this now I think about it):-

         "eldar_fleet_of_foot_research",
                        "eldar_plasma_grenade_research",
                        "eldar_bonesinger_ability_research_1", --entangle
                        "eldar_tier2_research", --mobilize for war
                        "eldar_research_infantryhealth_1",
                        "eldar_research_infantryaccuracy_1",
                        "eldar_warlock_ability_research", --conceal
                        "eldar_farseer_ability_research", --fortune
                        "eldar_farseer_ability_research2", --guide
                        "eldar_farseer_ability_research_3", --eldritch storm
                        "eldar_requisition_research_1",
                        "eldar_research_farseerhealth_1",
                        "eldar_research_infantryhealth_2",
                        "eldar_research_infantryaccuracy_2",
                        "eldar_vehicle_ability_research",
                        "eldar_warlock_ability_research_1", --embolden
                        "eldar_power_research_1",
                        "eldar_warlock_ability_research_2", --warlock power weapon upgrade
                        "eldar_research_farseerhealth_2",
                        "eldar_requisition_research_2",
                        "eldar_power_research_2",
                        "eldar_warlock_ability_research_3", --warlock power weapon upgrade 2
                        "eldar_webway_gate_healing_research",                        
                        --put researches here that the Eldar AI will not yet use
                        --TODO: enable use of the abilities unlocked by these researches
                        --"eldar_bonesinger_ability_research_3", --wraithtomb
                        --"eldar_ranger_infiltration_research",

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[LarkinVB]

Are you sure its eldar_farseeeldar_farseer_ability_research2 and not eldar_farseer_ability_research_2 ?

I like this order better so I will use it too. Any recommendations to improve are fine.

[Quitch]

I just wonder, what with Fleet of Foot and their hit/run strat, if Eldar wouldn't benefit from getting their damage upgrade before their health. I don't know how real Eldar players tend to play it though.

[Quitch]

Since FoF ensures the Eldar shouldn't lose anyone anyway, I'd say the damage should come first. Health is for the SM and their apocs

[Flenser]

Are you sure its eldar_farseeeldar_farseer_ability_research2 and not eldar_farseer_ability_research_2 ?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You are right - I missed the _

Flenser

[LarkinVB]

Isn't eldar_farseer_ability_research_2 (guide) an inherent ability of the FS so it's not needed in the research order at all ?

[Flenser]

Isn't eldar_farseer_ability_research_2 (guide) an inherent ability of the FS so it's not needed in the research order at all ?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Don't know. Why would Relic create a research file for something that did not need to be researched? The lua file even has cost entries.

Flenser

[LarkinVB]

Thudo ?

[thudo]

I would have to check that. Seems fishy to me. At present, I can't remember if the FS starts with GUIDE or not although it wouldn't surprise me that Relic mixed that up - their only god-like dieties who screw up once and a while. One needs to examine the .rgd from the /attrib folder in the .sga and just see what gives. Unless of course the research item UPGRADES the guide ability. If not, its pointless. One just needs to play the game and see what gives. Probably an oversight by the Relic crew.

[Flenser]

----------------------------------------
-- File: 'eldar_farseer_ability_research_2'
-- Created by: AttributeEditor v2.0
-- Note: Do NOT edit by hand!
-- (c) 2001 Relic Entertainment Inc.

GameData = Inherit("eldar_farseer_ability_research")

GameData["time_cost"]["cost"]["power"] = 5.000
GameData["time_cost"]["cost"]["requisition"] = 50.000
GameData["ui_hotkey_name"] = "eldar_farseer_ability_research_2"
GameData["ui_index_hint"] = 6.000
GameData["ui_info"]["help_text_id"] = "$96231"
GameData["ui_info"]["help_text_list"]["text_01"] = "$96232"
GameData["ui_info"]["help_text_list"]["text_02"] = "$96233"
GameData["ui_info"]["help_text_list"]["text_03"] = ""
GameData["ui_info"]["icon_name"] = "eldar_icons/guide_icon"
GameData["ui_info"]["screen_name_id"] = "$96230"

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[thudo]

Yeaaa thats most unusual why Relic would make it a research item when the FC already comes with Guide? As mentioned, unless it upgrades Guide from the stock ability.

[Quitch]

I would guess that at one time she didn't start with guide.