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[Athena]

I take with that you mostly mean the ones who have strong 'classical' autism to a very high degree. People with intelligence are able to make up for what they aren't so good at, like with Asperger. That has its pros too.

But things aren't equal indeed. It'd be great if it was, but society changes things. Even the colour of your skin matters to some, or it has in the past anyway.

[Jeeves]

What are the pro's of Aspergers?

[Tom]

The physical body is the illusion in this life. We possess it at birth and assume its role. If God does exist how are you so sure thye didn't choose to exist in these bodies? They still have something to learn from it here or "after." I'm not entirely sure how people can judge such things. I was trying to dwell into the mind of a "special person" after seeing many and realise they are no different from us. They have friends, they make friends, they talk, they move, they grow and some are intelligent dispite any physical "issues." It is only because people see them as "unequal" and they become unequal.

As for autism, some of that is genetic however i think you'll find a majority of the new cases are based on toxic metals such as mercury and other chemicals that cause the brain to change function.

Either why, mental or physical disabilities do not mean you cannot live a life and learn from it. IF there is an afterlife, the physical and mental disabilities are irrelevent anyway.

What are the pro's of Aspergers?

Many of them don't understand sarcasm so really don;t respond to it. I know from one of my mates who has it. If you say something sarcastic he'll just look blankly at you as if you didn't say anything at all lol

[Athena]

My uncle has it too. But how's not understanding sarcasm a pro?

I have an 'article' about it from a few years ago, in Dutch unfortunately, but I'll translate the part what it's about:

Ze zijn over het algemeen : eerlijk, loyaal, betrouwbaar, recht door zee, ze hebben een hoge morele code en een groot gevoel voor rechtvaardigheid, een goed geheugen, enthousiasme en kennis van een speciaal onderwerp en een originele manier van denken, goede verbeeldingskracht en een opmerkelijk vermogen in beelden te denken."

honest, loyal, reliable, straightforward, they have a high moral code and a good feeling for justice, a good memory, enthousiasm and knowledge of a special subject and an original way of thinking, good imagination and a remarkable skill to think in images.

Talk to me on MSN if you want to, Jeeves.

Indeed it is society which makes that unequalness. Every human being has his/her good and bad points and no one is better than another. We are equal, yet different, and that's what makes it fun.
Hybrid, what kind of new cases and chemicals? I'd like to hear more about that (doesn't have to be neccesarily in this topic though ).

[MSpencer]

People aren`t evil by nature, the thnigs they do and the way the grow up makes them evil. God made us all equal.

God didn't make us. We made us through millions of years of evolution from the simplest bacteria to homo sapien sapien.

I've still seen no credible evidence to prove al qaeda exists.

If you paid attention to the world before 2001, you'd realize that al Qaeda was always there. They did the USS Cole you know, that was before Bush.

Oh and if we want multiple faces...



They're all Erwin von Witzleben, an anti-Nazi German Field Marshal who was executed in 1944. Don't look the same, do they?



If you look at any two pictures, like these two of Heinz Guderian, you'd realize that people DON'T PHOTOGRAPH THE SAME ALL THE TIME. It's a pure fact which cannot be ignored, and it doesn't say that there's a conspiracy.

Edited by MSpencer, 05 February 2006 - 03:25 PM.

[link.the.first]

Reason a lot of people over here didn't know about Al Queda is probably because 9/11 is the biggest move they have ever made and they didn't do anything nearly as big before that, plus the fact that it's a little hard to get people over here to attack something and they rarely manage to do so. They figured they should go big with the only time they could get over here.

As for God, I don't believe in that because there are some things that contradict and because there's too much evidence to the contrary and none for God. Besides, if the afterlife is paradise then why bother with Earth?

Anyway, about good vs evil, some people are born more aggressive than others, but yes a lot of it depends on where you grew up.

[Tom]

Maybe so spence, but theres a slight difference. One the 9/11 bin laden is fat and chubby, uses his right hand although hes listed as left handed and wears a gold ring which apparently isn't islamic. There is also a story that OBL went to Al Jazeraa and said the US are always blaming attacks on him, he is not responsible for 9/11. Ignoring the fact he was ill and apparently was in a US hospital in july 2001:

http://www.tenc.net/misc/lefigaro.htm
http://www.infowars....din_Hopital.htm
http://www.rense.com/general16/bin.htm

He was also apparently getting medical treatment a day before on 10th Sept:
http://www.cbsnews.c...ain325887.shtml

To me bin laden has become Goldstein from 1984, distractions using hatred towards him.

