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Posted 04 September 2005 - 05:47 PM

humm.. How to sneak this in, without anyone who knows me noticing it.. ;)

Tiberus Template is a free php website template with switchable skins:
http://tiberus.dayonic.net/

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 06:14 PM

Log in! Log in! ;)

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Posted 23 November 2005 - 08:37 PM

Hey wait, you're dayonic, that guy who shut down SourceBlog for a while. :-E

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either way, the templates ok. But don't touch sourceblog ever again.
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Posted 23 November 2005 - 10:14 PM

Hey Look its my evil counter-part! You can tell he's evil because he has an 'n' at the end of the name :)
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Posted 23 November 2005 - 10:15 PM

Hey wait, you're dayonic, that guy who shut down SourceBlog for a while. :-E

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either way, the templates ok. But don't touch sourceblog ever again.

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 12:09 AM

The domain runs out in a few months, then the place will go poof again.

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Posted 26 November 2005 - 04:45 AM

There are better ways to switch skins.
http://www.alistapar...ries/alternate/
http://www.alistapar...cles/phpswitch/
http://www.dzr-web.c...heet-switching/
http://css-discuss.i...=StyleSwitching


Why tables for layout is stupid
Why avoiding tables (for layout) is important
http://www.workingwi.../tablefree/why/
http://www.sitepoint.../tables-vs-css/
http://www.phrogz.ne...dForLayout.html
http://www.westciv.c...il/dead_layout/

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Posted 26 November 2005 - 09:18 PM

If i knew how to make divs sit next to each other horizontaly, i'd never use a table again..

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Posted 26 November 2005 - 10:52 PM

There is a way to work divs as columns , but it is considered a hack and basically only works on minimal layouts with little to none graphics incorporated...

I use divs for everything except columns. You will require tables until all browsers support css3 at least (since css3 has column properties for divs), and since most browsers dont even fully support css2 yet - dont count on tables being out of the way soon.

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Posted 27 November 2005 - 12:21 AM

I still think a judicious mix of tables, div's, and CSS is the way to go. Way too many ugly hacks required to make a CSS layout work. Tables might be messy, but they get the job done.
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Posted 27 November 2005 - 03:10 AM

I still think a judicious mix of tables, div's, and CSS is the way to go.  Way too many ugly hacks required to make a CSS layout work.  Tables might be messy, but they get the job done.

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Exactly what i'm implying. There are situations where tables are just better to use than divs.

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 05:52 AM

If i knew how to make divs sit next to each other horizontaly, i'd never use a table again..

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You can use floats and margins or absolute positioning to do that.


To make complicated tableless layouts work in IE a few hacks are usually needed. I suggest you read the articles I linked to.


I suggest you look at some of these.

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 07:15 AM

Those are hacks that tend to fall apart. I've tried a tableless 3 column layout and had no end of issues with it not behaving properly, and just said stuff it and threw in a couple tables to fix it. It probably could be done properly without tables, I just couldn't find a way and couldn't be asked to do it.
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Posted 28 November 2005 - 05:36 PM

You can use floats and margins or absolute positioning to do that.

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Absolute positioning isn't always viable, floats fall down to the next line when they dont meet the window width. Tables are permanent, hence they are superior for column layouts.

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Posted 30 November 2005 - 06:24 AM

Yes, tables are often more flexible and easier to use, however, using them for layout is not semantically correct.

Making good tableless layouts does require a lot of practice.

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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:15 AM

I'll officially say divs great for column layouts when all browsers use the css3 specification, since thats when divs will get their css column property - something that should have been there from the beginning.

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 03:39 AM

"Hindsight is Always 20/20"

CSS was a new technology when it came out, how could they think of every feature that someone might want?

Edited by Kravvitz, 01 December 2005 - 03:40 AM.





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