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[MSpencer]

The Mexican economy is already on its knees. If we want to stop immigration, we need to pump billions of dollars into the Mexican economy and make them an economic power.

[Komataguri]

The Mexican economy is already on its knees. If we want to stop immigration, we need to pump billions of dollars into the Mexican economy and make them an economic power.

Lets also improve their infrastructure, technological level, and give them the best schools in the world.


Yes...Lets make OTHER nations better than us, then turn ourselves into a proverty ridden wasteland.


What a brilliant anti-immigrant idea.

[MSpencer]

It's not an idea I came up with. I was going off of the idea someone else had who I talked to recently. And yes, it's a good idea. If we improve their economy and get them back up to speed and make them a world player, there's a good chance illegal immigration will stop, the Mexican government will be a lot stronger, the drug trade will be significantly reduced, and some stability will be brought to Central America, so yes, it's a good idea.

[Jeeves]

Its a good idea. It would help make the world a better place, even if it would undermine Komo's lifelong campaign to make America seem like the worlds wanker state.

[Komataguri]

Its a good idea. It would help make the world a better place, even if it would undermine Komo's lifelong campaign to make America seem like the worlds wanker state.

All I'm saying is America has enough problems of its own.


Nearly every public school is overcrowded

public healthcare is horrible and shit.



We don't need to invest money to improve some nation thats nothing but the asshole of the continent to make them better than us just so people won't immigrate to the united states.


you are also ignoring the majority of drug runners, criminals, and gansters who jump the boarder for personal gain

[lefthand]

Poor governing in Mexico is largely to blame for our problem in illegal immigration. A certain demographic in Mexico has been ignored and now the only way they can have a better life is by risking their lives in a country with a better standard of living. True, the USA could pump billions and billions into fixing the problems of another country (like we are doing in Iraq) but Mexico needs to learn how to manage itself; it’s people and government. Until then we need to stop approving of the government, build a wall and put some more security into it.
Mexico’s problems won’t be solved by our money.

[Komataguri]

Poor governing in Mexico is largely to blame for our problem in illegal immigration. A certain demographic in Mexico has been ignored and now the only way they can have a better life is by risking their lives in a country with a better standard of living. True, the USA could pump billions and billions into fixing the problems of another country (like we are doing in Iraq) but Mexico needs to learn how to manage itself; it’s people and government. Until then we need to stop approving of the government, build a wall and put some more security into it.
Mexico’s problems won’t be solved by our money.

The mexican goverment actually puts out phamplets to show how to get across the boarder illegally.


They don't give a fuck.

[Ash]

I think Kal is just trying to take the stand opposite to everyone else for the fun of it.


Since this kind of idiocy and running away from ones problems to take it to another country is the kind of thing he normally would love to bash people for.

For once I agree there. The difference is, Kal, I'd be getting into Canada LEGALLY. How can you even conceive of saying that the illegality of their entrance into the country is a non-argument? If anything, it's the central argument.

[Comrade Kal]

I'm merely stating that there should be no such thing as illegal immigrants unless they are criminals. I don't believe in border controls.

Edited by Comrade Kal, 11 May 2006 - 07:38 PM.

[Paladin58]

You have to think about it this way, though. All the Brits have to do is guard an underground tunnel, (I think, please correct me if I'm wrong) that goes to France, and illegal immigration is stunted. We have to guard a 1,000 mile stretch of land, from Texas, to Southern California, just to stop illegal immigration from one direction. You guys don't have to worry as much as us about immigration. Add to that the threat of 'terrorism' and that makes Americans very worried about what gets in to our country. Me, I would be happy about having immigrants from Mexico and South America up here if they just contributed to society.

[Comrade Kal]

Which of course, an entire race of people does not do. No generalisations there.

[Komataguri]

Which of course, an entire race of people does not do. No generalisations there.

...What the hell are you talking about?

[Comrade Kal]

He said that south american immgirants don't contribute to society.

[Paladin58]

I forgot to add that I was talking about the ILLEGAL immigrants. If they would go through the immigration process, or even get a visa, I'd be cool with more immigrants in the US.

[Comrade Kal]

What i am saying was that anyone should be allowed in as long as they aren't a criminal. Therefore there would be no need for illegal immigration, unless you were a criminal.

[lefthand]

What i am saying was that anyone should be allowed in as long as they aren't a criminal. Therefore there would be no need for illegal immigration, unless you were a criminal.

And the USA does this...all we ask is that you come in legally, register as a citizen and be prcoessed. If you don't then the problem is we don't know who you are or what you are here for. Perhaps some undocumented work...maybe terrorism???
Every responsible nation should conduct in this matter and every responsible citizen should follow such laws.
When people enter this country illegally they are compromising the security of her citizens and thus it is a selfish act.

[Komataguri]

What i am saying was that anyone should be allowed in as long as they aren't a criminal. Therefore there would be no need for illegal immigration, unless you were a criminal.

And the USA does this...all we ask is that you come in legally, register as a citizen and be prcoessed. If you don't then the problem is we don't know who you are or what you are here for. Perhaps some undocumented work...maybe terrorism???
Every responsible nation should conduct in this matter and every responsible citizen should follow such laws.
When people enter this country illegally they are compromising the security of her citizens and thus it is a selfish act.

That kind of common sense is not exactly the kind of thing that Kal dosn't takes kindly. You better taking your blindly obvious sense of mind away from here.

[lefthand]

That kind of common sense is not exactly the kind of thing that Kal dosn't takes kindly. You better taking your blindly obvious sense of mind away from here.

America simply needs a common sense boarder plan which many countries in the developed world have already adopted.
As much as many illegal Mexican immigrants disdain stricter boarder/immigration control they however turn a blindeye to Mexico's own extremely militant. violent and corrupt board policy that puts armed guards on the boarder, walls and no free health care for illegals.

[Hrod89]

What i am saying was that anyone should be allowed in as long as they aren't a criminal. Therefore there would be no need for illegal immigration, unless you were a criminal.

Too bad that it's nearly impossible for a government to function that way and still make progress in it's own country.

[Komataguri]

What i am saying was that anyone should be allowed in as long as they aren't a criminal. Therefore there would be no need for illegal immigration, unless you were a criminal.

Too bad that it's nearly impossible for a government to function that way and still make progress in it's own country.

As I've said before.


Kal lives in a uptopian fantasy world where angels dance in the wildflowers and everyone shits bricks of gold and live in eternal bliss and peace.