Oh and the 9/11 tape is inconsistant with the truth: http://archives.cnn.....binladen.tape/

Bin Laden jokes that some of the 19 hijackers of the four jets did not know they were going to die, but thought they were to assist in a more routine hijacking, the officials said.

9 of the hijackers are still alive.

Actually the more i research it the more and more ridiculous i find the official story to be, considering the inconsistancies with it, you'd think bin laden the mastermind behind the attacks would know how many real hijackers there were.

[MSpencer]

Mmm... you're ridiculous.
1. If you're on the run, you tend to lose a bit of weight. It happens, bad diet, etc.
2. You don't have to be conscious in Afghanistan to have your operatives carry out an operation in America.
3. What hijackers are alive? What?

[Tom]

1. If your ill, you tend not to do anything stupid. Its logic.
2. He wasn't in afghanistan at the time and also he is ruled by afghan law which said he could not do such operations.
3. I've shown this time adn time again. Here for the 5th or so time:

http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/1559151.stm
http://www.whatreall.../atta_9-11.html
http://prisonplanet...._in_the_us.html
http://www.whatreall...ers_flt_11.html
http://www.americanf...ed_up_on_t.html
http://www.whatreall.../hijackers.html
http://www.guardian....,601550,00.html
http://www.portal.te.../23/widen23.xml
http://www.whatreall...com/jarrah.html

Hence they seem to use the excuse "men with stolen idenities" rofl. Who stole them then? The US government?

Also one apparent hijacker has trouble with flying lessons: http://billstclair.c...news102101.html

I also posted this in the 9/11 topic:
http://video.google....581991288263801

Its 1h 20mins documentary on 9/11 "conspiracy." Up to you if it would interest you to watch it. Personally i believe its worth it as it has interesting evidence and isn't like typical conspiracy videos like Alex Jones etc, all overhyped and over the top with false crying etc. Its a video that focuses on the inconsistancies, analyses the data and images and no hoaky crap like "the planes had something on the bottom."

[Mastermind]

If you read the BBC/Guardian stories, you'd note that two of the "hijackers" they list as being alive, did indeed have their identification documents (passports and such) stolen. So, they could very well have been used by the actual hijackers, which would be where the stolen identities came from. It wouldn't surprise me in the least that something like that would be done, as you have less to worry about if you use false identities, such as terror watch lists and such.

[Tom]

Of course, but what about the passport found by the FBI the one that managed to survive the explosion unscarred. Too many inconsistencies, lies and falsities which makes it so difficult to tell what the truth really is.

[Mastermind]

Of course, but what about the passport found by the FBI the one that managed to survive the explosion unscarred. Too many inconsistencies, lies and falsities which makes it so difficult to tell what the truth really is.

It's quite surprising the random things that can survive an airplane crash, or a house fire, or what have you. You can watch the news, and see someone's house burn down, but a few days later they'll be combing the rubble, and find some precious thing like a photograph or something, and it somehow survived almost completely intact. A passport is a fairly durable thing (at least I think they are), so one surviving a plane crash is, while not completely expected, plausible in my mind.

[Kazyumi]

I don't think its plausible that the passports didn't vaporarise along with the entire plane, which they did according to the official source.

Edited by Holly-gan, 06 February 2006 - 09:11 PM.

[Mastermind]

Planes can't vaporize. There isn't enough energy to destroy the entire thing. At most they burn, and fire isn't a perfect destructive force. Things can, and often do survive fires.

[Kazyumi]

Thank you for noticing MM, now please tell me where exactly did the boeings go then, if they didn't vaporise inside the building?
If there at all were any boeings that collided with the Pentagon..

Edited by Holly-gan, 06 February 2006 - 09:46 PM.

[Tom]

I'll post this video again as the guy actually uses some science to prove that its not likely a plane "vaporised" in the pentagon. I am not asking anyone to agree with it, but i do think if no one is willing to watch any such things from the "other point of view" then how can we judge what really happened?

http://video.google....581991288263801