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[Jeeves]

Is IE7 any good?
I'd go back to IE if it is, I only like firefox for the tabs. Other than that, firefox crashes about 5 times more than IE, and take 10x longer to load.
Yes, I really really like tabs.

[Paladin58]

Was that an exaggeration, Jeeves, or are you talking for real? FF for me runs waaay faster than IE. I also like the tabs.

[Blodo]

FF used 20 MB on my laptop (one site open, Google), IE (version 6 something I think, also Google open) used 30 MB. FF uses more RAM if you have more sites open, and same goes for IE (or rather, there's multiple instances in Task Manager all eating 25-30 MB per one instance, in the case of IE). I don't know about IE version 7 beta. Anyway, it's still what a person overall prefers.

Opera doesnt take near as much amount of memory as firefox when it has a lot of sites open..

BTW IE can be secured by getting service pack 2 and the google toolbar, and you can get tabs by using the msn toolbar. The argument that IE is insecure is null anyways, because FF is insecure itself.

Edited by Blodo, 12 May 2006 - 12:59 AM.

[Jeeves]

Oh it runs faster when its finished opening, but takes much longer to warm up.
The 5x crashiness is from an estimated average of 2 crashes/day (IE) vs 5 (Mozilla)

[Komataguri]

IE sucks, is vulnerable, and doesnt have tabs. Use firefox, kazi

Fanboyism spreads faster than a florida wild fire.

[Banshee]

If you use FF with some optimizations, FF will definitelly load pages faster than IE.

I've used Opera few times in my life, when it wasn't free, and I liked. I admit I'm lazy to install it and FF currently cover my needs.

Firefox is as heavy as Delphi here, using a minimum of 60mb of RAM in my computer. IE 6 uses less. But Firefox loads the text (content) as it gets the content, while IE loads the whole stuff before displaying the site. For this feature, Firefox works better with me, since I visit too many forums, where text (content) is more important than most of images and it allows me to browse forums faster.

So, this is the reason I use Firefox. There are other things, however, they aren't really exclusive to Firefox:

Tabs makes things much more confortable, specially to find the other applications I'm using (which is usually a high ammount). IE7 does have tabs, same for Opera.

I feel safer with Firefox because of the popup blocker. I'm sure all good browsers today have a good popup block, or a way to have one.

The Google Search thing that comes by default in Firefox, save lifes! But all browsers can have that and more with Google Toolbar.

ActiveX definitelly does not attract me. Extensions doesn't attract me either, unless they have a good purpose, although I prefer extensions over ActiveX, since I have a better control of them.

RSS support from Firefox is something I rarely use, honestly...

Regarding crashes, older 1.0.x versions of Firefox crashed more than IE here. The latest 1.5.x never crashed here.

I like the way Firefox deals with cache and cookies. They are much more safe to use on public places than IE. And this function to allow cleaning the whole stuff when you leave the browser is excelent.

I'm aware that some sites are still not fully compatible with Firefox. Therefore, I still have IE to browse them.


But, in overall, I like Firefox and I'm happy with it. Maybe Opera, or Avant Browser (that the author of FirefoxMyths) recommend are also good browsers, but Firefox does an excelent job. I'm staying with it, even with those myths (and I doubt that Opera or Avant Browser doesn't have any single vulnerability either and most of FF's vulnerabilties are fixed, unlike IE which is full of them).

[Athena]

BTW IE can be secured by getting service pack 2 and the google toolbar, and you can get tabs by using the msn toolbar. The argument that IE is insecure is null anyways, because FF is insecure itself.

I don't want the Google Toolbar (I have tried it, wasn't fond of it; the small Google toolbar in FF not taking up an extra line of space on the screen I really do like), nor do I want an MSN toolbar and I also don't like Service Pack 2 (I tried it but it messed up some stuff)). But eh, if you want all that, do so. I don't. I'm happy with using FF.

On my laptop, I don't browse a lot of sites or do a lot of stuff at the same time, to (try to) prevent it from swapping heavily. On this pc it doesn't really matter, I can have FF open with some sites while playing a game and still not have swapping. In the end however it is what a user prefers. I prefer FF so I use it.

@ Banshee
Good post.

[chemical ali]

I will go back to IE if version 7 is better than Firefox, I hope someone invents a conversion tool and most likely Vista will be out and the added security in that will be good.

[Komataguri]

BTW IE can be secured by getting service pack 2 and the google toolbar, and you can get tabs by using the msn toolbar. The argument that IE is insecure is null anyways, because FF is insecure itself.

I don't want the Google Toolbar (I have tried it, wasn't fond of it; the small Google toolbar in FF not taking up an extra line of space on the screen I really do like), nor do I want an MSN toolbar and I also don't like Service Pack 2 (I tried it but it messed up some stuff)). But eh, if you want all that, do so. I don't. I'm happy with using FF.

On my laptop, I don't browse a lot of sites or do a lot of stuff at the same time, to (try to) prevent it from swapping heavily. On this pc it doesn't really matter, I can have FF open with some sites while playing a game and still not have swapping. In the end however it is what a user prefers. I prefer FF so I use it.

@ Banshee
Good post.

You do realize you can drag and drop those bars and put them anywhere you want.


I had mine on one line, right next to where I type my addresses.

[Blodo]

On my laptop, I don't browse a lot of sites or do a lot of stuff at the same time, to (try to) prevent it from swapping heavily. On this pc it doesn't really matter, I can have FF open with some sites while playing a game and still not have swapping. In the end however it is what a user prefers. I prefer FF so I use it.

Use Opera on the laptop. You can browse a lot of sites with it using a fraction of the memory FF would use. It all comes down to usability, and thats what i'm suggesting.

[Hrod89]

I already posted about how biased, and in some cases, full of complete shit, that Firefox myths page is once. Do I need to do it again?

[Beowulf]

Apparently you do.

[Destroyer]

I use firefox because IE has always sucked for me, firefox can load pages faster, and firefox has the adblock plus extension.

I don't care about memory use, as I don't play huge games while surfing the interwebs.

[Beowulf]

I can play YR and have a few Firefox windows open without much slowdown at all. Considering the age of this damn thing, that's pretty good.

[Blodo]

I already posted about how biased, and in some cases, full of complete shit, that Firefox myths page is once. Do I need to do it again?

Why don't you post your proof then? The guy on the site posted his.