42 replies to this topic

[AlexArt]

BTW, will Israel take part in the war? I believe it would, 'cause Irani president said they will wipe Israel off the face of the Earth ))

i doubt that israel will be in a campaing against iran, maybe just for a special bombing, nothing more, isnt a good bussisnes for israel, they didnt went against iraq , coz that could start the fury of the islamic community, remember that iran isnt iraq -im saying about the politic reality now-, iraq invaded a ISLAMIC country (kuwait), that just isolated all iraq in the islamic community, iraq never was very friendly with their islamic partners

I suppose Israel will support USA with armor, their Merkava Mk4 tanks are one of the best to fight in the cities.

[AlexArt]

Related links:

Nuclear War against Iran

Calculating the Risk of War in Iran

[Bigfatkirov]

well, merkava works fine coz the palestinian rebelds fight with stones and woods, dont have AT missiles or rocked grenades, the best stuff they have are home made katiushkas

i think that israel will support better in apossible campaing with special forces,comandos, intelligence and spyes, but the Merkava is interesting, is also a transport, maybe could have 2 slots for passengers

Edited by Bigfatkirov, 23 April 2006 - 05:14 PM.

[Creator]

ok Creator,we are talking about the same thing??, first i find alittle offensive that "mush in your head", lets keep this conversation in a good level, ok?

Excuse me if I had offended you. It comes from the difference between our cultures. I'm from Russia. When somebody confuses many things or saying all wrong, then we say about him: "you have mush in your head" or "you have kissel in your head". No offence. It means that you have just confused something.

second i was wrong about the basora -hell, guess that the continous information from iraq war just got me a little congused -, it wasnt basora, i was talking about the Osirak plant a french nuke plant bombed in early of the 80s, US-Israel can do the same move again

Yes of course. They can do it. But please refresh Chernobyl catastrophe in your mind. It spawned radioactive cloud that polluted all Europe and then reached Canada. Osirak plant was under construction and there were no working reactors there. Destruction of any working power plant will be world wide catastrophe. Israel can feel full destruction power of radioactive clouds.

obvious, if India nd Pakistan start a war, and if the things get serious they will use nukes, -they even had some problems in kashmir and didnt use nukes-, but that dont mean that they gona do nuke sabotages or terrorism, is the same thing to Iran

India and Pakistan did not use nukes because it was local conflict. Both countries were fighting for taking over a piece of ground, but they had no objective to destroy each other completely. The war with Iran differs from a local conflict very much. USA's objective is to destroy and enslave Iran completely. So, Iran will use nuclear weapons because it has no other choice. In all cases it will die. With use of nukeks it will simply destroy more enemies.

I suppose Israel will support USA with armor, their Merkava Mk4 tanks are one of the best to fight in the cities.

No way! Don't you know that Abrams is the most super-duper high-tech big-gun fat-armour and best-of-the-best tank? Use of Merkavas is not logical from advertisment point of view.

Edited by Creator, 24 April 2006 - 11:57 AM.

[Lord_Mordja]

Creator makes some good points. And *lol* at the Abrams, it's true though. I've always hated that tank, so ugly...though I guess it's not made to be good looking....

Have you heard Iran's leader today? He said that "Israel cannot survive in the Middle East" and that "Europe should jettison it's anti-semitism and let the Jews back in."

Actually kind of interesting.

[Paladin58]

Maybe they (Iran) should STFU and stop hating on Jews as well. The Jews were there waaaay before any of the middle eastern nations that we know of today, and yet they are saying in the West Bank " The Jews are encroaching on our homeland", and in Iran, "The Jews should go back to their homeland, Europe". Maybe the Muslims should stop encroaching on the Jewish homeland, and if the Jews did go to their original homeland, that would take up a big chunk of the Middle-East. And, btw, please don't hate on the American MBT, okay?

Edited by Nology5890, 25 April 2006 - 01:11 AM.

[Lord_Mordja]

I'm just the messenger. Just posted it as an update Er and you don't have to act offended because US MBT thing btw.
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ABRAMS SUCKS!

