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Posted 04 January 2006 - 10:24 PM

but it still proves my point that once a missile or shell is hit with a PDL it is completely harmless. Missiles hit the countermeasures and might explode still, but if a missile gets PDLed it will never hurt anything.
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Posted 04 January 2006 - 10:27 PM

and on PDL drones, but i found a problem (or is it) with Las.Gen. Avengers... the PDLs on them sometimes take out infantry....honestly

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Posted 04 January 2006 - 10:33 PM

I don't think that's the PDL. I think the targeting laser was replaced with an actual laser, am I right Vanguard?

Does the Laser Gen avenger actually have a PDL on it? It always seems unreliable and hard to tell until I get a PD drone, which can hit any missile or, I think, artillery.
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Posted 04 January 2006 - 10:35 PM

@link

its that off white looking laser that it sometimes shoots out

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Posted 04 January 2006 - 10:41 PM

I thought it was red.
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Posted 04 January 2006 - 10:48 PM

Doesn't mean that it's unfair, since the PDL can only shoot once it's one second reload time has passed, and at that point, 4 missiles are on the way, only one can be hit, so three more are still gonna hit. And it's the Laser General it's not like any other General has anti-shell PDLs.
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Posted 04 January 2006 - 10:55 PM

vanguard, my avenger can take down 2 of 4.

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Posted 04 January 2006 - 10:55 PM

but if you group a bunch of PDL units together then no missiles can get through to hit any of them. If you have a bunch of Raptors in a formation and a Patriot attacks the leader the first missile gets hit by the leader, the second gets hit immediately after by the one just behind him, the third doesn't fire until the Raptors are right over the Patriots, so a center one stops it, then they get to the other patriots and other planes stop missiles coming from their general direction, and no one scores a hit.
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Posted 04 January 2006 - 11:12 PM

Which is why they are losing the second PDL, because EA gave them two, which is entirely unfair.
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Posted 04 January 2006 - 11:46 PM

Raptors started with 2 PDLs? Never knew that.

China should still get something better at jamming missiles then the ECM tank though. And the GLA could get something too. And Militia.
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Posted 04 January 2006 - 11:51 PM

i agree with Karl, it is overdone, sorry that my reply is late, and alittle off topic
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Posted 05 January 2006 - 01:00 AM

yeah they do... try it sometime you'll notice they shoot faster.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 07:12 PM

And the ramjet is actually the Barett. And it isn't being expiramented with in real life, since their isn't anything called a ramjet. You are thinking of ScramJets which are far more powerful and faster then a bullet.

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urrr... vanguard... i read about ramjet bullets on a strange goverment site can't remember the site name though (oh no!)
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 07:17 PM

the air force gen on gen challenge sends a carpet bomber on medium and hard which has a point defence laser but player versions don't :umad: but then again if you had the chance to completly populate the village with AA bullet firing mini gunners and gattling cannons with the chain gun upgrade then when the bomber is destroyed it stops dead in the air for a split second and then it falls to the floor and having lost all methods of propulsion it drops at a large angle instead of a small angle like it should
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 10:55 PM

Raptors started with 2 PDLs?  Never knew that.

China should still get something better at jamming missiles then the ECM tank though.  And the GLA could get something too.  And Militia.

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I agree, but doesnt China have something to compensate? The Mig armor upgrade is OK but if its ok the Migs should remove the Armor upgrade and get a jammer upgrade instead.
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 09:45 AM

speaking of china does anyone here agree that the black eagle is next to useless? the bombs may be clusters but only actually split up very close to the ground and is pointless to use against structures of any sort since the bomb just hits and causes minor damage which it should do a lot more

now the iron dragon is something! :huh:

the china tech airfields mig-35 renegade isn't as good as expected and i expected it to be a match for air force gens air power i was wrong... :lol:
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 10:59 AM

That is exactly why you dont use them on buildings.

I love the Black eagle cause the cluster bombs simply destroy units on the ground, kinda like a shotgun effect I guess.
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 06:36 PM

Yeah Black Eagles arn't ment for attacks on buildings, because if you use them on a building, they don't releast their bomblets, they only do 10 damage then, but with the releasing of the bomblets on units, it does 410 damage.
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 08:24 PM

An idea for the other nations missile couter measures.

China ground: a vechile or upgrade that allowes a unit to detect a in coming missile and lauch a red hot flare into the air that messes up the missile and the missile hits the flare instead of the unit.

China air: a ECM upgrade to all aircraft not as powerful as the ECM tanks ECM field but still it protects the vechile from 50% of missiles fired at it.

GLA:upgrade a small transmitter that messes up the missiles controls and protects the vechile from 50% of missiles fired at it.

Militia: hmm... gotta think up something low tech anti missile system for them.
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 08:54 PM

Well a tip for attacking buildings with the black eagles:

Will it do lots more damage to buildings if you manually target a location like close to the building? (ctrl+right cick) I dunno, it would be an exellent way to destroy buildings if the black eagles used their full potential.
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