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[MSpencer]

Well, I've looked over the website, and I can tell you it's the most awful proposal for a government I've ever seen since Stalin took power. Not only would it create a pseudo-fascist state ruled by one person for life, but it would put the majority of the country in the hands of every day people. These every day people could be psychotic, legally insane, stupid, or easily swayed by commercials which might paint all but the most blatantly evident fraud in a favorable light. It seeks to create some neo-imperialist nation which would conquer territories with a scant thought about how to get every citizen in the nation together for a senate meeting, and then move on to drafting a fifth of an occupied territory for military service. Hell, one-tenth are suitable in normal conditions! It also places complete trust in electronic currency, and the matters of the treasury not in some treasury department, but in the hands of the senate. Could we overload a normal citizen anymore?
By drafting a fifth of any territory's populace for military service, any government foolish enough to follow this system and conquer another country would simply make that territory beyond useless and invite revolts, protests, and terrorism. While such an idea sounds nice in theory, the over-reliance on computers could be solved one simple way, wire-fraud. Yes, companies and lobbyists would hire hackers en masse to tamper with senate votes, corporations would also to steal money and commit fraud, and of course, the average haxx0r in the Netherlands (Since all hackers are from Amsterdam) would steal more money than is in the treasury, and probably all the money from the nationwide bank system. Hopefully, I'll get some of that money eventually, then I'll laugh at such a political experiment from the bridge of the battleship I bought from the now defunct Druvian Union.
Thank you, next on the chopping block is neo-conservatism.

Oh wait... I just looked at the contact page and community... heh, well this forum's on there, and so is Hybrid. Soo... I think soon I'll be saying farewell.

Edited by MSpencer, 05 March 2006 - 12:46 AM.

[Athena]

the average haxx0r in the Netherlands (Since all hackers are from Amsterdam)

I don't believe that to be true.

I think this idea has some potential (I didn't read every thread, mind).

[Comrade Kal]

I found it fundamentally flawed with the greatest hypocrisy- it claims to be for the good of the people and remove the class system, yet they replace it with - a CASTE system!

[i z 3 r]

Well, I've looked over the website, and I can tell you it's the most awful proposal for a government I've ever seen since Stalin took power. Not only would it create a pseudo-fascist state ruled by one person for life, but it would put the majority of the country in the hands of every day people. These every day people could be psychotic, legally insane, stupid, or easily swayed by commercials which might paint all but the most blatantly evident fraud in a favorable light. It seeks to create some neo-imperialist nation which would conquer territories with a scant thought about how to get every citizen in the nation together for a senate meeting, and then move on to drafting a fifth of an occupied territory for military service. Hell, one-tenth are suitable in normal conditions! It also places complete trust in electronic currency, and the matters of the treasury not in some treasury department, but in the hands of the senate. Could we overload a normal citizen anymore?
By drafting a fifth of any territory's populace for military service, any government foolish enough to follow this system and conquer another country would simply make that territory beyond useless and invite revolts, protests, and terrorism. While such an idea sounds nice in theory, the over-reliance on computers could be solved one simple way, wire-fraud. Yes, companies and lobbyists would hire hackers en masse to tamper with senate votes, corporations would also to steal money and commit fraud, and of course, the average haxx0r in the Netherlands (Since all hackers are from Amsterdam) would steal more money than is in the treasury, and probably all the money from the nationwide bank system. Hopefully, I'll get some of that money eventually, then I'll laugh at such a political experiment from the bridge of the battleship I bought from the now defunct Druvian Union.
Thank you, next on the chopping block is neo-conservatism.

Oh wait... I just looked at the contact page and community... heh, well this forum's on there, and so is Hybrid. Soo... I think soon I'll be saying farewell.

Oh god here we go.

Ok first off. Not every thing that is in the original plan will actually happen. We are giving the Power to the people to decide. And this is not a system that should happen over night. This is a system that will take 50-100 years to impliment. I suggest in asking questions before attacking Druvianism like you are a know it all.

And this lifeterm President you speak of has no power. He is mearly a figurehead.

[Ash]

Sorry to drag us offtopic, but why the FUCK is Revora forum there? o_0 That's just...um, BAD publicity. I don't agree with this Druvianism, for reasons Kal's mentioned. That, and it includes France in its grand plan.

[Tom]

Your ignoring the fact nothing has been decided yet. I'm there to help drewry out with whatever he needs.

[Jeeves]

This is a system that will take 50-100 years to impliment.

WHAT?!? But what if I want to be in a hypocritical facsist cult NOW!
'nuff said, eh?
And all hackers are from Amsterdam? thats news to me

Edited by Jeeves, 05 March 2006 - 10:52 PM.

[Tom]

That, and it includes France in its grand plan.

I'm sure that can be changed The way we are going it appears france won't exist by the end of 2007 because everyone just wants it out of the world

And spence your such a women What the hell are you bitching and moaning about? Your doing what my mother seems very good at doing, pulling shit out of her ass, making something up and then moaning about it even though it wasn't true.

Druvianism is drews ideology. He believes he can solve issues in the world and is at least going to try. There is much i don't agree with ATM but if you didn't realise at this time it isn't exactly a movement, just some mere words on a forum and website. Whether it becomes reality is an entirely seperate function.

MSpencer is also there, he must be one of these corrupt supporters for existing on a forum that he doesn't entirely agree with!!!!

[Ash]

Me and Kal have come up with a means to solve issues in the world. All we get for our trouble is to be slated. I really don't think it's appropriate for Revora to make political affiliations beyond having members who are proponents or opponents to their own political ideal...it's bad news if we get seen to be affiliated with a political group of any sort.

I think the link should be removed. Have Drewry with his sig and stuff by all means, but really...don't bring Revora into this.

[Tom]

Revora doesn't have politicial affiliations. That link has been there since he started that site, that was back early 2005 when he first joined revora. Its absolutely nothing to do with me.

[Ash]

Well, my point is it should be removed, lest it be thought that we're all Druvians, which we're not. I'm surprised Hostile hasn't brought this up sooner. If he hates Commies, I'm surprised he hasn't gone nuclear over that hyperlink...

[i z 3 r]

Your a fool. Druvianism is not communism. And Hybird will do what he wants, hes the founder, I wouldn't challenge him.

[Comrade Kal]

Your a fool.

No, you're a fool.

[duke_Qa]

another society where people are trying to coerce people into believing? why am i not surprized...

[Allied General]

sounds about as plausible as http://www.nationstates.net/alliedg

Also the forum guidelines saying Revora is in no way affiliated with Druvianism, nor are we the official discussion forum, or in any way directly related to The official Druvianism site should also say any political system ...

[Comrade Kal]

Apart from societism, of course, although we haven't completed the transi..

Oh, sorry. Right you are. My mistake, forget I said it.

[chemical ali]

the average haxx0r in the Netherlands (Since all hackers are from Amsterdam)

I don't believe that to be true.

I think this idea has some potential (I didn't read every thread, mind).

G10 was from Netherlands so the place stuck.

This idea is Communism through the back door.

[Athena]

And a statement like that is based on one person?! Now if that doesn't involve generalisation and/or assumptions..
btw iirc he was from The Hague (Den Haag) and not from Amsterdam.

[Ash]

Blaat, stop taking things so seriously. It is actually true most h4><><0r v4mp13rs are from the Netherlands...

Besides, those days are enough to make ANYBODY think that all the hackers are from the netherlands. Besides, he did say all hackers are Dutch, NOT that all Dutch are hackers. So no need to fly off the handle at this one

[Athena]

I didn't flew off the handle as you call it. I was only wondering what makes him say that and whether he has any evidence apart from one person?