[Paladin58]

You son of a... j/k But I think that the Abrams is freakin' sweet. Even though it was over in 48 hours, how many Abrams tanks were blown up in the first Gulf War? 0. That is awesome for only 48 hours, and its just overall a bad ass tank. So, as I said, please don't burn on the American MBT, okay?

[Creator]

How many Abramses were blown in Chechnya? Zero! Wow! It is great!

Honestly in Gulf War there were only 4 small battles where Abramses were used. The main work in that war had been done by air strikes. Those 4 battles are:
1) Battle under El-Kuwait (26th of February) - americans had lost 10 tanks (5 destroyed, 5 damaged)
2) Battle near Saman base (300km to the east of Bahdad) - americans had lost 68 tanks (not all of them were Abramses)
The last 2 battles were at night near Basra. There is no any reliable data on them.
Information source - unclassified GRU documents. (for those, who don't know: GRU - Russian Main Intelligence Department)

Yeah, Abrams sucks. Nowdays Iraq war is showing us that even rebels armed with stones and molotov cocktails can destroy it.

Edited by Creator, 25 April 2006 - 03:46 PM.

[MSpencer]

There are about six topics about this in the House of Parliament, I suggest you all visit them. It's a forum meant for these kind of discussions.

[Athena]

Second post of the guest deleted.
Stop flaming and watch your mouth.

[Dexter]

Probably guest posting should be switched off. At least i would know, from who i hear such bull****.

[Creator]

There will be B2 Spirit Bombers on it, tomahawk cruise missile, shock and awe tactics. I's also guessing T-72s and Hinds and outdated Soviet shit. Less casualties for the Americans I hope, because less casualties to US mean more casualties to Iran means end of war, period. For all you hypocrite bastards, yes, I choose to side with USA if that'll choke-hold all potential WW3 starters with lunatic leaders, and I mean the Iranian president! Hello! He openly declared hatred against Israel, what can be more 'open' than that. ? LOL! I wanna a Zero Hour mod with Iran on it, LOL!

Damn. Don't you understand that in this case you will get the second 09.11, but this time with nuke or strong disease on board? I'm security specialist and I say that there are thousands ways of making teroristic acts. For example refresh in your memory 3 dark days in USA history when 3 or 5 states were without electricity. It can be repeated easily. Just attach a line burner to electricity socket and turn it on. It will burn some transformers and start chain reaction. Then you can turn out line burner and watch houses in your town staying without electricity one after one. Just a dozen of terrorists (that have appropriate knowlege and education of course) can pull down whole USA into darkness for a long period of time. They can get line burners easily. For example in Russia they are in free sale ("Cobra" line burner costs $390). It is only one method of sabotage. But there are dozens of others. In the case of war USA will feel very bad. It will not fall of course, but irreplaceable material losses are guaranted.

Edited by Creator, 27 April 2006 - 08:29 PM.

[MSpencer]

Right, I think this is another excuse for me to go on a crusade about banning guest posting again.

The Iran conflict is very simple. The United States will absolutely dominate their little country by several orders of magnitude, but will incur heavy losses due to fanatical defensive techniques, suicide bombs, and terrorist strikes abroad. Yes, we'll absolutely devastate their military and conquer their country, but we'll lose more in the long run, including our validity as a peaceloving nation.

[Paladin58]

Man, the US has done some nasty shit when interrogating prisoners, but not as far as that shit in that movie. We would never do that, not even to Osama once we get him. As for our Special Forces like the Navy Seals, they do have a consience, you know. And if we do take the path of evil, then we would get the same shit put on us that was put on Iraq in the 90's. And this is a lecture, so if you have a problem with that, guest, then you can go fuck yourself. Could a guy who can please put up no guest posting?

Edited by Nology5890, 28 April 2006 - 01:23 AM.

[Lord_Mordja]

Ban guest posting for this topic. This guest is an inflamatory idiot.

[HouseGuest]

It's me, and you're not even American, canuck.