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#21 Az3r^

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 03:21 PM

w/e ali open your mind. most of modern day life runs on the media.
TV, Film, Radio, Graphics, The News, Entertainment.. while you play with your balls sat in a suit and tie in a office somewhere il be helping change the future. and leave my mark on the next generation.


LOL, as my chemistry teacher said you can show off to the media studies students in the pub as you know in 2 years time they will be flipping burgers while your earning £25 k.


im 19 and atm my future looks good , as im fucking good at what i do, and £25k per year wont be that brilliant in years to come,
and we'll see ull be on ur mediocre £25k per year and il be world famous ;) tyggkkthnxbye.



More like with your three stars at McDonalds.


dont be so damn ignorant. :p
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 03:38 PM

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Maybe it's some schools in the UK then :p. I'd like to see you try to graduate as a master of Science student after 5 years of studying chemistry here, with that attitude. I can tell you, I deserved the grades I have by understanding the matter, not just by learning facts.

Showing an I-know-facts-but-don't-understand-the-matter-attitude won't really get you far in life. I don't think you'll do well in a job if you have that attitude. If you don't understand what you're doing, then you may just not be working at all. If you want to be a scientist (I don't think you do, though), you will have to understand what you're doing. If you want to be a doctor, same thing. Whatever qualified high job you want that requires an university certificate, you better understand what you're doing else you're not really doing a good job in most cases..

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 03:43 PM

Kal are you even doing AS chemistry or any science or you just doing humanites?
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 03:58 PM

I'm doing Biology and Chemistry as well as English and History.

Biology and Chemistry I no longer need so I don't study for them as much. Two weeks of revision of just learning facts like a parrot got me Bs in both.

We haven't had history exams yet, and in English I got 118/120.

All i'm saying is, there are loads of people in chemistry and biology who just learn it parrot-fashion and get A's, but if you do the same in English or History you get a U. I've seen it, i've seen it with my eyes.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 04:00 PM

Maybe in your school, in the UK. Here it was surely different.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 04:03 PM

Kal what exam board are you doing?
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 05:00 PM

OCR for chemistry. Not sure about the others.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 05:06 PM

I'm doing AQA its the hardest one, as it includes more University level stuff that has been dropped out.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 05:46 PM

Azer come work at sainsburies with me on £5.12/hour. If you do full time thats about £8000/year (then minus the tax after) ;)

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 06:28 PM

Well the grades will count for the same. So unlucky you.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 07:06 PM

You don't study only to graduate and get grades, you study to learn something about subjects you like (even though that might not be all of them you get at secondary school).

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 07:20 PM

Azer come work at sainsburies with me on £5.12/hour. If you do full time thats about £8000/year (then minus the tax after) ;)


LOL yeah man

i earn £5.05 working behind a bar :D but extra 7p selling Crap to idiots woot !
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:00 PM

Not for Biology and Chemistry I won't, what use will they be to study history and politics at uni? Just gives me moe UCAS points.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:03 PM

Most people only do chemistry because they have too, I'm dropping it because I dont want to be a medic or doctor.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:07 PM

I'll probably drop it because it's a worthless total pain in the arse and Biology is easier.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:07 PM

You'll just have to get through it Kal (unless you're allowed to drop it). There's courses you don't like but you need a vague basic understanding of them. I've had courses I didn't like at secondary school. But you'll be glad and happy when you've graduated and it's over.

I personally don't see chemistry as worthless seeing it's about the world you live in. But we're all free to like something or not. What courses do you do like?

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:14 PM

English and History, which I get A's in.

I don't think chemistry really helps people. It doesn't allow us to see the world any better. If you're not going to use it (and almost no-one will) then it's worthless.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:22 PM

Your grade shouldn't really matter, what matters is that you like the course.

I personally didn't like history a lot, but we had a really crappy teacher for most of the years I had history. Though the history of the 20th century has never really interested me much. Times before that I find more interesting. They say you should learn from history yet people don't seem to do so. Curious.

Chemistry just gives a better understanding of why things happen, things from everyday life. It can for example also be of help preventing accidents in households, as you may better know what to do in example the case of a fire (depending on the substance that burns).

But to each their own. I'd like to do research and help the world with a great idea, discovery or invention, by using both chemistry knowledge and computer knowledge (I have IT as a minor course). I don't really see how English or History is going to help the world in a big way. But as long as you like what you're doing.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:28 PM

Too true, I HATED History at GCSE because we did shit subjects. Now we do two of the best things ever (Wars of the Roses - best war ever) and Russian Revolution (most interesting thing ever).

English is pretty poor. The books we do are generally rubbish, apart from shakespeare and the Larkin poetry.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 09:42 PM

War of the Roses? That's an.. interesting name.

I didn't like the Russian Revolution so much, but most of what our teachers did was putting up stupid films I didn't care to see, rather than telling some interesting stories (which I would have prefered over those films and documentaries and whatnot. Part of the time I looked at the screen but just dazed off into my own mind, as that was about as educational as what boring stuff I saw..). We also kinda had a boring book so yeh..

I like some subjects from history, but those I like are usually not overly taught about.

We read some Sharespeare and some poetry (from several people but I don't know who), as well as some books (and a lot of English texts and articles). English is not our main language though, but secondary ;).

We don't have GCSE, but I guess it could be compared to the final exams of 'vmbo' maybe? Not sure. Anyway, good luck with it.




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